1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

the DE situation is pretty damn awful. 

Interesting that the same week Josh Sweat grades as the second best defensive player in football that our fans complain about defensive end.

It's like if we lose a game, the reaction has to be to fire everyone, draft better and sign better free agents. If we play a rookie, there is a demand that he be playing at a pro bowl level right away.

Yup, Wentz had a bad game. He was also playing with four rookies on offense. Do you really think any qb would have looked better? Do you not see that there might be room for improvement?

Driscoll largely handled some of the best pass rushers in the game in his first start, but that's not a positive sign for Oline depth? Reagor had our most explosive play since week on last year and that's not a positive sign? Goedert couldn't be covered. The defense allowed the fewest years in football. But still we have to blow things up and start over because we lost a game? Get a grip.

2 hours ago, greend said:

I disagree. Unless the Eagles win every game all season he will be criticized. In truth wins are what matter not probowl players. But our fan base are a bunch of egotistical know nothings that think they can do a better job than Howie so after every lose everyone on the team will get criticized. The reaction after 1 loss with a busted up team(already) and during sloppy covid times is all the more proof of that I need of my opinion on that.

I take offense at this.  I am the most humble of know nothings who could do a better job than Howie.  

10 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Interesting that the same week Josh Sweat grades as the second best defensive player in football that our fans complain about defensive end.

It's like if we lose a game, the reaction has to be to fire everyone, draft better and sign better free agents. If we play a rookie, there is a demand that he be playing at a pro bowl level right away.

Yup, Wentz had a bad game. He was also playing with four rookies on offense. Do you really think any qb would have looked better? Do you not see that there might be room for improvement?

Driscoll largely handled some of the best pass rushers in the game in his first start, but that's not a positive sign for Oline depth? Reagor had our most explosive play since week on last year and that's not a positive sign? Goedert couldn't be covered. The defense allowed the fewest years in football. But still we have to blow things up and start over because we lost a game? Get a grip.

I’d like to see Sweat do it against an average or better LT, but I’m optimistic. What he needed more than anything was to improve his twitch at the snap. With his athleticism it really made no sense why he was often the slowest guy off the ball, completely negating his speed. 

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So listening to the inside the birds podcast mosher said he gets the feeling that herbig isn’t going to start. Hasn’t been told that just his feeling when he’s talked to some people. I’m guessing it’s either opeta or brown 

Thats good, we can’t have these offensive linemen feeling too comfortable

lets just do a different combination each week, these games don’t matter anyway and Wentz put on some weight just so that he could take these extra hits

So, Dougs excuse for the lack of movement, end arounds, jet sweeps, roll outs, etc is because we were "behind the sticks" too much. 

Therefore, he just chose to drop Wentz straight back all day and let the WFT d-line tee off on him and our makeshift OL.

Makes perfect sense.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

@EagleJoe8 You're missing what color we are on the map. We're not always green

Will add it. Thanks. 

1 minute ago, Parrot Head said:

So, Dougs excuse for the lack of movement, end arounds, jet sweeps, etc is because we were "behind the sticks" too much. 

Therefore, he just chose to drop Wentz straight back all day and let the WFT d line tee off on him and our makeshift OL.

Makes perfect sense.

I didn't really understand his explanation, it sounded like an analytics type response. 

Why can't you roll Wentz out on 1st and 10?

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

@EagleJoe8 You're missing what color we are on the map. We're not always green

I’ll have to remember for next week. It’s not letting me edit right now. 

1 minute ago, Eagle1ne said:

I didn't really understand his explanation, it sounded like an analytics type response. 

Why can't you roll Wentz out on 1st and 10?

Yup this is my point. It's more double speak from Pederson, which is becoming very tiring.

Quite frankly, the offense has lacked creativity and overall effectiveness since Reich left.

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Thats good, we can’t have these offensive linemen feeling too comfortable

lets just do a different combination each week, these games don’t matter anyway and Wentz put on some weight just so that he could take these extra hits

It would be flat out hilarious if Herbig doesn't start, because Doug has said straight out it's his job to hold onto.

You guys really put too much stock into what Doug says publicly. Take it all with a grain of salt. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

It would be flat out hilarious if Herbig doesn't start, because Doug has said straight out it's his job to hold onto.

He looked way better than Seumalo did a few years ago at the beginning of the season. I can't tell if he missed some assignments, but certainly he was fine blocking the guys in front of him in pass protection. There was one run play where he raced to the second level and Kelce got destroyed, but nothing else stood out as really bad.

8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You guys really put too much stock into what Doug says publicly. Take it all with a grain of salt. 

It's kinda like his mouth just vomits words out.

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You guys really put too much stock into what Doug says publicly. Take it all with a grain of salt. 

I'll take it with a grain of salt when he doesn't lose to a bottom 3 NFL team.

This dude acts like he's earned Belichick status. 

Prove that you can design and run a creative, effective offense without Frank Reich and I'll let up.

Until then, it appears that he's a middle of the pack coach whose arrogance doesn't match his recent 3 years results.

1 hour ago, greend said:

So basically what you are saying is no matter how good this team is you still disagree that it's good? Interesting so it's Superbowl win every year or blow up the team?

No... But you can see a good team that can compete and a bad team that stutters in to the play offs...

SF are a good team despite not winning the SB last year. Baltimore are a good team. NO are a very very good team. You don't have to win it but you do have to compete. Stumbling in to the play offs and not going much further isn't necessarily the sign of a good team. Especially with increased numbers making the play offs. 

1 minute ago, Parrot Head said:

I'll take it with a grain of salt when he doesn't lose to a bottom 3 NFL team.

This dude acts like he's earned Belichick status. 

Prove that you can design and run a creative, effective offense without Frank Reich and I'll let up.

Until then, it appears that he's a middle of the pack coach whose arrogance doesn't match his recent 3 years results.

No he doesn't. Since day 1, he's been really bad at dealing with the media. But yet you still seem to get offended by it, 4 years later. I also don't think of arrogance at all when it comes to Doug. I think you're projecting, friend. 

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You guys really put too much stock into what Doug says publicly. Take it all with a grain of salt. 

Me putting stock into what he says isn't the issue.  If I'm Herbig and I'm told by the head coach I have the job, and someone else is in for me that Sunday -- that erodes trust between player and coach.

16 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Interesting that the same week Josh Sweat grades as the second best defensive player in football that our fans complain about defensive end.

It's like if we lose a game, the reaction has to be to fire everyone, draft better and sign better free agents. If we play a rookie, there is a demand that he be playing at a pro bowl level right away.

Yup, Wentz had a bad game. He was also playing with four rookies on offense. Do you really think any qb would have looked better? Do you not see that there might be room for improvement?

Driscoll largely handled some of the best pass rushers in the game in his first start, but that's not a positive sign for Oline depth? Reagor had our most explosive play since week on last year and that's not a positive sign? Goedert couldn't be covered. The defense allowed the fewest years in football. But still we have to blow things up and start over because we lost a game? Get a grip.

I will get a grip when I want to get a grip.  

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Me putting stock into what he says isn't the issue.  If I'm Herbig and I'm told by the head coach I have the job, and someone else is in for me that Sunday -- that erodes trust between player and coach.

You're getting upset at a reporter making up a scenario that hasn't happened. 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

No he doesn't. Since day 1, he's been really bad at dealing with the media. But yet you still seem to get offended by it, 4 years later. I also don't think of arrogance at all when it comes to Doug. I think you're projecting, friend. 

Weird that you're taking my criticism of him so personally, but ok.

He absolutely has taken on a smug personna when addressing injuries, criticism of team performance, etc.

This has nothing to do with me being offended, and everything to do with an average coach getting average results.

The sample size is large enough now to confidently say that he was completely propped up by Reich in 2017.

Yes, they've squeezed in to the playoffs since then, and gotten bounced early. So, I'm sure his rah rah players coach schtick has some effect on the players, but he's no where close to the offensive guru that he's been peddled as.

4 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

I'll take it with a grain of salt when he doesn't lose to a bottom 3 NFL team.

This dude acts like he's earned Belichick status. 

Prove that you can design and run a creative, effective offense without Frank Reich and I'll let up.

Until then, it appears that he's a middle of the pack coach whose arrogance doesn't match his recent 3 years results.

Doug isn't arrogant or impolite.  He is polite and trying to answer questions without saying anything.  He almost never seems upset at questions even when they are critical.  

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

You're getting upset at a reporter making up a scenario that hasn't happened. 

No I'm not -- I said "It would be hilarious if" ... I'm reserving judgment until game time.  I'm quite aware the Philly media is not a reliable source of factual information.

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

No... But you can see a good team that can compete and a bad team that stutters in to the play offs...

SF are a good team despite not winning the SB last year. Baltimore are a good team. NO are a very very good team. You don't have to win it but you do have to compete. Stumbling in to the play offs and not going much further isn't necessarily the sign of a good team. Especially with increased numbers making the play offs. 

SF may be a flash in the pan, you don't really know. Their offense certainly has question marks surrounding it. They'll likely make the playoffs, but you don't know that yet. They also were so bad for a while, they were able to load up on top 10 draft picks.

 Baltimore is one and done in the playoffs every year now it seems. Paper tigers is how I see them. Same with New Orleans. Sure, they're great over the course of 16 games, but they just collapse in the big pressure moments it seems. 

Doug has this team contending for the playoffs every year, even though we have a crappy division, we're still in it every year. The man won it all only 3 years ago, but he's a trash coach now and so arrogant he thinks he's a genius. You guys are bonkers. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Doug isn't arrogant or impolite.  He is polite and trying to answer questions without saying anything.  He almost never seems upset at questions even when they are critical.  

Passive Aggressive people always try to come off as "polite".

3 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Weird that you're taking my criticism of him so personally, but ok.

He absolutely has taken on a smug personna when addressing injuries, criticism of team performance, etc.

This has nothing to do with me being offended, and everything to do with an average coach getting average results.

The sample size is large enough now to confidently say that he was completely propped up by Reich in 2017.

Yes, they've squeezed in to the playoffs since then, and gotten bounced early. So, I'm sure his rah rah players coach schtick has some effect on the players, but he's no where close to the offensive guru that he's been peddled as.

Oh is that so? Reich has done what exactly, since leaving? Losing to the widely regarded worst team in the league last week? 

 

I think the synergy of Doug and Reich was the perfect match, where the sum was far greater than the parts. But let's not act like Reich is some super genius coach either.