Just now, eagle45 said:

If someone were to put some steroids in Lane’s ice cream this whole contract would go away 

#justsaying

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/trying-understand-why-miles-sanders-has-become-afterthought-doug-pederson-eagles-offense

Something else I just don't get -- why in the world they cannot seem to utilize Miles Sanders more.  For a team that has so few playmakers and so many injuries, what gives with this?

Maybe part of it is he has the worst hands in the league now for some reason?  Remember that incredible catch he made last year against Washington for the TD?  I thought he was going to be an even better receiver out of the backfield.  Is it because he seems to lose his feet so often when turning around to look for the ball?  They can't get him the ball in space even a couple of times a game.  It's some of the worst game planning imaginable.  I know we aren't great at screens anymore with so many OL injuries, but you can't run a single screen, ever?  That seems to be the case.

With all of the struggles the QB has had, you would think they would find ways to get their best potential playmaker a few more touches and once in a while maybe get him the ball in space.  I know the guy has had injuries, but he has been healthy more than not this year and the way they use him is insane to me.  Playing Jordan Howard so much over him is also crazy.  I just don't get this at all.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If someone were to put some steroids in Lane’s ice cream this whole contract would go away 

#justsaying

Is that because we assume Howie put a clause in there that voids his contract if he gets suspended for PEDs again? I think he'd get suspended for 2 years

1 minute ago, John_C said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/trying-understand-why-miles-sanders-has-become-afterthought-doug-pederson-eagles-offense

Something else I just don't get -- why in the world they cannot seem to utilize Miles Sanders more.  For a team that has so few playmakers and so many injuries, what gives with this?

Maybe part of it is he has the worst hands in the league now for some reason?  Remember that incredible catch he made last year against Washington for the TD?  I thought he was going to be an even better receiver out of the backfield.  Is it because he seems to lose his feet so often when turning around to look for the ball?  They can't get him the ball in space even a couple of times a game.  It's some of the worst game planning imaginable.  I know we aren't great at screens anymore with so many OL injuries, but you can't run a single screen, ever?  That seems to be the case.

With all of the struggles the QB has had, you would think they would find ways to get their best potential playmaker a few more touches and once in a while maybe get him the ball in space.  I know the guy has had injuries, but he has been healthy more than not this year and the way they use him is insane to me.  Playing Jordan Howard so much over him is also crazy.  I just don't get this at all.

What is there not to get?  There is no reason for it.  This is reason #26 for the head coach to be fired.  

1 minute ago, John_C said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/trying-understand-why-miles-sanders-has-become-afterthought-doug-pederson-eagles-offense

Something else I just don't get -- why in the world they cannot seem to utilize Miles Sanders more.  For a team that has so few playmakers and so many injuries, what gives with this?

This really can not be stated enough.

Eagles are tied for first in yards per carry.

Eagles are 28th in rushing attempts.  

2 minutes ago, John_C said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/trying-understand-why-miles-sanders-has-become-afterthought-doug-pederson-eagles-offense

Something else I just don't get -- why in the world they cannot seem to utilize Miles Sanders more.  For a team that has so few playmakers and so many injuries, what gives with this?

Maybe part of it is he has the worst hands in the league now for some reason?  Remember that incredible catch he made last year against Washington for the TD?  I thought he was going to be an even better receiver out of the backfield.  Is it because he seems to lose his feet so often when turning around to look for the ball?  They can't get him the ball in space even a couple of times a game.  It's some of the worst game planning imaginable.  I know we aren't great at screens anymore with so many OL injuries, but you can't run a single screen, ever?  That seems to be the case.

With all of the struggles the QB has had, you would think they would find ways to get their best potential playmaker a few more touches and once in a while maybe get him the ball in space.  I know the guy has had injuries, but he has been healthy more than not this year and the way they use him is insane to me.  Playing Jordan Howard so much over him is also crazy.  I just don't get this at all.

Yeah it doesn’t make a bunch of sense. Brought up last night his pass protection along with Scott’s has also been pretty bad this year. He's regressed in that area and pass catching. 

that said I’m playing against miles sanders in my fantasy playoffs next week so if they ignore him for one more week i wouldn’t have a problem since they have done so already. Lol 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Did you miss the extend Barnett part ??

I've said that at 10M with this year's performance I would do it too.

 

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

It’s hard for any QB to perform well if he’s getting his brains beat in routinely. Can’t stomach watching Matt Pryor, Jamon Brown, etc... take turns doing s*** jobs. I’d keep both of them until we find more than an adequate replacement.

Have to take the risk of a healthy Mailata/Dillard-Seumalo-Kelce-Brooks-Johnson for 2021.  There isn’t enough talent to backfill yet 

1 minute ago, John_C said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/trying-understand-why-miles-sanders-has-become-afterthought-doug-pederson-eagles-offense

Something else I just don't get -- why in the world they cannot seem to utilize Miles Sanders more.  For a team that has so few playmakers and so many injuries, what gives with this?

Maybe part of it is he has the worst hands in the league now for some reason?  Remember that incredible catch he made last year against Washington for the TD?  I thought he was going to be an even better receiver out of the backfield.  Is it because he seems to lose his feet so often when turning around to look for the ball?  They can't get him the ball in space even a couple of times a game.  It's some of the worst game planning imaginable.  I know we aren't great at screens anymore with so many OL injuries, but you can't run a single screen, ever?  That seems to be the case.

With all of the struggles the QB has had, you would think they would find ways to get their best potential playmaker a few more touches and once in a while maybe get him the ball in space.  I know the guy has had injuries, but he has been healthy more than not this year and the way they use him is insane to me.  Playing Jordan Howard so much over him is also crazy.  I just don't get this at all.

In the beginning of the season Doug said that Sanders was fatigued. I'm starting to wonder if Sanders just can't play that much because he's physically unable to because I don't understand why they don't run the ball with Sanders more

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Have to take the risk of a healthy Mailata/Dillard-Seumalo-Kelce-Brooks-Johnson for 2021.  There isn’t enough talent to backfill yet 

I’m not even sure kelce comes back. I agree with you but if kelce retires i definitely am uncomfortable getting rid of both brooks and Johnson. 

21 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

He has such an axe to grind with Wentz, it's so odd.

Not with Wentz.  With the deluded thought process (of Wentz die-hard fans) that seem to think that benching a QB will ruin his career.  My issues have always been with the few dozen or so fans around here who idolize Wentz.  

The bizarre obsession is beyond logic or reason.  My best guess is that they may not all be Eagles fans...but primarily Wentz fans who started following the team more closely once they drafted Wentz....and some of them likely his fans from college.

That's the only way to rationalize it, imo. 

 

As for Wentz himself, I like him as a person and I think he can rebound from getting benched....if he puts the work in to fix his mechanics and other issues.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

In the beginning of the season Doug said that Sanders was fatigued. I'm starting to wonder if Sanders just can't play that much because he's physically unable to because I don't understand why they don't run the ball with Sanders more

Frankly at this point they are better off not putting extra miles on the tread in a lost season where they aren’t going anywhere. I would actually like to see what Huntley could do with some carries down the stretch. Not a bulk of carries but enough so i know what he is. I liked what i saw from him in limited touches. 

Who in the hell is teaching Wentz mechanics?  That is the first person that needs to go.  It looks like Ace Ventura's throwing motion.   Stand up and try to throw a football like this.  It feels like you're a 5 year old girl who has never thrown a ball in her life.    

22 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

That guy must be an idiot.  They spent a 2nd round pick and a 1st round pick, in the last 2 years on WRs, and they've got a stable full of pass catching RBs, and 2 good TEs.

None of those guys are playing well. But this guy makes it sound as though they haven't even tried.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Any plan that involves cutting/trading Brooks/Lane I'm out on.

People are criticizing the OL all year. Wentz is a mess and Hurts is in year 2. You want to put either guy behind bad OL next year? No thank you. You can gut the entire defense if you want, but there's nothing more important than the QB. Fixing Wentz/Developing Hurts is our #1 priority and that starts with the OL.

Sure, Lane and Brooks, when 100% fit are two of the best at their respective positions.  That's assuming they'll both be fully fit and back to their high level of play, which is no way a guarantee.  Would you trust the both of them will play all 16 games next season at close to the level of play that's expected from them?  Yes, it's very important to protect the QB, but if they commit to who their starters are on the OL and give them the reps they need in TC (and that's the thing is that this season there wasn't really a TC, but this coming season there should be one, probably not as intensive as a normal year, but definitely much more than this past one) then there's a chance for them to build chemistry and continuity.  This year we have guys playing who probably didn't get enough good reps before the season, if at all, and are playing alongside guys they've never played with before.  Even without Lane and Brooks, if they allow for the time and commitment to putting together a cohesive OL I think it would be a better OL than what we've seen this season.

Fact is, some hard decisions are going to have to be made for the betterment of the future of this team and there will be fan favourite casualties. 

Then again, I also think a different O scheme where WRs are schemed open for quick slants/crossing routes and aren't expected to always beat their man 1v1 with slow developing routes run by mostly JAG WRs would also help protect the QB.  Or committing the running game so Ds actually have to respect your play-action. 

 

34 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Good job Kempski — now go through man games lost due to injuries 

Kempski is now just a waste of carbon.

25 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I actually disagree with this.  They tried to help him succeed, they just failed MISERABLY with what they did.

The coaches coddled him instead of forcing him to adopt acceptable mechanics.

They overinvested in TEs and 12 personnel so that he was only comfortable seeing and targeting the middle of the field.

When they did start investing in wideouts for him, they got it embarrassingly wrong.

They spent a first round pick on a LT may never start a game for this team after his debacle last year.

Its not that they intentionally did nothing to help him succeed, it’s that everything they did do was a horrible backfire.

This is a distinction without a difference - the end result is that they did not help Wentz.

4 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Sure, Lane and Brooks, when 100% fit are two of the best at their respective positions.  That's assuming they'll both be fully fit and back to their high level of play, which is no way a guarantee.  Would you trust the both of them will play all 16 games next season at close to the level of play that's expected from them?  Yes, it's very important to protect the QB, but if they commit to who their starters are on the OL and give them the reps they need in TC (and that's the thing is that this season there wasn't really a TC, but this coming season there should be one, probably not as intensive as a normal year, but definitely much more than this past one) then there's a chance for them to build chemistry and continuity.  This year we have guys playing who probably didn't get enough good reps before the season, if at all, and are playing alongside guys they've never played with before.  Even without Lane and Brooks, if they allow for the time and commitment to putting together a cohesive OL I think it would be a better OL than what we've seen this season.

Fact is, some hard decisions are going to have to be made for the betterment of the future of this team and there will be fan favourite casualties. 

Then again, I also think a different O scheme where WRs are schemed open for quick slants/crossing routes and aren't expected to always beat their man 1v1 with slow developing routes run by mostly JAG WRs would also help protect the QB.  Or committing the running game so Ds actually have to respect your play-action. 

 

Nobody on our team stays healthy. Go through the entire Offense, it’s basically everyone.

9 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Who in the hell is teaching Wentz mechanics?  That is the first person that needs to go.  It looks like Ace Ventura's throwing motion.   Stand up and try to throw a football like this.  It feels like you're a 5 year old girl who has never thrown a ball in her life.    

Upper body and hips already opened up while the ball/arm are lagging way behind.  That’s why he’s not even throwing spirals downfield.

In a pitcher, hand lags, in football, hand stays in tighter to the head.

No wonder he can barely control where the ball goes...

2 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Nobody on our team stays healthy. Go through the entire Offense, it’s basically everyone.

For 3 years...

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

That guy must be an idiot.  They spent a 2nd round pick and a 1st round pick, in the last 2 years on WRs, and they've got a stable full of pass catching RBs, and 2 good TEs.

None of those guys are playing well. But this guy makes it sound as though they haven't even tried.

Actually goes back to @eagle45 post to it. They’ve tried and failed miserably at it in nearly every move they’ve made besides sanders and possibly reagor which i don’t think they expected him to miss 5 games early in his career. 

19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I've said that at 10M with this year's performance I would do it too.

 

18 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Not with Wentz.  With the deluded thought process (of Wentz die-hard fans) that seem to think that benching a QB will ruin his career.  My issues have always been with the few dozen or so fans around here who idolize Wentz.  

The bizarre obsession is beyond logic or reason.  My best guess is that they may not all be Eagles fans...but primarily Wentz fans who started following the team more closely once they drafted Wentz....and some of them likely his fans from college.

That's the only way to rationalize it, imo. 

 

As for Wentz himself, I like him as a person and I think he can rebound from getting benched....if he puts the work in to fix his mechanics and other issues.

 

that's some quality projection there...

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Upper body and hips already opened up while the ball/arm are lagging way behind.  That’s why he’s not even throwing spirals downfield.

In a pitcher, hand lags, in football, hand stays in tighter to the head.

No wonder he can barely control where the ball goes...

left foot pointed in the wrong direction too - will restrict his follow through and put strain on the knee/hip. but thats a sample size of one

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Upper body and hips already opened up while the ball/arm are lagging way behind.  That’s why he’s not even throwing spirals downfield.

In a pitcher, hand lags, in football, hand stays in tighter to the head.

No wonder he can barely control where the ball goes...

Hell, I am surprised he doesn't fall over.  It is so freaking awkward.  

He should be on the balls of his feet with a much narrower stance.  I think that is why we see some great passes when he just hits his back foot and fires away.  The inconsistency on the rest of his throws is due to horrible mechanics.  And, yes, that is something that can solved with good coaching as well as his movement in the pocket.