Speaking of Brian Dawkins...

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Give it up.  Your boy @Bacarty2 has been spewing his racism in the blog for the past few hours.  But its pretty telling that you jump to defend him.

I have never read anything I would make me think he is racist.  Don’t remember your handle from the old board, what was your previous handle ??

Brandon Graham is exactly the type of guy you want in your locker room. He's a winner. He's clean off the field. He plays hard every snap.

As long as pay him in the 2-4M range, it's fine. More than that, it's a problem.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Spewing racism? lol. K bud. Tell me why you love the unproven black QB over the pro bowl white guy. 

Well one is broken and needs to be fixed the other is simply just a rookie with 3 starts and no offseason development yet at that. 

That's why Ertz should have been traded last year.

That's why I'd definitely listen to offers on Miles Sanders this offseason.  Our offense will be horrendous in 2021 and no one is going to trade anything for a RB with 1 year left on his deal who is good for 12 healthy starts per year and has never hit 1k rushing.

And that's also why, if contract permits (and it probably doesn't) it's also time to trade Lane.  

If you actually want to get something in return, you can't pull the trigger on these trades when it's obvious someone is cooked.  You have to do it when part of you still wants to keep the guy.  Otherwise, why is someone else going to give you value?

30 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Unless Roseman is relieved of his duties, this franchise is going no where, fast. I can’t believe Lurie is so blind to Roseman’s ineptitude.

 

The main problem isn't Howie...it's Lurie.

I just have this bad feeling Howie isn’t going anywhere like the thought hasn’t even crossed Lurie’s mind.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Brandon Graham is exactly the type of guy you want in your locker room. He's a winner. He's clean off the field. He plays hard every snap.

As long as pay him in the 2-4M range, it's fine. More than that, it's a problem.

Was that a typo?...because Brandon Graham is an $18m cap hit next year.

Our genius GM also used Graham's previous restructure to majorly kick the can down the road with over $22m of fixed dead cap from 2022-2024.

For 2-4m per year, I'd love to have Graham starting at LDE as a vocal team leader indefinitely until his wheels fall off.  Under Howie's terms, Graham is a liability.

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I have never read anything I would make me think he is racist.  Don’t remember your handle from the old board, what was your previous handle ??

Why do you guys even reply to this loser Arsenal79? I blocked him months ago. He is a troll and only tries to get you guys to bite. You walking right into his traps. Treat him like the worthless piece of trash he is and throw him out of the boards by ignoring him. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The main problem isn't Howie...it's Lurie.

The direct problem is Howie, but the main problem is Lurie because allows it.

27 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

NFL athletes aren't the highest quality people.

This is something that people don't realize.  There are quite a few high character guys but the pedestal we have them on has gotten way way too high.  It's half of what caused me to tune me out this year.  Having to hear from these guys and what their thoughts are on everything from Covid to politics to everything in between just completely turned me off from the sport.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Was that a typo?...because Brandon Graham is an $18m cap hit next year.

Our genius GM also used Graham's previous restructure to majorly kick the can down the road with over $22m of fixed dead cap from 2022-2024.

For 2-4m per year, I'd love to have Graham starting at LDE as a vocal team leader indefinitely until his wheels fall off.  Under Howie's terms, Graham is a liability.

Graham's on the team in 2021 for 18M, unless he retires.
In 2022, he's a UDFA. We can get him for whatever price he wants. 4M or less. Otherwise, we should let him walk. 

I'm terrified of the extension we're about to give him. I could easily see Howie give him 10M, which is just...ugh.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Brandon Graham is exactly the type of guy you want in your locker room. He's a winner. He's clean off the field. He plays hard every snap.

As long as pay him in the 2-4M range, it's fine. More than that, it's a problem.

I agree.  If he is willing to restructure, bring him back.  Let him be a William Fuller kind of guy who still produces at a higher age.  If he can be a stout run defender, give us 6-7 sacks a year for the next few years on top of being the great dude he is I'm all for it.

Just now, RLC said:

Graham's on the team in 2021 for 18M, unless he retires.
In 2022, he's a UDFA. We can get him for whatever price he wants. 4M or less. Otherwise, have to let him walk. 

I'm terrified of the extension we're about to give him. I could easily see Howie give him 10M, which is just...ugh.

I don't know exactly how it works, but as you said, he's a FA in 2022.  But I'm pretty sure he still counts 12.3m against OUR cap in 2022 no matter what team he's on, 7.3m in 2023, and 2.4m in 2024.  

He's our own little NFL salary cap version of Bobby Bonilla.

What we give him in 2022 to stay and play would be unrelated to any of the above.  For a few million, he's as good of a short term option as anyone else.

24 minutes ago, downundermike said:

That is a pretty serious assumption.  Could we then assume you are racist because you hate Carson Wentz ??

He never said Carson Wentz is getting all the media attention because he's white.  So the answer to your question is no.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree.  If he is willing to restructure, bring him back.  Let him be a William Fuller kind of guy who still produces at a higher age.  If he can be a stout run defender, give us 6-7 sacks a year for the next few years on top of being the great dude he is I'm all for it.

I think a lot of people are forgetting Graham has one of them long term "Phantom years" contracts. Hes on the books for 3 years after his final playing year. lol. Would be a interesting extension, lol. But 2-4 mill a season like RLC wants wouldn't be even close to possible. Plus I see zero chance he would take that type of deal. 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

I think a lot of people are forgetting Graham has one of them long term "Phantom years" contracts. Hes on the books for 3 years after his final playing year. lol. Would be a interesting extension, lol. But 2-4 mill a season like RLC wants wouldn't be even close to possible. Plus I see zero chance he would take that type of deal. 

Is there a way to turn those phantom years in to real years at a lower cap hit?  Those types of things confuse the heck out of me.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree.  If he is willing to restructure, bring him back.  Let him be a William Fuller kind of guy who still produces at a higher age.  If he can be a stout run defender, give us 6-7 sacks a year for the next few years on top of being the great dude he is I'm all for it.

I don't think there is anything to restructure.  He's old.  He's on the books for 18m next year because they already backloaded his salary into 2021 (and in bizarre loophole guarantees and cap hits that are unfixable and hit after his actual contract expires from 2022-2024).  

It's just a question of how much and how many guaranteed years it'll take to get him signed when he's a 2022 UFA.  If he falls off a cliff in 2021, it'll be easy.  If he plays in 2021 just like 2020, a more competitive team will probably overpay him to be a good starter for 1-2 years.  One thing's for sure, it makes no sense to extend him right now when his value has peaked.  Which is exactly why he'll probably be Howie's one extension this offseason.

17 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

As long as pay him in the 2-4M range, it's fine. More than that, it's a problem.

That's unrealistic.  How many NFL DE's make between $2-$4 million per year, a year after making the Pro-Bowl?   

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Is there a way to turn those phantom years in to real years at a lower cap hit?  Those types of things confuse the heck out of me.

I dont know exactly. They are signing and restructure bonuses which if Im correct are locked in. So if he signs an extension, that money has to at least carry over to the new contract. But again, I dont see him taking a low deal like some want. Age or not, hes still playing at a high level right now. If he dropped off it would be a different story. 

2 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I think a lot of people are forgetting Graham has one of them long term "Phantom years" contracts. Hes on the books for 3 years after his final playing year. lol. Would be a interesting extension, lol. But 2-4 mill a season like RLC wants wouldn't be even close to possible. Plus I see zero chance he would take that type of deal. 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those phantom years are in place because Howie minimized Graham's cap number over the past 3 years, so he just offloaded the hits and money.  Those cap hits are guaranteed and can't be restructured.  Re-signing Graham would be a completely fresh contract exclusive of that, so Graham and his agent aren't going to think of those numbers as part of his new 2022-20?? deal.  

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't know exactly how it works, but as you said, he's a FA in 2022.  But I'm pretty sure he still counts 12.3m against OUR cap in 2022 no matter what team he's on, 7.3m in 2023, and 2.4m in 2024.  

He's our own little NFL salary cap version of Bobby Bonilla.

What we give him in 2022 to stay and play would be unrelated to any of the above.  For a few million, he's as good of a short term option as anyone else.

Not exactly. He count's as 12.3 against the cap in 2022 but then nothing. I don't know why they show the other numbers as they are all voiding but it's saying if he were to be cut in 2023 he'd be 7.3 in dead money, and if he were to be cut in 2024 its 2.4m in dead money. 

Frank Gore is done for the season with a lung injury.  If he decides to retire, first ballot Hall-of-Famer? 

 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Is there a way to turn those phantom years in to real years at a lower cap hit?  Those types of things confuse the heck out of me.

Even if it were possible with a restructure, Graham has no incentive to do so.  That's his money that was offloaded and deferred from earlier years of his contract.  He's not going to play from 2022-2024 for that money.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not exactly. He count's as 12.3 against the cap in 2022 but then nothing. I don't know why they show the other numbers as they are all voiding but it's saying if he were to be cut in 2023 he'd be 7.3 in dead money, and if he were to be cut in 2024 its 2.4m in dead money. 

Well, that's still awful for 2022, but certainly better.  So how do we know the 12.3 number real/fixed for 2022 after his contract expires but the 2023 and 2024 hits are not?