51 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m pretty realistic on the board. I’ve been saying for months this team is no better than an 8-8 team and they lacked young talent. I was one of the few people bashing Carson wentz last year before his stretch run saying he needs to be better. And I still go after him this year because he’s played poorly And he’s been as awful as we’ve seen from him in his career. heck i even called their stretch run last year fools gold cause it was 

However if you think that wide receiver Corp is good, show me 5 teams that are worse than them.... I’ll wait cause it really is the jets As a lock and that’s pretty much it. 

heck I’ll do it for you 

New England— maybe

jets— worse

bills- better

dolphins— better

steelers— better

ravens— better

browns— better

bengals— better 

colts— better

jags— better (yeah chark, westbrook and Conley along with shenault are better)

titans— better 

Texans— even losing Hopkins better with cooks and fuller - cooks and fuller are both injury prone too. Wouldn't trade them straight up.

chiefs— better

raiders— same as they lost williams otherwise they’d be better- not clearly no 

chargers— better

broncos— better before Sutton went down - can't do the better before someone went down they are or they arent

dallas— better

redskins— same even if it’s just mclaurin - disagree would not trade WR corps straight up

giants— better

packers— better 

vikings— better

lions— better pretty close I'd say

bears— same and they only have Miller and robinson - I like Jackson Reagor ward better.

bucs— better 

Falcons— better Jones and not much else. Debatable

saints— better

carolina— better

49ers— better when deebo is healthy and sanu acclimated 

Cardinals— better

seahawks— better 

rams— better 

so maybe 4 teams that are worse or as bad of a corps as the eagles. Interesting they spent 3 draft picks and thought Goodwin was going to be a veteran savior when he’s perpetually hurt and sucked for 2 years.

Carson Wentz has obviously been horrific to start this year. However going into a season saying we’re gonna rely on three rookies in a covid offseason and Jjaw Who needed as much help as them to hit the ground running week one was kind of a dumb idea

I added notes to a few. I realize I tend to be more on the optimistic side but clearly bottom 5 is probably overkill.

This year I expect them to be 15-22 range for WR and 10-15 for skill position.

It was a great WR draft and they grabbed 3. That's exactly how you add young talent. If they were always going to be an 8-8 team not adding more veteran talent is probably the right decision. 

Oline and Wentz were bad week1. Oline improved and Wentz was a little better week 2.

Let's see how the next few weeks look. 

 

1 minute ago, In2football said:

I added notes to a few. I realize I tend to be more on the optimistic side but clearly bottom 5 is probably overkill.

This year I expect them to be 15-22 range for WR and 10-15 for skill position.

It was a great WR draft and they grabbed 3. That's exactly how you add young talent. If they were always going to be an 8-8 team not adding more veteran talent is probably the right decision. 

Oline and Wentz were bad week1. Oline improved and Wentz was a little better week 2.

Let's see how the next few weeks look. 

 

Falcons have Jones and Calvin Ridley. That blows the Eagles to pieces.  

2 minutes ago, In2football said:

I added notes to a few. I realize I tend to be more on the optimistic side but clearly bottom 5 is probably overkill.

This year I expect them to be 15-22 range for WR and 10-15 for skill position.

It was a great WR draft and they grabbed 3. That's exactly how you add young talent. If they were always going to be an 8-8 team not adding more veteran talent is probably the right decision. 

Oline and Wentz were bad week1. Oline improved and Wentz was a little better week 2.

Let's see how the next few weeks look. 

 

You gotta watch some of these receivers more... 

Calvin Ridley > entire eagles WRs Combined

Golladay > entire eagles WRs combined

Terry McLaurin > entire eagles WRs combined

None of those are even close. I’d swap all our guys for one of those in a heart beat. 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again making up narratives I see. Got it. No I said last year at the end of the year it was fools gold that he and the eagles were playing as well as they were. They were playing three of the four worst teams in the NFL and that dallas a game we played an average team he had issues with his mechanics it wasn’t great. But yet again narratives you seemingly make up in your head are truly amazing  

Please tell me how I should be so excited that Alshon Jeffery’s coming back when he hasn’t played in 10 months coming off a major foot injury where he might never be the same. Yup that sounds like a great plan there 

I never said Winston was great. However Jameis Winston has had more success in the NFL then Sam Darnold since coming into the league. And it’s not even close. I would also add, the Jets had Adam gase as their head coach who might be the worst head coach I’ve seen in the last decade. So not only did you have bad quarterback play but also their atrocious head coach. The Bucs might’ve had a bad head coach but not nearly as bad as Adam gase has been in two places. 

I don’t know what his stats looks like.  Again not even the argument. The argument is they would’ve been better off at wide receiver right now and going into the year with having Robby Anderson then going with the plan that they had. but if I were a quarterback and I had Robbie Anderson to throw to instead of JJAW I probably have more confidence making my throws and them being caught then having a guy who’s been a bust since day one

Ok let's keep it simple.

Would you consider a WR core of DeSean Jackson, Alshon Jeffery, Jalen Reagor, Ward among the "worst in the NFL"?

Would Anderson have the same stats he has now playing with Carson Wentz this year?

 

15 minutes ago, In2football said:

I added notes to a few. I realize I tend to be more on the optimistic side but clearly bottom 5 is probably overkill.

This year I expect them to be 15-22 range for WR and 10-15 for skill position.

It was a great WR draft and they grabbed 3. That's exactly how you add young talent. If they were always going to be an 8-8 team not adding more veteran talent is probably the right decision. 

Oline and Wentz were bad week1. Oline improved and Wentz was a little better week 2.

Let's see how the next few weeks look. 

 

First off have you watched Calvin Ridley on the Falcons? He’s leading the league receiving yards so I don’t know how you say it’s Julio Jones and nobody else. Calvin Ridley has been better than Julio Jones this year. He had 239 yards and 4 tds. Heck their third receiver gage has been great. He has 160 yards and a touchdown.  So yes I would take the Falcons over Eagles

Second I would take the Broncos wide receivers over the Eagles wide receivers with Sutton, jeudy and hamler. 

third cooks and fuller are injury prone. Do you want to say they’re not as good fine I will give you that one. I will also give you Washington if you wanted. So now you’re at three the Jets, Texans, and Washington 

Four the lions are better. Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay are better than what the Eagles have. Golladay is a top 15 wr and jones is a good WR at the nfl level. 

that’s fine if you think the Bears are not as good as eagles. Give you that one. So you’re still Eagles are the fifth worst team at wide receiver

 

OT:

Wife got me this today. Now, I am a big fan of heat and spicy foods. Regularly get the hottest wings whatever place offers, did a white chocolate challenge, a Vegas Indian restaurant's inferno naan challenge (successfully), and same restaurant's inferno dhal challenge (unsuccessfully, lol) so I wouldn't be blindly charging into unknown territory. What worries me about this one isn't so much the heat, but the catastrophic onslaught on the GI tract I keep reading about.

Anyone in the blog done the one chip challenge?

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Ok let's keep it simple.

Would you consider a WR core of DeSean Jackson, Alshon Jeffery, Jalen Reagor, Ward among the "worst in the NFL"?

Would Anderson have the same stats he has now playing with Carson Wentz this year?

 

Yes I would consider that a bottom 10 wide receiver unit. Imo bottom 5 cause you can’t trust either desean or alshon. DeSean Jackson doesn’t stay healthy and had to be on a snap count to just make it through games. Alshon Jeffery I have no clue what the F he’s going to be coming off is injury. That’s a major injury you seem to ignore thinking he just hits the ground running like nothing happened at his age and position. And reagor is an unproven first round pick who didn’t even have a full off-season of team activities because of COVID-19. Yes because I don’t know what the hell I’m getting out of those two veterans cause they are injury prone and one coming off a major foot injury. and then I’m relying on a rookie who had only training camp of live action during a pandemic offseason. like you’re living in 2017 with jeffery and desean. It’s 2020 dude

I have no clue but that was never the argument. The argument was would be better off with the plan of having Robby Anderson included in this wide receiving corps than they are right now? And the answer should be yes unless you don’t wanna admit that during the off-season when you said Anderson wasn’t good and he’s proven multiple people wrong so far. Added bonus was cheaper than what you are paying alshon and desean Individually 

 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The Jets have a worse wr situation than the Eagles.  Their own coach said that "anyone with a pulse” needs to be ready to go.

Probably goes to protecting Burnett, as he does have some experience with the Jets. 

7 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Ok let's keep it simple.

Would you consider a WR core of DeSean Jackson, Alshon Jeffery, Jalen Reagor, Ward among the "worst in the NFL"?

Would Anderson have the same stats he has now playing with Carson Wentz this year?

 

Yes

Yes maybe even better. 

1 minute ago, Westbrook#36 said:

OT:

Wife got me this today. Now, I am a big fan of heat and spicy foods. Regularly get the hottest wings whatever place offers, did a white chocolate challenge, a Vegas Indian restaurant's inferno naan challenge (successfully), and same restaurant's inferno dhal challenge (unsuccessfully, lol) so I wouldn't be blindly charging into unknown territory. What worries me about this one isn't so much the heat, but the catastrophic onslaught on the GI tract I keep reading about.

Anyone in the blog done the one chip challenge?

I haven't but Herbig did it last year and survived. 

 

Maybe we have to wait til week 4 for the team to get it together.

Week 1

O line is atrocious

Week 2

O line does great but wentz and defense atrocious 

Week 3

Wentz is great but defense is still atrocious?

Week 4

Everyone finally has their heads out of their arse?

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes I would consider that a bottom 10 wide receiver unit. DeSean Jackson doesn’t stay healthy and had to be on a snap count to just make it through games. Alshon Jeffery I have no clue what the F he’s going to be coming off is injury. That’s a major injury you seem to ignore thinking he just hits the ground running like nothing happened at his age and position. And reagor is an unproven first round pick who didn’t even have a full off-season of team activities because of COVID-19. Yes because I don’t know what the hell I’m getting out of those two veterans cause they are injury prone and one coming off a major foot injury. and then I’m relying on a rookie who had only training camp of live action during a pandemic offseason. like you’re living in 2017 with jeffery and desean. It’s 2020 dude

I have no clue but that was never the argument. The argument was would be better off with the plan of having Robby Anderson included in this wide receiving corps than they are right now? And the answer should be yes unless you don’t wanna admit that during the off-season when you said Anderson wasn’t good and he’s proven multiple people wrong so far. Added bonus was cheaper than what you are paying alshon and desean Individually 

 

Ok, it's simple.  In 14 games we can bookmark this and find out.   If they end up being "bottom ten" then you would be correct.  If they're better than bottom 10, you would be incorrect. 

4 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

Yes

Yes maybe even better. 

A.  Same as above.

B.  You're out of your mind.  Wentz couldn't hit the broadside of a barn during the first two games.  

 

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Falcons have Jones and Calvin Ridley. That blows the Eagles to pieces.  

Exactly. I am not saying Carson Wentz is playing well. He’s not he’s playing like crap. That is not debatable

However anybody who thinks this wide receiving corps is (if you actually watch other football teams) anything but a bottom 10 and I would say bottom five wide receiving course is laughable. Literally I posted all those there’s maybe four teams they have worst wide receivers in the Eagles. The Jets, Texans, Bears, and Washington. Those are the 4 team you can say are worse. the rest of the teams I would take those wide receivers over what the Eagles have

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Exactly. I am not saying Carson Wentz is playing well. He’s not he’s playing like crap. That is not debatable

However anybody who thinks this wide receiving corps is (if you actually watch other football teams) anything but a bottom 10 and I would say bottom five wide receiving course is laughable. Literally I posted all those there’s maybe four teams they have worst wide receivers in the Eagles. The Jets, Texans, Bears, and Washington. Those are the 4 team you can say are worse. the rest of the teams I would take those wide receivers over what the Eagles have

I think I would take the Bears WR corp over Eagles tbh 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Ok, it's simple.  In 14 games we can bookmark this and find out.   If they end up being "bottom ten" then you would be correct.  If they're better than bottom 10, you would be incorrect. 

A.  Same as above.

B.  You're out of your mind.  Wentz couldn't hit the broadside of a barn during the first two games.  

 

They currently bottom 5 unit in the entire league Statistically. Wentz obviously has some responsibility but Then your 5th receiver has 1 catch for -2 yards and 2-3 drops And your 4th best wr has 0 catches for 0 yards thats not good. 

and once again you’re missing the point. The point I made was it was a bad plan by the Philadelphia eagles to enter the season just relying on Alshon Jeffery to return back to form Off that Type of injuryNot that he would even stay healthy cause he never does and he was gonna miss the first 5-6weeks anyways. Rely on 3 rookies in a pandemic offseason. Desean to stay healthy. And that JJAW who wasn’t good last year would just get better when he had a limited offseason due to a pandemic and he needed all the time he could get with the coaching staff on the field.  

23 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

First off have you watched Calvin Ridley on the Falcons? He’s leading the league receiving yards so I don’t know how you say it’s Julio Jones and nobody else. Calvin Ridley has been better than Julio Jones this year. He had 239 yards and 4 tds. Heck their third receiver gage has been great. He has 160 yards and a touchdown.  So yes I would take the Falcons over Eagles

Second I would take the Broncos wide receivers over the Eagles wide receivers with Sutton, jeudy and hamler. 

third cooks and fuller are injury prone. Do you want to say they’re not as good fine I will give you that one. I will also give you Washington if you wanted. So now you’re at three the Jets, Texans, and Washington 

Four the lions are better. Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay are better than what the Eagles have. Golladay is a top 15 wr and jones is a good WR at the nfl level. 

that’s fine if you think the Bears are not as good as eagles. Give you that one. So you’re still Eagles are the fifth worst team at wide receiver

 

Those are simply your opinions as are mine. Again I think 15-22 is a reasonable spot to see this team at with WR this year.

We will see how it plays out

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Falcons have Jones and Calvin Ridley. That blows the Eagles to pieces.  

Yea I missed Ridley fair enough on that one. Probably should have spent a bit more time. 

29 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

You gotta watch some of these receivers more... 

Calvin Ridley > entire eagles WRs Combined

Golladay > entire eagles WRs combined

Terry McLaurin > entire eagles WRs combined

None of those are even close. I’d swap all our guys for one of those in a heart beat. 

In Washington case when that one guy is taken out there is nothing left. It's about the whole unit not one guy. 

5 minutes ago, In2football said:

Those are simply your opinions as are mine. Again I think 15-22 is a reasonable spot to see this team at with WR this year.

We will see how it plays out

it’s not an opinion when literally just said the Falcons wide receiving corps is Julio Jones and no one else. Meanwhile Calvin ridley leading the entire NFL in receiving yards. So how is it just Julio Jones if he’s leading the league in receiving yards?  That’s a false statement. You can’t have a guy leading the NFL in receiving not named Julio Jones and then tell me oh it’s just Julio Jones. Add on Calvin Ridley was one of the best wide receivers in the last 8 games of the year last year. Also Russell gage is top 15 in receiving as well with 160 yards  

Also on Kenny golladay was top 10 receiver last year in the entire nfl. He was 7th in receiving yards and led the entire nfl with 11 receiving tds.

Those are facts. I think people overrate the eagles because it’s their team.  Ridley and golladay would be the best wide receivers on this team currently. And they’re both young

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They currently bottom 5 unit in the entire league Statistically. Wentz obviously has some responsibility but Then your 5th receiver has 1 catch for -2 yards and 2-3 drops And your 4th best wr has 0 catches for 0 yards thats not good. 

and once again you’re missing the point. The point I made was it was a bad plan by the Philadelphia eagles to enter the season just relying on Alshon Jeffery to return back to form Off that Type of injuryNot that he would even stay healthy cause he never does and he was gonna miss the first 5-6weeks anyways. Rely on 3 rookies in a pandemic offseason. Desean to stay healthy. And that JJAW who wasn’t good last year would just get better when he had a limited offseason due to a pandemic and he needed all the time he could get with the coaching staff on the field.  

I don't think anyone thought that the Eagles had the "best WR core" in the league coming into the season.  But most thought (and I agree) that they are in a better position at WR than they were at the end of last season.   They went for a "youth movement" at WR and within the next 2 years or so we will see if it was the "right move".  

2 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Yeah, I guess.  We need the blog's medical expert @HazletonEagle to weigh in on this.  

I weighed in before the team did. When it was reported that he had a UCL sprain of the thumb I said he needs surgery. 

 

Could he play with a splint? Theoretically yes. Theoretically he can even play without a splint. Either way its going to likely result in drops, and fumbles. But theoretically he could probably play and have surgery in the offseason.

So why wouldnt he?

Well, you cant function day to day in life with this injury. You lose grip strength. You cant grip a door knob to turn it and open it. You cant hold a pencil to write. The thumb just gives out with even the slightest weight/stress applied. It is completely unstable. 

A lot of injuries that you see guys just get fixed later are ones that you can still function with. This one isnt that way. Its a surgery every time.

I'd take Anderson over Jackson in a heartbeat right now. I wanted him but not for the money that was getting advertised at the time

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m pretty realistic on the board. I’ve been saying for months this team is no better than an 8-8 team and they lacked young talent. I was one of the few people bashing Carson wentz last year before his stretch run saying he needs to be better. And I still go after him this year because he’s played poorly And he’s been as awful as we’ve seen from him in his career. heck i even called their stretch run last year fools gold cause it was 

However if you think that wide receiver Corp is good, show me 5 teams that are worse than them.... I’ll wait cause it really is the jets As a lock and that’s pretty much it. 

heck I’ll do it for you 

New England— maybe

jets— worse

bills- better

dolphins— better

steelers— better

ravens— better

browns— better

bengals— better 

colts— better

jags— better (yeah chark, westbrook and Conley along with shenault are better)

titans— better 

Texans— even losing Hopkins better with cooks and fuller 

chiefs— better

raiders— same as they lost williams otherwise they’d be better

chargers— better

broncos— better before Sutton went down 

dallas— better

redskins— same even if it’s just mclaurin 

giants— better

packers— better 

vikings— better

lions— better

bears— same and they only have Miller and robinson 

bucs— better 

Falcons— better

saints— better

carolina— better

49ers— better when deebo is healthy and sanu acclimated 

Cardinals— better

seahawks— better 

rams— better 

so maybe 4 teams that are worse or as bad of a corps as the eagles. Interesting they spent 3 draft picks and thought Goodwin was going to be a veteran savior when he’s perpetually hurt and sucked for 2 years.

Carson Wentz has obviously been horrific to start this year. However going into a season saying we’re gonna rely on three rookies in a covid offseason and Jjaw Who needed as much help as them to hit the ground running week one was kind of a dumb idea

This list was just depressing

25 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

OT:

Wife got me this today. Now, I am a big fan of heat and spicy foods. Regularly get the hottest wings whatever place offers, did a white chocolate challenge, a Vegas Indian restaurant's inferno naan challenge (successfully), and same restaurant's inferno dhal challenge (unsuccessfully, lol) so I wouldn't be blindly charging into unknown territory. What worries me about this one isn't so much the heat, but the catastrophic onslaught on the GI tract I keep reading about.

Anyone in the blog done the one chip challenge?

Never heard of it but I love spicy foods

Did a google search of it and people are recording themselves eating it. You going to show us if you can handle it? lol

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

it’s not an opinion when literally just said the Falcons wide receiving corps is Julio Jones and no one else. Meanwhile Calvin ridley leading the entire NFL in receiving yards. So how is it just Julio Jones if he’s leading the league in receiving yards?  That’s a false statement. You can’t have a guy leading the NFL in receiving not named Julio Jones and then tell me oh it’s just Julio Jones. Add on Calvin Ridley was one of the best wide receivers in the last 8 games of the year last year. Also Russell gage is top 15 in receiving as well with 160 yards  

Also on Kenny golladay was top 10 receiver last year in the entire nfl. He was 7th in receiving yards and led the entire nfl with 11 receiving tds.

Those are facts. I think people overrate the eagles because it’s their team.  Ridley and golladay would be the best wide receivers on this team currently. And they’re both young

That's fair on both. You said bottom 5 I am saying 15-20 range for WR.

See how it plays out

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I weighed in before the team did. When it was reported that he had a UCL sprain of the thumb I said he needs surgery. 

 

Could he play with a splint? Theoretically yes. Theoretically he can even play without a splint. Either way its going to likely result in drops, and fumbles. But theoretically he could probably play and have surgery in the offseason.

So why wouldnt he?

Well, you cant function day to day in life with this injury. You lose grip strength. You cant grip a door knob to turn it and open it. You cant hold a pencil to write. The thumb just gives out with even the slightest weight/stress applied. It is completely unstable. 

A lot of injuries that you see guys just get fixed later are ones that you can still function with. This one isnt that way. Its a surgery every time.

So is it a risk to bring him back 2-3 weeks after surgery?  Is there a high risk of "reinjury" or "aggravating" it at that point?

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So is it a risk to bring him back 2-3 weeks after surgery?  Is there a high risk of "reinjury" or "aggravating" it at that point?

Its early. Im not sure the risk is that great. If it happens again its not like he wont be able to walk later in life or anything like that. This can always be repaired. 

Im sure when he does return it will be heavily taped.