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1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think he's been ruled out yet.  They should move Mills back to CB and go with Wallace and McLeod. 

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1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think he's been ruled out yet.  They should move Mills back to CB and go with Epps and McLeod. 

I like the idea of mills back at corner. He’s not great but he’s still better than what you were and are getting with maddox. With parks potentially back use him unless you feel wallace is ready. Have wallace or parks at the 3rd safety. I’d also like if Leblanc sees more snaps than NRC. NRC is not what he was 2 years ago. 

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1 hour ago, wtfcares said:

Facts are they haven’t drafted anyone higher than 3rd round since Jones(3 drafts ago) they haven’t traded for anybody. They’ve only brought in Malik Jackson who is also older. To say that they’ve invested equally in offense and defense over the last 3 years is ridiculous. It’s been mainly focused on Offense while ignoring the D and blaming Schwartz for a bunch of late round/undrafted players sucking. 

All of these guys were at least 3 drafts ago... I dunno how I can make it clearer for you. THEY HAVENT INVESTED IN THE DEFENSE IN 3 YEARS. 

Looks like a real good CB and fair S draft next year.   Possibly a decent DE.   They are not going to spend a real high pick on LB but some value next year in the mid rounds.  I always want to go BPA but you also have to look at the strength of the draft.  Can’t fill all holes in one year but next year they can continue to progress on the D.  Just don’t let Schwartz state which of the picks he prefers. (Also next year is more loaded at RB and WR, so opportunity there too.). 

24 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Stop your nonsense already.  90% of your posts this year blame everyone and everything but Wentz. 

You typically mention Wentz as an afterthought when anyone who has watched football for more than a month can clearly see the guy cannot play the game of football this year.  

 

And yes, I would take Nick Foles over Wentz this year and so would anyone else who isn't a blind, Wentz apologist.

 

Is that good enough for you?

 

Are you saying the 71.2 % who voted in this poll are all Wentz apologists ??

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1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Fits your agenda = credible

doesn't = not credible

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8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Are you saying the 71.2 % who voted in this poll are all Wentz apologists ??

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No just me as clearly i dont bash him in every discussion like he does daily. I only do it some of the time (You know them as the post he ignores cause it puts a dent in his narrative). Meanwhile recognize there’s like 5 other position groups that I’d argue are bottom half of the league and in the case if wr, lb in the bottom 5-7 of the league as well as wentz playing like crap. But according to the Nova Corp, the WRs being bottom five Unit isn’t an issue Based off a Bad offseason planning but it’s only wentz‘s fault  

50 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol and 98-99 percent of yours are strictly bashing wentz followed up with your lame attempt at saying "well I’m still on the wagon though”.  

50 percent of my stuff on here has been about wentz mechanics and footwork being awful and him not being good with his coaches. Other 50 percent is figuring out what else is wrong on this team which you continue and casually ignore.

You are just a dope who makes up narratives cause you change every single discussion into a wentz bashing even if we are talking defense. You find a way. go read what i wrote in the the first three weeks in my good the bad and ugly. I extensively said wentz has issues and playing like crap. additionally I’ve talked about it in here. Heck I’ve even talked about dak, Goff passing him with his play this year and revisiting foles/wentz. So continue to be full of crap

im sorry I’m not a repetitive wentz bash every other post like yourself. Earth to you: there’s more issues than just Carson wentz on this team. you’re the person that keeps thinking it’s the only one. the wide receivers are garbage At the moment, the secondary besides slay and mcleod are garbage, linebackers are garbage and the oline is makeshift. Yet routinely and daily you only discuss Carson wentz like if he was playing well those issues wouldn’t exist. And that receivers only are suffering from wentzitis. Again your ability to just only bash wentz at every turn is amusing when you decided to say someone speaking at 90%. Look in the mirror that’s like 99% of your post and have been  

Please get drunk and go off on a rant about Carson and nick. At least then you have an excuse for your piss poor narratives you bring here and lame "I’m on the wagon still” 

I agree that there are plenty of issues with this team and I've stated there are other issues.  The fact of the matter is that if Wentz were playing better, they would likely be at least 2-1 at this point...maybe even 3-0. 

Can you say the same thing about any other individual player on the team? 

No, you can't because NEWSFLASH TO YOU, YOU MUPPET:  The QB position is the single most important position in all of sports.

That's why any credible sportswriter focuses on the QB position before all other positions when discussing football.  Unfortunately for you, you're not a credible sportswriter.

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Are you saying the 71.2 % who voted in this poll are all Wentz apologists ??

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I'm sure some are.  And of course it's a combination of things but in football, it all starts with the QB and always has.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm sure some are.  And of course it's a combination of things but in football, it all starts with the QB and always has.

Do you think it is impossible for him to get back to being the QB he was in 2017 ??

15 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I agree that there are plenty of issues with this team and I've stated there are other issues.  The fact of the matter is that if Wentz were playing better, they would likely be at least 2-1 at this point...maybe even 3-0. 

Can you say the same thing about any other individual player on the team? 

No, you can't because NEWSFLASH TO YOU, YOU MUPPET:  The QB position is the single most important position in all of sports.

That's why any credible sports writer focuses on the QB position before all other positions when discussing football.  Unfortunately for you, you're not a credible sports writer,

 

 

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Good comeback. And where did i say I’m a credible sportswriter? i do know most people appreciate what i do out in tate then yourself. Or where you come with the bashing points every day and never change it up. 

Yes if the offensive line played better week one maybe we don’t have 4-5 sacks Which helps in a win. Maybe if the defense didn’t give up 3 red zone touchdowns to the worst offensive team in the nfl. Maybe if the secondary And lb didn’t get abused by the rams they might have won that as well. As well as wentz being horrific didn’t help and he was awful. Idk maybe not giving up a 42 yard catch On 3rd and 15  to gio Bernard might help win a game as that gave them a field goal.  

Yet you again casually just like to bash wentz instead ever talking about anything else. it’s not just his crappy performance. When you give up touchdowns on 9-12 red zone trips and have 0 interceptions or turnovers on the year  that’s also an issue. unless you just don’t care to think anything else matters but wentz.   

as for a muppet rather be a muppet then a drunk lush who comes on here whining like a crybaby and then a day later have to apologize to everyone 

I do know i am more knowledgeable And credible then the the guy who continued to tell me desean jackson was and is a better player today than Robby Anderson and only reason he isn’t is wentz. Meanwhile Anderson the last 3 years has been better with crappier QB and offenses built around him. 
 

again you are a drunk lush who come on here solely to bash wentz like a clown. And you won’t admit you are full of crap when you state "I’m still on the wagon”.
 

 

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3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Do you think it is impossible for him to get back to being the QB he was in 2017 ??

I absolutely think he can do it. 

We really don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Maybe they are working with him to incorporate plays (like they did with Foles) to make the offense flow easier for him, etc.  I really think he's playing hurt because he doesn't look like himself at all this year.  Not having a pre-season, limited camp, etc could all play a part as well.

And yes, the defense needs to be much better,  they lost at least 2 starting offensive linemen for the season and half his starting WR core is hurt...that all plays a part. 

All I want to see from him is to make the throws he's capable of.  Of course I want us to win but if we start to see improvement with his mechanics, etc....that will be a step in the right direction. 

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Trevor Williams out? Who on earth is going to play opposite Slay? What a freaking mess. 

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5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Good comeback. And where did i say I’m a credible sportswriter? i do know most people appreciate what i do out in tate then yourself. Or where you come with the bashing points every day and never change it up. 

Yes if the offensive line played better week one maybe we don’t have 4-5 sacks Which helps in a win. Maybe if the defense didn’t give up 3 red zone touchdowns to the worst offensive team in the nfl. Maybe if the secondary And lb didn’t get abused by the rams they might have won that as well. As well as wentz being horrific didn’t help and he was awful.

Yet you again casually just like to bash wentz instead ever talking about anything else. it’s not just his crappy performance. When you give up touchdowns on 9-12 red zone trips and have 0 interceptions or turnovers on the year  that’s also an issue. unless you just don’t care to think anything else matters but wentz.   

as for a muppet rather be a muppet then a drunk lush who comes on here whining like a crybaby and then a day later have to apologize to everyone 

I do know i am more knowledgeable And credible then the the guy who continued to tell me desean jackson was and is a better player today than Robby Anderson and only reason he isn’t is wentz. Meanwhile Anderson the last 3 years has been better with crappier QB and offenses built around him. 
 

again you are a drunk lush who come on here solely to bash wentz like a clown. And you won’t admit you are full of crap when you state "I’m still on the wagon”.
 

 

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Whatever buddy,  You called me a dope so I called you a Muppet.  It's a two way street.

If you want a serious response from me, ask me a question like @downundermike did in his previous post and you'll get a serious response. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

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Whatever buddy,  You called me a dope so I called you a Muppet.  It's a two way street.

If you want a serious response from me, ask me a question like @downundermike did in his previous post and you'll get a serious response. 

I also called you a drunk lush if we are putting it all out there. I said i rather be a Muppet preferably Kermit or fozzy If i had my choice then the crap you pulled and said last year.

 I don’t care for your answers cause they are full of crap. I know you don’t believe half the bs you write cause you came on here drunk multiple times and said what you did. That is where you stand on it. I’m telling you have some balls and not pander to people. At least the ones like Bobby and d-shiznit own their side. Unlike yourself who hops on and off the fence depending on the day and who you are talking too and bash but then throw a backhanded caveat to save yourself 

45 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I like the idea of mills back at corner. He’s not great but he’s still better than what you were and are getting with maddox. With parks potentially back use him unless you feel wallace is ready. Have wallace or parks at the 3rd safety. I’d also like if Leblanc sees more snaps than NRC. NRC is not what he was 2 years ago. 

Mills with more safety help over the top than he’s ever had thanks to Slay might actually be quite good.

With that said, I still like Mills at safety.  He’s only 3 games in.  
 

Id also consider moving Maddox to safety.  He sucks as an outside cb.  Frankly, he sucked in the slot too.  He looked intriguingly good as a rookie playing safety.  Maybe teams just weren’t smart enough to pick on him yet.  

Well time to find something else to do. This place is a hot mess right now. 

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Trevor Williams out? Who on earth is going to play opposite Slay? What a freaking mess. 

Meh, any of their non Slay CBs, with the exception of LeBlanc who Schwartz hates anyway, aren’t much better than the 2nd best cb on most practice squads.  Not sure it really matters who plays.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Mills with more safety help over the top than he’s ever had thanks to Slay might actually be quite good.

With that said, I still like Mills at safety.  He’s only 3 games in.  
 

Id also consider moving Maddox to safety.  He sucks as an outside cb.  Frankly, he sucked in the slot too.  He looked intriguingly good as a rookie playing safety.  Maybe teams just weren’t smart enough to pick on him yet.  

Oh i don’t mind mills at safety. Frankly i knew he’d have growing pains moving to the position  full time this offseason With everything Going on and playing it for the first time extensively playing it in over 4-5 years.

My point was more maddox stinks and mills imo is better suited to play the outside right now then anyone other than slay if you wanted to put your two best corners out on the outside  and try to win

i 100 percent agree with your take on maddox. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I also called you a drunk lush if we are putting it all out there. I said i rather be a Muppet preferably Kermit if fozzy I’d i had my choice then the crap you pulled and said last year.

 I don’t care for your answers cause they are full of crap. I know you don’t believe half the bs you write cause you came on here drunk multiple times and said what you did. That is where you stand on it. I’m telling you have some balls and not pander to people. At least the ones like Bobby and d-shiznit own their side. Unlike yourself who hops on and off the fence depending on the day and who you are talking too 

- I do think Wentz is capable of being a good QB in the NFL.  Elite?  I'm not sure. At this point, if he wants to be elite he needs to be much more consistent. 

- Yes, this team has other issues that need to be dealt with but do they really matter if the QB can't make a throw over 5-10 yards?  Let's fix Wentz first and foremost then focus on fixing other things as well.

- Hindsight is 20/20 and you know what?  I was right 2 years ago when I suggested trading Wentz for a myriad of draft picks and keeping Nick Foles at a much cheaper deal, who is a perfect fit for this offense.  We certainly wouldn't be in cap hell next year and likely would be a much better team right now.  We would have a ton of cheap talent around Foles and likely would have been (and continue to be a perennial Super Bowl contender).

 

Yes, I was right when I said we would be better off trading Wentz for picks and keeping Foles.  So if that's something you didn't like me saying, so what?  I stand by that 100%.

 

That said, I'm an Eagles fan first and foremost so of course I want to figure out a way to make things work with Wentz.  I think Wentz is capable of being a good QB.  Do I think he's elite?  Like I said, I'm not sure.  If he wants to be elite, he really needs to become much more consistent and he needs to turn it around soon.

 

 

6 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

C. Both statements are true. 

34 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

- I do think Wentz is capable of being a good QB in the NFL.  Elite?  I'm not sure. At this point, if he wants to be elite he needs to be much more consistent. 

- Yes, this team has other issues that need to be dealt with but do they really matter if the QB can't make a throw over 5-10 yards?  Let's fix Wentz first and foremost then focus on fixing other things as well.

- Hindsight is 20/20 and you know what?  I was right 2 years ago when I suggested trading Wentz for a myriad of draft picks and keeping Nick Foles at a much cheaper deal, who is a perfect fit for this offense.  We certainly wouldn't be in cap hell next year and likely would be a much better team right now.  We would have a ton of cheap talent around Foles and likely would have been (and continue to be a perennial Super Bowl contender).

 

Yes, I was right when I said we would be better off trading Wentz for picks and keeping Foles.  So if that's something you didn't like me saying, so what?  I stand by that 100%.

 

That said, I'm an Eagles fan first and foremost so of course I want to figure out a way to make things work with Wentz.  I think Wentz is capable of being a good QB.  Do I think he's elite?  Like I said, I'm not sure.  If he wants to be elite, he really needs to become much more consistent and he needs to turn it around soon.

 

 

So we can’t chew gum and walk at the same time? It’s too hard to fix multiple problems at once. We only have to discuss and bash wentz all the time until they correct it? Heavens forbid we can do multiple things and talk about multiple things at once. No in ace’s world it’s wentz 100 percent of the time. Meanwhile the entire team has underperformed as well as wentz leading the way. Is it hard for you to have convos about things other than wentz and still have convos about wentz? It shouldn’t be. There’s more than your undying passion to bash him   To talk about 

 i was right about their crap Plan at WR playing out how it did so far. Or that maddox was not a good outside corner that teams would pick on (and not Good in general). About JJAW being a bust. Or that hollins was a ST player and not good enough to be a productive WR in the league. Or that desean was a bad move and bad contract due to his inability to stay healthy at his age and unreliable. Or the fact this team was nowhere close to being a title contender and likely a 8-8 or below team this year. I can continue. Are we having a contest about things we have been right about? Cause that’s idiotic 

My point wasn’t you were wrong or right about foles. And the book hasn’t been completely written yet. So it’s early to be celebrating that point. It’s more you write things about wentz Last year that showed your true colors about him. Then stick with them don’t pander to others on here. Not what you wrote about foles (however last year i did tell you it was a dumb argument at that point cause foles broke his collarbone so he prove what i had said he also struggled to play 16 game seasons). If you wanted foles then more power to you. There was some good points you and Bobby made. Just like there were good points about wentz at that time were made. I never said I’d have been unhappy if they went that route. I stated then multiple times that they were going to choose wentz so it didn’t matter if people wanted foles. It wasn’t happening. My point Through it all was: it was as much if a risk to go foles has he had yet to play a full 16 games, had injury problems like wentz And when the team began deteriorating around him with injuries in the saints game he began to not looking like he did in the Minnesota, texans and NE game. So it came down to who did you believe when the team began to decline and deteriorate who could elevate everyone else around them to be a title contender? At the moment foles nor wentz have proven that yet. Foles and wentz won in 2017 with the best constructed roster in the nfl. Wentz Won 11 games and foles played amazing In the Minnesota and patriots games. Foles played well down the stretch of the 2018 season and wentz did in 2019. Foles didn’t look good in the postseason In 2019 outside of 3 drives with not nearly as good of a roster (last drive of bears game and first two in saints game) and wentz got knocked out of his 

33 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I also called you a drunk lush if we are putting it all out there. I said i rather be a Muppet preferably Kermit or fozzy If i had my choice then the crap you pulled and said last year.

 I don’t care for your answers cause they are full of crap. I know you don’t believe half the bs you write cause you came on here drunk multiple times and said what you did. That is where you stand on it. I’m telling you have some balls and not pander to people. At least the ones like Bobby and d-shiznit own their side. Unlike yourself who hops on and off the fence depending on the day and who you are talking too and bash but then throw a backhanded caveat to save yourself 

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25 minutes ago, In2football said:

Well time to find something else to do. This place is a hot mess right now. 

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