BTW... 

Congrats @Bacarty2 on your team’s big win today. I’m sure you’re pumped that your team is 4-0. You’ve probably already ordered your Claypool jersey. 

1 hour ago, Westbrook#36 said:

This team has me about as dispassionate about them since 2012 or 2015.

There's too much wrong with the entire organization. Lurie needs to blow it up.

No and Dalton isn't better than Wentz 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

You can view Hightower from a view different lenses.

As a rookie 5th round pick, he’s fine.  He moves well, sometimes gets open, and is still learning.

As part of Howie’s plan to upgrade a horrendous WR corps for 2020, he’s an inexcusable failure.  He represents the second largest investment in a WR to improve things from last years dumpster fire of a WR corps.  And all he’s managed to do this year is look lost and kick the football around more than our punter.  
 

As a possible future solution at WR, it doesn’t matter if he’s a first round pick or a udfa.   We need guys that make plays and get open; there’s no bonus or curve for being a late pick.  And from this lens, he doesn’t look good.  He moves pretty well, but his speed doesn’t look that dangerous, quickness looks unimpressive.  And while he has generated SOME separation deep, he has literally screwed up everything else.  So...by all means...see things through with his development.  But don’t BANK on anything good from Hightower this year, next, or ever based on what he’s shown so far.

I would absolutely start to give Watkins some looks.

Thank you for this.  Kind of the point I was trying to make but my words weren't effective or right.  This is what I think as well.

Just now, greend said:

No and Dalton isn't better than Wentz 

Well opinions are like a-holes and we will just have to agree to disagree.

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I saw him open when Carson overthrew him and when he was in the endzone failing to make a pretty routine catch.  Too many memories of Nelson not being able to find the ball flashing through my head when that happened.  If I wasn't seeing that catch being made in games all over the league I wouldn't be as down on him as I am now.

Patience, grasshopper

guys develop over time

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Maybe I didn't pay close enough attention but I didn't view it as him running free that much.  The drop just adds to why I don't think Hightower is going to amount to much.  I would LOVE to be wrong. 

Not to keep those negative vibes going...

 

Sidney was never going to work here and they gave him every opportunity to do so. Schwartz's crap scheme didn't fit him and it was the same thing with Rasul who's playing well with Carolina. I say the same thing to the people complaining about taking JJAW over Metcalf. I'm convinced that Metcalf wouldn't be half the player he is in Seattle had he been drafted here. He would have gotten hurt or they would have misused him. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

You can view Hightower from a view different lenses.

As a rookie 5th round pick, he’s fine.  He moves well, sometimes gets open, and is still learning.

As part of Howie’s plan to upgrade a horrendous WR corps for 2020, he’s an inexcusable failure.  He represents the second largest investment in a WR to improve things from last years dumpster fire of a WR corps.  And all he’s managed to do this year is look lost and kick the football around more than our punter.  
 

As a possible future solution at WR, it doesn’t matter if he’s a first round pick or a udfa.   We need guys that make plays and get open; there’s no bonus or curve for being a late pick.  And from this lens, he doesn’t look good.  He moves pretty well, but his speed doesn’t look that dangerous, quickness looks unimpressive.  And while he has generated SOME separation deep, he has literally screwed up everything else.  So...by all means...see things through with his development.  But don’t BANK on anything good from Hightower this year, next, or ever based on what he’s shown so far.

I would absolutely start to give Watkins some looks.

Who the hell is viewing him from any other lens than the first?

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Patience, grasshopper

guys develop over time

I know, I'm trying to be patient.  However it's hard to when you see guys all over the league making plays.  I've gotta stop beating the dead horse and just face the reality that the Eagles just suck at evaluating and drafting WR.

Also, I still think the money spent on Hargrave and NRC would have been better if it had gone to Robby Anderson who had another big day for Carolina. 

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Patience, grasshopper

guys develop over time

Some do.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

You can view Hightower from a view different lenses.

As a rookie 5th round pick, he’s fine.  He moves well, sometimes gets open, and is still learning.

As part of Howie’s plan to upgrade a horrendous WR corps for 2020, he’s an inexcusable failure.  He represents the second largest investment in a WR to improve things from last years dumpster fire of a WR corps.  And all he’s managed to do this year is look lost and kick the football around more than our punter.  
 

As a possible future solution at WR, it doesn’t matter if he’s a first round pick or a udfa.   We need guys that make plays and get open; there’s no bonus or curve for being a late pick.  And from this lens, he doesn’t look good.  He moves pretty well, but his speed doesn’t look that dangerous, quickness looks unimpressive.  And while he has generated SOME separation deep, he has literally screwed up everything else.  So...by all means...see things through with his development.  But don’t BANK on anything good from Hightower this year, next, or ever based on what he’s shown so far.

I would absolutely start to give Watkins some looks.

We’re 5 games in. I’m not willing to write the dude off as a bust. And let’s be honest, if he reaches Todd Pinkston level that’s a win. Regardless of how well he plays WR will still be the top priority this offseason. The hope is Hightower or Watkins becomes a quality slot receiver that can also stretch the field. 
 

Either way Fulgham should be a prime example on why you can’t give up on a guy so quickly. Not saying he’s a HOFer but it was cool to see the guy ball out and earn his stripes 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know, I'm trying to be patient.  However it's hard to when you see guys all over the league making plays.  I've gotta stop beating the dead horse and just face the reality that the Eagles just suck at evaluating and drafting WR.

Also, I still think the money spent on Hargrave and NRC would have been better if it had gone to Robby Anderson who had another big day for Carolina. 

The game is set up for gaudy stats. We had a young guy step up big today. Plenty to be patient and optimistic about. 
 

cant go on tilt because you lose a few tough hands

3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Sidney was never going to work here and they gave him every opportunity to do so. Schwartz's crap scheme didn't fit him and it was the same thing with Rasul who's playing well with Carolina. I say the same thing to the people complaining about taking JJAW over Metcalf. I'm convinced that Metcalf wouldn't be half the player he is in Seattle had he been drafted here. He would have gotten hurt or they would have misused him. 

I’ve been saying for a year...and there’s nothing to prove me right here...the DB failures are a coaching problem, while the WR failures are a drafting problem.  
 

Jones and Douglas speak to that.  Our garbage WRs do nothing and no one wants them after we move on.

Fulgham is now our leading receiver.

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

We’re 5 games in. I’m not willing to write the dude off as a bust. And let’s be honest, if he reaches Todd Pinkston level that’s a win. Regardless of how well he plays WR will still be the top priority this offseason. The hope is Hightower or Watkins becomes a quality slot receiver that can also stretch the field. 
 

Either way Fulgham should be a prime example on why you can’t give up on a guy so quickly. Not saying he’s a HOFer but it was cool to see the guy ball out and earn his stripes 

I’m not willing to write the guy off either.  I’m also not willing to count someone who’s upside is considered Todd Pinkston as an asset in our pocket for the future. 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

The game is set up for gaudy stats. We had a young guy step up big today. Plenty to be patient and optimistic about. 
 

cant go on tilt because you lose a few tough hands

Yea, Fulgham was a nice surprise today.  We need to see him build off of it and keep playing at a high level.  I thought last week was a fluke for him but today he showed me a lot.  

What really stood out with Fulgham was the way he attacked the ball with his hands.  It isn't because of the 13 but he had a very OBJ like style to his game.  We haven't had a WR who uses their hands to go get the ball like he did today.  That's the attitude you want in a WR.  

How many hands do we have to lose at WR before we can go on a tilt? We had to watch Chase Claypool go for 4 TDs today.  Tonight is DK vs Justin Jefferson.  The list goes on and on.  I think a tilt is deserved.

17 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Not all are "open" There is a "simple" compound fracture as well that does not break the skin. 

wrong

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’ve been saying for a year...and there’s nothing to prove me right here...the DB failures are a coaching problem, while the WR failures are a drafting problem.  
 

Jones and Douglas speak to that.  Our garbage WRs do nothing and no one wants them after we move on.

Exactly.  You can even look at NRC.  He was considered the top nickel corner in the game last year.  He comes here and he's terrible.  

I’m all for Jim Schwartz getting canned. Time to move in. He got very out coached today 

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Exactly.  You can even look at NRC.  He was considered the top nickel corner in the game last year.  He comes here and he's terrible.  

Also...

Darby went from 2nd place in voting for NFL defensive rookie of the year, to good in his first year here, to horrible after that.

Maddox played well when thrown into the fire as a rookie and regressed every year after.

And then Jones/Douglas.

 

 

Just saw the Dak injury

The record to win the east just got lower

19 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Who the hell is viewing him from any other lens than the first?

Our general manager, for one.

Jim really needs to go. This defense is abysmal against teams that have any talent at all 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m all for Jim Schwartz getting canned. Time to move in. He got very out coached today 

We scored 29 points today.  The 3 that scored 30 won by two or more scores.  You can’t always out score teams, sometimes you gotta play defense.  

Just now, Swoop said:

Jim really needs to go. This defense is abysmal against teams that have any talent at all 

And the game that Claypool was having, you should never call the defense that dictates Nate Gerry has to cover him

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Our general manager, for one.

That's just a step too far. Hightower and Watkins were obvious dart throws. Reagor was the big move; Goodwin was the complementary deep threat. It took Goodwin opting out, a Reagor injury, a DeSean injury, and JJAW continuing to suck for Hightower to see the field.

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m all for Jim Schwartz getting canned. Time to move in. He got very out coached today 

Minnesota confusing Russell Wilson with a young secondary and good pass rush. Imagine that?