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He's a DINO because he doesn't fall exactly in line with all the party rhetoric. Lmao, politics.

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Manchin, like Sinema, became a bit of an attention hooer, but at least he still believes in elections, which is probably more than we can say about who's probably going to replace him.

59 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Manchin held the entire party hostage to get what he wanted on every vote. Then he kept teasing that he would challenge Biden and run as a third party to swing the election for Trump if he didn't get his way. F that guy. I'd rather have a republican in that seat that the dems already know is an automatic no. 

Romney is still alive 

6 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Romney is still alive 

I really like Romney. Wish there were more like him in politics. 

49 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The alternative would have been a 51R - 49D Senate.

Manchin as a moderate/centrist Dem is better than whatever Republican people like mike31mt will nominate IMHO. 

Susan Collins votes with Biden more than Manchin does, so I'm not sure how much that's worth. 

45 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Manchin held the entire party hostage to get what he wanted on every vote. Then he kept teasing that he would challenge Biden and run as a third party to swing the election for Trump if he didn't get his way. F that guy. I'd rather have a republican in that seat that the dems already know is an automatic no. 

Isnt that called democracy?

Look at you attacking our sacred institutions....

What is all of this amazing legislation he held up?  Can you tell me about it?

11 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Susan Collins votes with Biden more than Manchin does, so I'm not sure how much that's worth. 

That's simply false. 

Collins votes with Biden about 2/3 of the time. Manchin is at 88%.

FWIW Dem whipping girl Sinema voted 100% with Biden. 

58 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The alternative would have been a 51R - 49D Senate.

Manchin as a moderate/centrist Dem is better than whatever Republican people like mike31mt will nominate IMHO. 

Im not a Republican, so I have no say in that matter.  I was first registered as a Democrat actually.

In fact my grandpa--a former trooper/sheriff/US marshall--actually helped Manchin get elected governor and knew his father, A James Machin, a fellow italian from a town away. 

Im not a "Republican person" I just don't support the party that abandoned my state for insanity

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11 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

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Biden with two left feet - nailed it! 

15 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

Isnt that called democracy?

Look at you attacking our sacred institutions....

What is all of this amazing legislation he held up?  Can you tell me about it?

Sure. So is voting him out, which if you can recall is how this discussion started. 

15 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

That's simply false. 

Collins votes with Biden about 2/3 of the time. Manchin is at 88%.

FWIW Dem whipping girl Sinema voted 100% with Biden. 

Those numbers are hollow. Sinema and Manchin throw temper tantrums and refuse to vote for Biden's bills until the get everything they want in them. So yeah  once that bill has all of their wishlists included, they vote for it.  Manchin also votes with republicans nearly 40% of the time.

5 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Sure. So is voting him out, which if you can recall is how this discussion started. 

So youd rather have Jim Justice than Joe Manchin?  Why, exactly?

Your argument makes no sense.  Its almost like you'd prefer a productive Congress regardless of whether theyre producing good legislation or not--as long as theyre drafting and signing bills its a good thing.  

I dont agree with that

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So youd rather have Jim Justice than Joe Manchin?  Why, exactly?

Your argument makes no sense.  Its almost like you'd prefer a productive Congress regardless of whether theyre producing good legislation or not--as long as theyre drafting and signing bills its a good thing.  

I dont agree with that

Manchin is trying to use his status in the senate to run for president so he can help Trump get re-elected. Once he's out, he becomes irrelevant. Jim justice just becomes another faceless republican who will vote how McConnel tells him to vote. 

Ideally, the democrats should primary him like the republicans do. 

18 hours ago, OCEaglefan said:

The woman who accused Biden of sexual assault had defected to Russia

 

And this pedo says this just 3 weeks ago.....

 

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Here is the link 

 

 

Just now, Gannan said:

Manchin is trying to use his status in the senate to run for president so he can help Trump get re-elected. Once he's out, he becomes irrelevant. Jim justice just becomes another faceless republican who will vote how McConnel tells him to vote. 

This is conspiracy theorist stuff.  If Manchin runs, it'll be to win for himself, not to hand off to Trump.  

Why would Manchin do that?? What is his motive there?

Manchin would actually be a decent POTUS.  Plus hes italian and from West Virginia. 

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Here is the link 

 

 

Her story was "buried” because, as everyone can now plainly see, she is bat sh!t crazy.

45 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Manchin is trying to use his status in the senate to run for president so he can help Trump get re-elected.

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47 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

This is conspiracy theorist stuff.  If Manchin runs, it'll be to win for himself, not to hand off to Trump.  

Why would Manchin do that?? What is his motive there?

Manchin would actually be a decent POTUS.  Plus hes italian and from West Virginia. 

His motives are always the same, to line his pockets with money from special interests. He'd have no chance of winning. 

9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Manchin is nearly as old as Biden. He's ready to retire and hand it off to his kid IMHO. I see this as little more than floating nonsense to stay relevant.

You like him more than I do. I don't care for self centered grandstanders who show little interest in doing the people's work. Sinema with all her attention Ho'ing is even worse. 

28 minutes ago, Gannan said:

You like him more than I do. I don't care for self centered grandstanders who show little interest in doing the people's work. Sinema with all her attention Ho'ing is even worse. 

You just described at least 80 of the 100 Senators.

36 minutes ago, Gannan said:

You like him more than I do. I don't care for self centered grandstanders who show little interest in doing the people's work. Sinema with all her attention Ho'ing is even worse. 

Your analysis of him is a little off.  Hes from WV and has had to walk a tightrope between his party and anti-Democrat West Virginians.

The actions he has taken arent for Trump's benefit, theyre to appease his constituents.

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