May 16, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, The Norseman said:I was more referring to the blue state lock downs, teacher's unions keeping kids out of school and a too often mandated vaccine that didn't work.But don't get me wrong...masks were useless too.I really don't like getting into stuff on here but I can't read "vaccine that didn't work" and "masks were useless" without calling you a dumb-dumb.This is me calling you a dumb-dumb.Carry on.
May 16, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, The Norseman said:I understand vaccines very well. I can almost guarantee that I've had more than most, if not all on this board due to extensive travel in the developing world for most of my life. When the Flu vaccination targets the wrong strains of influenza and outbreaks become rampant...nobody has any problem saying that year's flu vaccine was not effective. Same thing here, the MRNA vaccines may have worked against the early strains but they were unable to keep up with the pace of mutation. Therefore, near everyone in the country got COVID multiple times and more than a million died from it.If your point is that the vaccine was effective for the early strains, then fine. But it was ineffective at keeping up with a rapidly mutating virus. You don't need to be a scientist to comprehend the obvious.Among vaccinated persons the rate of severe Covid and death were significantly reduced. It did not end up preventing spread as well as hoped, but even so it significantly reduced fatal cases.Second guessing policy decisions made with incomplete information about an evolving public health foe is a fool's errand. Which decisions end up "correct" is a factor of luck, not insight.
May 16, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, The Norseman said:I was more referring to the blue state lock downs, teacher's unions keeping kids out of school and a too often mandated vaccine that didn't work.But don't get me wrong...masks were useless too.All that happened when Trump was president. We had about 15 months of lockdown and social distancing, and 10 of those months were under Trump. Try again.
May 16, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:Among vaccinated persons the rate of severe Covid and death were significantly reduced.It did not end up preventing spread as well as hoped, but even so it significantly reduced fatal cases.Second guessing policy decisions made with incomplete information about an evolving public health foe is a fool's errand. Which decisions end up "correct" is a factor of luck, not insight.Not to mention that said "insight" constantly, conveniently, and rapidly shifted amongst the covid internet cognoscenti - it was a hoax, then the government made it to test it's ability to control everyone, then the government made it to reduce the population, then it was just a bad flu, then nobody was actually dying, then it was an excuse to make everyone take a vaccine (to test the governments ability to control everyone, or to reduce the population, or to implant chips, or to enrich biotech)...ok I'm done.deep breath, zen, lindy booth
May 16, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:Not to mention that said "insight" constantly, conveniently, and rapidly shifted amongst the covid internet cognoscenti - it was a hoax, then the government made it to test it's ability to control everyone, then the government made it to reduce the population, then it was just a bad flu, then nobody was actually dying, then it was an excuse to make everyone take a vaccine (to test the governments ability to control everyone, or to reduce the population, or to implant chips, or to enrich biotech)...ok I'm done.deep breath, zen, lindy boothCovid weighs the same as a duck.
May 16, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, Bill said:What do you guys mean there’s a forest here?All I can see are trees!There is unrest in the forest,There is trouble with the tr...No.Not doing that. Sorry.Sorry!
May 17, 20251 yr 17 hours ago, The Norseman said:I understand vaccines very well. I can almost guarantee that I've had more than most, if not all on this board due to extensive travel in the developing world for most of my life. When the Flu vaccination targets the wrong strains of influenza and outbreaks become rampant...nobody has any problem saying that year's flu vaccine was not effective. Same thing here, the MRNA vaccines may have worked against the early strains but they were unable to keep up with the pace of mutation. Therefore, near everyone in the country got COVID multiple times and more than a million died from it.If your point is that the vaccine was effective for the early strains, then fine. But it was ineffective at keeping up with a rapidly mutating virus. You don't need to be a scientist to comprehend the obvious.I can’t say if you or I had more vaccines, but I was given all the childhood vaccines that kids born in the 60s received. I had the entire round of vaccines when I joined the Army in 81, again in 87 when I joined the Navy, and again when I deployed to the ME in 05. And the VA sticks me with just about any vaccine that is recommended for my age. I agree that the vaccines have a hard time keeping up with the newer strains, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t work at all.
May 17, 20251 yr You have to wonder who was running the auto pen.Leaked audio from a 2023 interview between then-President Joe Biden and Special Counsel Robert Hur surfaced on Friday, revealing significant memory lapses and cognitive challenges. The audio recordings, obtained by Axios, depict Biden struggling to recall key dates, including the year his son Beau died and the year Donald Trump was elected president.
May 17, 20251 yr Wow! So Biden was a complete cognitive mess, but still managed to handle the day to day of our country far better than Trump. That says a lot.
May 17, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, barho said:Wow! So Biden was a complete cognitive mess, but still managed to handle the day to day of our country far better than Trump. That says a lot.He wasn't handling s***, dumb***. That's the point. The point you missed over and over again as you denied the decline ever existed.
May 18, 20251 yr 18 hours ago, lynched1 said:He wasn't handling s***, dumb***. That's the point.The point you missed over and over again as you denied the decline ever existed.My life was far better with Biden in charge.
May 18, 20251 yr On 5/16/2025 at 2:07 PM, JohnSnowsHair said:Among vaccinated persons the rate of severe Covid and death were significantly reduced.It did not end up preventing spread as well as hoped, but even so it significantly reduced fatal cases.Second guessing policy decisions made with incomplete information about an evolving public health foe is a fool's errand. Which decisions end up "correct" is a factor of luck, not insight.literally all you people do
May 18, 20251 yr We all knew he was incapable of being president. Well the ones with eyes and ears anyways. Apparently dems have neither
May 18, 20251 yr 28 minutes ago, It Hurts said:We all knew he was incapable of being president. Well the ones with eyes and ears anyways. Apparently dems have neither
May 18, 20251 yr On 5/16/2025 at 1:57 PM, we_gotta_believe said: You understood the s*** out of them didn't you? 🤣🤣🤣
May 18, 20251 yr CNN — Former President Joe Biden was diagnosed with an "aggressive form” of prostate cancer, according to a statement from his personal office Sunday, and it has spread to his bones."Last week, President Joe Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms. On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone,” the statement said.
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