2 minutes ago, BBE said:

Maybe you should read their history on PSA testing. This is not the dunking you think it is.

What history? Please, indulge me.

I don't get why this is such a thing unless you're not smart enough to know SIMPLY that your risk of getting cancer increases as you age. The treatments that are available to treat cancer in people over age 70 may do more harm than good. It really is up to the patient and the oncology team who do mostly follow the NCCN guidelines, but remember they are just that. Guidelines.

Elevated PSA levels would just be an indicator to perform a manual exam, and if needed, followed by a biopsy anyway. You can have high PSA levels and no cancer. Do you trumpbots really think he was diagnosed years ago and delayed treatment just to keep things quiet? Do you understand how retarded that sounds when you say it out loud?

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Elevated PSA levels would just be an indicator to perform a manual exam, and if needed, followed by a biopsy anyway. You can have high PSA levels and no cancer. Do you trumpbots really think he was diagnosed years ago and delayed treatment just to keep things quiet? Do you understand how retarded that sounds when you say it out loud?

No, I think he was diagnosed years ago and has been under treatment the whole time.

Just now, The Norseman said:

No, I think he was diagnosed years ago and has been under treatment the whole time.

And how do you think they treat prostate cancer?

6 minutes ago, barho said:

What history? Please, indulge me.

Historically, due to the prevalence of false positives, the USPSTF had not recommended PSA screening for any male at any age. They recently in 2018 changed it to a "personal choice" for men from 50 - 69 (may be wrong on the low end of that band).

2 minutes ago, BBE said:

Historically, due to the prevalence of false positives, the USPSTF had not recommended PSA screening for any male at any age. They recently in 2018 changed it to a "personal choice" for men from 50 - 69 (may be wrong on the low end of that band).

Ok but that is to age 69. I said it wasn’t recommended for age 70 and up. Therefore not malpractice

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And how do you think they treat prostate cancer?

depends on the form

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And how do you think they treat prostate cancer?

Prayer and horse medicine.

2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

depends on the form

And in your scenario where he had been diagnosed years ago and had been secretly getting treatment, which form did he have and what were the treatments?

2 minutes ago, barho said:

Ok but that is to age 69. I said it wasn’t recommended for age 70 and up. Therefore not malpractice

PSA wasn't recommended by that task force for any male of any age and "the personal choice" language is not a recommendation. As wgb indicated, PSA testing is not the end all be all of prostate cancer screening.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

And in your scenario where he had been diagnosed years ago and had been secretly getting treatment, which form did he have and what were the treatments?

Unclear based on the information released. But they did say that it was responsive to hormone treatment....which can have various side effects that could explain some of his "moments" over the last four years.

I honestly don't know why you guys are fighting this. In my mind, being under treatment would get Biden off the hook for much of his frailty and cognitive issues.

2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Unclear based on the information released

And yet you think there's enough to prove he had been diagnosed years ago? Mmmkay

sounds like we have some theories, again.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And yet you think there's enough to prove he had been diagnosed years ago? Mmmkay

Dude, he was the VP and then the President. They go through regular medical evaluations far more extensive than the average person does. There is no scenario where he wasn't tested or didn't know that he had stage 4 prostate cancer which had metastasized into his bones prior to the release of that information. His son died of cancer for god's sake, of course he would get regular tests.

7 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Dude, he was the VP and then the President. They go through regular medical evaluations far more extensive than the average person does. There is no scenario where he wasn't tested or didn't know that he had stage 4 prostate cancer which had metastasized into his bones prior to the release of that information. His son died of cancer for god's sake, of course he would get regular tests.

There absolutely is a scenario where elevated PSA levels can be followed up by a rectal exam that doesn't indicate any lesions or enough of an enlargement for a needle biopsy or MRI.

43 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

There absolutely is a scenario where elevated PSA levels can be followed up by a rectal exam that doesn't indicate any lesions or enough of an enlargement for a needle biopsy or MRI.

How many times do you have to get burned by the Biden administration before you learn?

3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

How many times do you have to get burned by the Biden administration before you learn?

Yeah, they really burned us with the best post COVID economy, record stock markets, not being in a trade war with our best allies and trade partners. The trump admin will learn us. JFC man, I try to take you serious and you go on tangents like this. It’s like you’ve taken over for DHF. Great job.

49 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

There absolutely is a scenario where elevated PSA levels can be followed up by a rectal exam that doesn't indicate any lesions or enough of an enlargement for a needle biopsy or MRI.

So if I can falsify my PSA levels somehow... I could finagle my way into an extra rectal exam.

Noted.

11 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

How many times do you have to get burned by the Biden administration before you learn?

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

How many times do you have to get burned by the Biden administration before you learn?

If that's getting burned, my 401k would like the fire back.

12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Awwwwww, Musk taught the anti science moron a new derogatory term. But again, the calendar is not my opinion or anyone’s else’s. A ten month old article is a ten month old article. Getting duped by altered, fake, and out of date news is par for the course for the anti science moron.

I've been calling you lunatics Branch Covidians way back when you were still hugging nuts and not burning Tesla's.

6 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:

you did that

Broke your mind before your body.

Looks like Megyn kept the the receipts.

5 hours ago, The Norseman said:

Dude, he was the VP and then the President. They go through regular medical evaluations far more extensive than the average person does. There is no scenario where he wasn't tested or didn't know that he had stage 4 prostate cancer which had metastasized into his bones prior to the release of that information. His son died of cancer for god's sake, of course he would get regular tests.

Well his son got brain cancer, so I would guess that Joe wouldn't have thought to be worried about an increased cancer risk since he wasn't around burn pits during an OIF deployment like his son was.