4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

AH... so disconnected from the Dallas rumor.   Thanks.

I'm assuming that's what he meant. He kind of murdered that tweet.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

When I saw this picture of Robert Saleh, ‘hard-nosed’ came to mind LOL

He also has a "get back" coach

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Mosher said two teams told him Davion Taylor was undraftable.

Between Mosher and Caplan they didn't find a single team they've talked to who had him graded higher than a 5th rounder and that was only one team. All the others had him as a 6th round grade, and two teams undraftable.

As upset as people were with the Jalen Hurts pick, Davion Taylor was the worst pick of that draft.  You can’t draft a two-year project LB in the third round; even if you’re right and he develops into a player in Year 3 — you have to make a decision to pay him or not basically off of that one year.

 

Caplan is pissed at the Eagles drafting. They're talking about the coaching searches now, I'll summarize when I finish.

44 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

You do realize that Reid and Kelly was over five years ago? Since then the Eagles won a Super Bowl and Howie and Lurie think they are the cat's meow.

 

I think we are running into a situation where Lurie and Howie believe they were the architects of the Championship.  I mean maybe we are heading for the persistent mediocrity Dallas has had since 94 because of Lurie.  Maybe he will bring his son or daughter on board soon to take over.  

If there was ever any question about the whole "tanking" fiasco having repercussions for the Eagles, that's been laid to rest

 

Yes please!

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He also has a "get back" coach

We should hire the 'get back' coach for Lurie and Howie when they get too meddlesome in the Draft room.  Just let the scouts and coaches fight it out.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yes please!

Fine with this 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Yes please!

Give him whatever he wants including personnel control. Sure it's a year too early, but Lurie basically said in his PC that he doesn't expect to win in 2021 anyway.

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think we are running into a situation where Lurie and Howie believe they were the architects of the Championship.  I mean maybe we are heading for the persistent mediocrity Dallas has had since 94 because of Lurie.  Maybe he will bring his son or daughter on board soon to take over.  

I mean many of Howies pickups were big parts of 2017.

19 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Mosher said two teams told him Davion Taylor was undraftable.

Between Mosher and Caplan they didn't find a single team they've talked to who had him graded higher than a 5th rounder and that was only one team. All the others had him as a 6th round grade, and two teams undraftable.

Worst pick in the draft, even worse than Hurts.

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

As upset as people were with the Jalen Hurts pick, Davion Taylor was the worst pick of that draft.  You can’t draft a two-year project LB in the third round; even if you’re right and he develops into a player in Year 3 — you have to make a decision to pay him or not basically off of that one year.

Well, one has to consider how hard it would be to crack the Eagles' cadre of starters at LB.

Someone sell me on Joe Brady. I don't know how I feel about hiring a guy who just turned 31

At least Brady would draft Chase.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Someone sell me on Joe Brady. I don't know how I feel about hiring a guy who just turned 31

He was responsible for the LSU run a year ago not the fraud mascot Orgeron

20 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

The Howie "I have secret knowledge and insight plan" that results in a fireman who was "hockey tough," a DE with stats but no body, a slower than advertised WR who doesn't catch well, etc. I bet they stick with their board after the top rounds and that's why the Eagles do somewhat better there and then the annual "we kill it with UDFAs" probably because this is when the scouts bet to make decision. Pathetic.

I've said this a lot before, that people point to finding gems in mid to late rounds or UDFA.  That's when Howie doesn't know these guys and relies on the scouts draft board and the coaches.  In the higher rounds is where he wants to make a splash and think he's made some genius move.

So people point to picks like Sweat, Big V, Beau Allen, Driscoll in later rounds and think see they're not that bad at drafting.  The issue is when they pick in the first few rounds they don't take the best players, and they often miss out on players that were available that go on to be better than who they took.  Every team experiences this on some level, it's just a lot with the Eagles. 

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yes please!

It might be a tad early, but I’d be happy with it. 

Brady is really young, might not be ready yet, but also might be the only one who’d take our job lol.

44 minutes ago, RLC said:

See, the problem is that you're believing Doug Gottlieb. 

I don’t know this guy, is he not reliable?

3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I mean many of Howies pickups were big parts of 2017.

They were all Howie's pickups unless they were bad in which case they were Doug's pickups.  

1 hour ago, John_C said:

While it may be convenient, it is absolute fantasy to blame Doug Peterson for the disastrous draft record here. 

Hyperbole much? Let's look at AFC teams that won 10+ games, 2016-2019 drafts

Pro bowl bolded. Strike through are non-starter in the top 100 picks.

Tennesse is the best drafting team.

Buffalo:  2016:  Lawson DE #19, Ragland LB #41, Washington DT #80, 2017: White CB #27, Jones WR #37, Dawkins G #63, Milano LB #163; 2018: Allen QB #7, Edmunds LB #16, Phillips DT #96, Teller G #166; 2019: Oliver DT #9, Ford T #38, Singletary RB #74, Knox TE #96

Miami:  2016:  Tunsil T #13, Howard CB #38, Drake RB #73; 2017: Harris LB #22, McMillan LB #54; Tankersley CB #97, Godchaux DT #157; 2018: Fitzpatrick S #11, Gesicki TE #41, Baker LB #73; 2019: Wilkins DT #13, Dieter G #78, Van Ginkel LB #151

Tennessee:  2016:  Conklin T #8, Dodd DE #33, Johnson NT #43, Henry RB #45, Byard S #64; 2017: Davis WR #5, Jackson CB #18, Taylor WR #72, Smith TE #100, Brown LB #155; 2018: Evans LB #22, Landry LB #43; 2019: Simmons DT #19, Brown WR #51, Davis OG #82.

Indianapolis:  2016: Kelly C #18, Green S #57, Clark T #82, Haeg T #155, Blythe C #248; 2017:  Hooker S #15, Wilson CB #46, Basham #80 DE, Mack RB #143, Walker LB #161; 2018: Nelson G 46, Leonard LB #36, Smith G #37, Turay LB #56, Lewis DE #64, Hines RB #104; 2019: Rock Ya-Sin CB #34, Banogu LB #49, Campbell WR #59, Okereke LB #88

Pittsburgh:  2016: Burns CB #25, Davis S #58, Hargrave DT #89; 2017: Watt OLB #30, Smith-Schuster WR #62, Sutton CB #94; Connor RB #105; 2018: Edmunds S #28, Washington WR #60, Rudolph QB #76, Okorafor T #92; 2019: Bush LB #10, Johnson WR #66, Layne CB #83, Snell RB #122

Cleveland:  2016:  Coleman WR #15, Ogbah DE #32, Nassib DE #65, Coleman T #76, Kessler QB #93, Schobert LB #99; 2017: Garrett DE #1, Peppers S #25, Njoke TE #29, Kizer QB #52, Ogunjobi DT #65; 2018: Mayfield QB #1, Ward CB #4, Corbett G #33, Chubb RB #35, Thomas DE #67; 2019: Williams CB #46, Takitaki LB #80; Wilson LB #177 (only one of 17 post 100 picks in four years to start for the Browns).

Baltimore:  2016:  Stanley DT #6, Correa DE #42, Kaufusi DT #70; Lewis T #130, Judon DE #146; 2017: Humphrey CB #16, Bowser LB #47, Wormley DT #74, Williams LB #78, Clark S #186; 2018: Hurst TE #25, Jackson QB #32, Brown T #83, Andrews TE #86, Young LB #122; Bozeman G #215; 2019: Brown WR #25, Ferguson DE #85

Kansas City:  2016:  Jones DT #37, Russell CB #74, Hill WR #165; 2017: Mahomes QB #10, Kpassagon DE #55, Hunt RB #86; 2018: Speaks DE #46, Nnadi DT #75; 2019: Hardman WR #56, Thornhill S #63, Saunders DT #84

 

 

 

 

 

Joe Brady also makes it more likely we get Ja'Marr Chase at #6

I would be fine with Brady he is on my top 5 list.   I would be OK with any of those guys. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

They were all Howie's pickups unless they were bad in which case they were Doug's pickups.  

You really think Doug had any say in bringing in those guys?

He probably doesnt even know what a toss sweep is.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Someone sell me on Joe Brady. I don't know how I feel about hiring a guy who just turned 31

He wouldn’t be my first choice for sure, but maybe Lurie and Howie could ask him to give them plays that scheme guys open.  In exchange, Brady could laugh at them for not picking Justin Jefferson at #21.

I’m still surprised Matt Rhule didn’t make an agreement with him to stay on at CAR for at least two years before interviewing for other teams as a condition of hire 

1 minute ago, Solomon said:

I don’t know this guy, is he not reliable?

I have no idea who he is but some of the first responses in his feed are things along the lines of, "If you said it then it must be the opposite of what you said"  So I'm guessing he must have a reputation for not being correct.  (Or at least some think so).