1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I think Moore would be an interesting hire although former Cowboys kind of make me sick to the stomach. 

 

I know we shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but Moore doesn't even look the part to me.  I could see the DL giving him a swirly on the 1st day of voluntary OTAs.  

23 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

I wasn't just referring to Taylor and a LB when we picked at 103. I'm talking about scouts telling the FO and GM that there may be a better player available at that pick than just a guy who has "potential". It may not happen often but there are still players drafted in rounds 3-4 that start for their teams, at some point in the season. Whether it be C, G OT, WR, Safety or DT. 

After the draft Taylor was thought to go in rounds 5-7 and we drafted him at 103. 

What makes a player a "better pick?" The balance between win now and rebuilding. If you don't think there's anyone who'll make a significant difference this year (i.e. will be better as a rookie, especially in a season without mini-camps and exhibition games, than the 2nd year players on your roster), then draft for potential. So it's not about "overriding" your scouts, it's about taking the information given you from your scouts and making the best decision given multiple goals.

 

40 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You think Howie ignored his scouts to take Taylor? Why? Whatever LB he takes after #100 is going to be a ST guy as a rookie, so it's not a win now choice. You make "win now" decisions in the first and second rounds, once you get past pick 100, it's all about potential, since few of these players get significant PT as rookies.

More likely, Eagle scouts rated him higher than other teams with regard to long-term potential, because you take Taylor for the player he'll be in year 3, same as Sweat at #130, who they knew would take two years to bulk up and get past his knee injury.

This reasoning is akin to being alone on an island full of sheep and then selecting the ugliest sheep to bed.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Still Amazing Moore did more with the Cowboys then Doug did with the Eagles. 

 

I think multiple people on this blog would have done more with the Eagles than Doug did this year.  

10 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Lurie won't hold Stoutland to his contract if he really wants to "retire" to Alabama (he's 59 in February).

But Stoutland may also just want a landing spot if he doesn't mesh with the new HC.

I doubt money matters at all, Lurie has no problem paying assistant coaches top dollar.

Or maybe Stoutland has had his fill of Howie.

44 minutes ago, austinfan said:

College coaches from big programs are shocked to find out they can't recruit players in the NFL, and that there's a salary cap.

Thanks.  I'm well aware of the challenges college coaches face when making the transition to the NFL.  They are probably aware that the don't recruit in the NFL (just a guess).

Many college coaches believe in their own "system" and find out that they can't just out-coach other teams and have their guys more prepared to "execute their system better than it can be defended."  This is the real challenge many of them have.  Spurrier was an example.  Our best example was the Visored idiot, who grasped on to concepts that are easily and quickly disproven in the NFL (for example, that you can coach a team to have "every possible answer for anything that happens on a given play" and have a 7 play playbook, because it is really "all about execution").  It's too bad that he had a "fixed mindset" and not a "growth mindset" and that he had no emotional intelligence. (Side note: emotional intelligence no longer top requirement for HC... it still makes the top 5-6 I think.  Whatever Lurie read about this year will be more important this time around.)

The best coaches in the world are extremely knowledgeable of multiple systems and can determine how to get the best out of a given set of players.  They determine how to utilize and maximize a players (and teams) strengths.  Belicheat is the quintessential example.  You want a coach that takes what he is given and makes the most out of it.  The opposite is the coach that says "I need WRs who can block / I need lineman whose knees are at least 13" around / I need corners who are at least 6' tall / I need a QB who can run the zone read / etc. etc.  A system coach will always have limited success in the NFL.  This is why I am automatically wary of almost any college coach.

There are exceptions.  I believe Urban Meyer is an exception.  He is a leader, knowledgable, adaptable and will determine how to maximize his players to win... implementing and changing whatever systems work best.  I think he will be very successful in Jacksonville.  We will see.

 

Carroll has been an exception, but he had 15 years of NFL experience before his USC tenure. So he understood the difference between the college and pro game.

8 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

This reasoning is akin to being alone on an island full of sheep and then selecting the ugliest sheep to bed.

And hiring a good plastic surgeon.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

And hiring a good plastic surgeon.

For you or the sheep?

5 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Or maybe Stoutland has had his fill of Howie.

Doubtful, if Howie kept Stoutland after Chip was fired, it's unlikely they have a bad relationship, Stoutland lobbied for Mailata and Howie traded up to get him, for example.

Just now, Desertbirds said:

For you or the sheep?

I'm hopeless, the sheep has potential.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

A wide net is always nice in theory, but if the Eagles end up hiring a head coach who had zero interest from any other NFL franchise I’m not sure it would inspire a lot of confidence anywhere.  "smartest people in the room”, and all that 

 

 

I see Afan is in total Eagles/Howie spin mode right now. And, I’m out.

36 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Actually, I am.  But I don’t have a lot of tolerance for people who have said they would "root for the Steelers” and then don’t know how to spell an Eagles legend’s name correctly.   

I'll bet you are  - and we all know you have little tolerance for anything but your own opinions, you have made that abundantly clear over the years. 

I will root For Wentz where ever he goes, with a few exceptions, (Cowboys, Saints, Giants, WFT). Anywhere else he goes, I will root for him. You may choose to root as you wish. 

 

 

Just now, Blazehound said:

I see Afan is in total Eagles/Howie spin mode right now. And, I’m out.

Afan is Dave Spadaro....

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

I'm not sure why but something about Mayo intrigues me and thinks he could be a huge success.  

1 minute ago, Blazehound said:

I see Afan is in total Eagles/Howie spin mode right now. And, I’m out.

Years ago when people said AFAN, I thought they were talking about Afansincebirth   he had the Hans solo AVi. It was just maybe 2 years ago, I figured out it was Austin.   

Hoping Lincoln Riley is just holding out for more money. 

16 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

A wide net is always nice in theory, but if the Eagles end up hiring a head coach who had zero interest from any other NFL franchise I’m not sure it would inspire a lot of confidence anywhere.  "smartest people in the room”, and all that 

It's all for show. 

Eagles are buying time till they can interview candidates from playoffs teams. In this case which they failed to do in 2016 they are interviewing all possibilities now so if their top choices do not accept the job, they can hire from the list they already interviewed quickly. 

We saw in 2016 Eagles did the opposite and didnt start interviewing till they could get top candidates and then went to the lower candidates they could have interview weeks before. Result? We landed our 5th/6th choice. 

I actually like them going backwards, interviewing  less likely candidates now but making a list in order which of them they like if a top choice cant be had. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sure why but something about Mayo intrigues me and thinks he could be a huge success.  

Guy with 0 HC experience and barley any Experience at all? Nah I’ll pass. Unless he wants the DC job. 

4 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Guy with 0 HC experience and barley any Experience at all? Nah I’ll pass. Unless he wants the DC job. 

I don't have reasoning to back it up, just a feeling.  I'll throw out there the AR was just a QB coach when he was hired here....granted he had over a decade of coaching experience.

I think Mayo would be a great DC signing too but I don't want the Eagles building a staff again before they hire a coach.  I HOPE they don't go that route again.  Hire your man, let him build the staff he wants.

2 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

It's all for show. 

Eagles are buying time till they can interview candidates from playoffs teams. In this case which they failed to do in 2016 they are interviewing all possibilities now so if their top choices do not accept the job, they can hire from the list they already interviewed quickly. 

We saw in 2016 Eagles did the opposite and didnt start interviewing till they could get top candidates and then went to the lower candidates they could have interview weeks before. Result? We landed our 5th/6th choice. 

I actually like them going backwards, interviewing  less likely candidates but making a list in order which of them they like if a top choice cant be had. 

I think bringing in as many candidates as possible is wise this year. It is about picking brains and hearing solutions and ideas. It is all about building connections and fact finding. Plus, they are picking for 3 primary positions OC, DC, HC so the more the merrier. The person may not be ready yet, but he may drop a name or two that would not have otherwise been considered.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

hopefully Stout just wants a raise and contract exrension

Or he wants out of a dysfunctional organization.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I suspect you have already rooted for the black and yellow in the past.  I mean you’ve already met the baseline spelling requirements to be a Yinzer.  Admit it, you’re a Sidney Crosbie fan too, aren’t ya?  

The funniest thing about this, dont you live in like Western PA?  Aren't you from the area where those who say Youins actually live? I seem to recall you do.