5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So the players available this offseason could have played for us in 2018, 2019 and 2020.

Great, we'll add a Wr in 2021 and go 8-8. Whoopie do.

or if we didn't have an incompetent running the show, we might actually have some talent on the roster that a player could be added to, to make a difference.  But, hey, Howie is perfect and has never made a bad move in his life according to your defense... oh, I'm sorry, you have conceded the Alshon restructure, though you seem like you might be backpedaling from that now.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. 

You could legitimately get ANY coach you want to coach Lawrence. If he hits, he's getting a HC job.

And you pick Scott Linehan? I like Linehan more than most, but man that's a 2010 hire. Go get Jim Caldwell man. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No just pointing out howie, how idiotic your decisions were with old declining injury prone wide receivers were for those 2018-2020 roster. WHOOOPPPIE FOR THOSE MOVES. Way to go Dave ! 

I never liked the Jeffrey move. Jeffrey to me had already become a #2 WR by 2017 and would never be the same player he was in 2013-14. Solid but not worth paying big money.

DeSean is different, you know he'll get dinged, but when healthy he's still the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL. If you want to get back to the SB, he's the kind of gamble you have to take and keep your fingers crossed. We saw when he was on the field what a huge difference maker it was for an offense full of receivers who run underneath routes.

Teams that win SBs tend to be both good and lucky. Eagles were good and unlucky, then they were just unlucky.

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

I don't know what to believe. I saw Jeffery replace Fulgham, so sure it's possible that Doug wanted Reagor based on that dumb decision. But, I also could see Howie throwing others under the bus for his picks. So, who knows.

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

you want to be really upset about our cap situation go look at the wide receivers that are going to be available in the free-agent market this off-season. If we actually had cap space to spend there’s like two or three that would be massive upgrades and worth the money you were going to pay them. Meanwhile we were like lets just restructure Alshon Jeffery and trade for an old injury prone DeSean Jackson 

The amount of bad crap Howie has done here the last few years is mind boggling 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Eww. Pass.

His plan to "fix" Ryan Tannehill was the play action passing game. That's it. Mike Vrabel has had as much to do with that as anyone.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Howie has his finger on the trigger, sorry but he should have trusted the scouts and went Jefferson. He takes the blame.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Fun story... Justin Jefferson ran a 4.43 at the combine.  Reagor ran a disappointing 4.47... then miraculously had a better time at the Pro Day that no one could attend.

 

But, who are the sources PFF is referencing that says it was Doug?  I don't know, I don't care.  I'm still pissed about missing Jefferson... and I don't care who is ultimately responsible, they've all made enough mistakes to warrant a clean house.  But Lurie won't fire his "son".

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

or if we didn't have an incompetent running the show, we might actually have some talent on the roster that a player could be added to, to make a difference.  But, hey, Howie is perfect and has never made a bad move in his life according to your defense... oh, I'm sorry, you have conceded the Alshon restructure, though you seem like you might be backpedaling from that now.

We weren't taking Metcalf due to injury concerns, and most of the NFL agreed. That wasn't talent evaluation, that was a medical gamble.

Jefferson over Reagor would not have moved the needle this year unless he could pass block as well as catch.

Chinn over Hurts would have meant Wentz starting 16 games and probably getting hurt with the punishment he was taking, so Chinn is so good he'd play both FS and CB and turn the defense into a top ten unit?

Even if Jefferson and Chinn worked out and we won 8 games, great, we lose in the first round and pick 19th. Wonderful.

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I never liked the Jeffrey move. Jeffrey to me had already become a #2 WR by 2017 and would never be the same player he was in 2013-14. Solid but not worth paying big money.

DeSean is different, you know he'll get dinged, but when healthy he's still the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL. If you want to get back to the SB, he's the kind of gamble you have to take and keep your fingers crossed. We saw when he was on the field what a huge difference maker it was for an offense full of receivers who run underneath routes.

Teams that win SBs tend to be both good and lucky. Eagles were good and unlucky, then they were just unlucky.

Naw the desean move was dumb then. Especially when they redid his contract as part of the trade especially when John brown and Robby Anderson were also available FA or trade. A lot of us on here knew DeSean was breaking down and couldn’t stay healthy. Much rather spent the picks to get Anderson considering we wasted picks on older declining players anyway  

That’s not being unlucky Dave that’s not realizing a 33 year old with a track record over the previous 3 season of missing games would continue to break down and likely miss more games. I don’t care what he did when he was out there the problem is he was always going to be iffy week to week with availability  i could secured a guy who did the same thing in Anderson who’s missed only one game in 3 years, younger and worth the money  

thanks again for that take Dave spindaro about how it’s just unlucky when the signs were all there. Wow you are delusional 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I believe Arthur smith’s dad is a minor owner of the Washington football team. 

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

His plan to "fix" Ryan Tannehill was the play action passing game. That's it. Mike Vrabel has had as much to do with that as anyone.

The Titans scheme is really good! Titans had a top 3 offense this year. 

My concerns with Arthur Smith
- Only been with the Titans
- Titans' personnel is so unique (Henry and Brown are freaks) that I'm not sure how it would fit here. 

Arthur Smith would be disappointing for me.

Anderson wasn't available until the next season.

The John Brown who caught 38% and 43% of his throws in Arizona and Baltimore before he went to Buffalo? Then got injured his second season in Buffalo.

8 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Eww. Pass.

His plan to "fix" Ryan Tannehill was the play action passing game. That's it. Mike Vrabel has had as much to do with that as anyone.

How so? Did Vrabel design the passing game?

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Fun story... Justin Jefferson ran a 4.43 at the combine.  Reagor ran a disappointing 4.47... then miraculously had a better time at the Pro Day that no one could attend.

 

But, who are the sources PFF is referencing that says it was Doug?  I don't know, I don't care.  I'm still pissed about missing Jefferson... and I don't care who is ultimately responsible, they've all made enough mistakes to warrant a clean house.  But Lurie won't fire his "son".

We have GPS tracking from college that showed Reagor was much faster than Jefferson. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

The Titans scheme is really good! Titans had a top 3 offense this year. 

My concerns with Arthur Smith
- Only been with the Titans
- Titans' personnel is so unique (Henry and Brown are freaks) that I'm not sure how it would fit here. 

Arthur Smith would be disappointing for me.

The Titans offense is really good. I don't have a problem with it at all. I just don't think there's anything about it that is Smith's doing. And I'm not sure we have a Derrick Henry to make it work (or AJ Brown). So I agree with you there for sure. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

How so? Did Vrabel design the passing game?

Their passing game is all play action. There is no drop back passing game. It's all predicated on teams over-committing to the run and sneaking AJ Brown behind the linebackers.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I never liked the Jeffrey move. Jeffrey to me had already become a #2 WR by 2017 and would never be the same player he was in 2013-14. Solid but not worth paying big money.

DeSean is different, you know he'll get dinged, but when healthy he's still the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL. If you want to get back to the SB, he's the kind of gamble you have to take and keep your fingers crossed. We saw when he was on the field what a huge difference maker it was for an offense full of receivers who run underneath routes.

Teams that win SBs tend to be both good and lucky. Eagles were good and unlucky, then they were just unlucky.

Yep.  Trade for a guy at age 32, fully expecting that he'll get injured and then pay market value, even though he's under contract and you can get out from under that deal whenever you want, if you don't resign him.  Wait... I thought Howie hoarded draft picks?  Yet, here he trades a draft pick for a guy that was likely getting cut if Howie just held his water.   AND then he pays market value, as if he had been cut and he had to outbid other teams.   Stupid decisions.

Could have signed John Brown for the same price, and actually gotten production.  

 

11 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Howie has his finger on the trigger, sorry but he should have trusted the scouts and went Jefferson. He takes the blame.

The buck is supposed to stop with the guy in charge... Howie just passes the buck to whomever is closest.

Though I've sad maybe a month ago, the only way you're going to fix Carson Wentz is to commit to the running game. Make his job easier. Like Tannehill's is. Like Mayfield. Like Garappolo last year. It's become clear that Lowie is committed to Wentz. Regardless of what they've said. So I could see them following this plan and hiring Smith.

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Anderson wasn't available until the next season.

The John Brown who caught 38% and 43% of his throws in Arizona and Baltimore before he went to Buffalo? Then got injured his second season in Buffalo.

They try to trade for Robby Anderson two consecutive years. And if they weren’t paying DeSean Jackson which was a stupid move to begin with they could’ve signed Robby Anderson in FA to a much better contract than what they gave DeSean Jackson. Again great spin job by you. There’s proof they try to get Robbie Anderson and didn’t wanna pay the price but managed to overpay DeSean Jackson with his contract and then prior decided you know what we should trade for golden Tate instead even though we already had a slot receiver and that’s a Golden Tate was at this time of his career. Way to spin that Dave spindaro

And just pointing out John Brown when Joe Flacco was the quarterback was on pace to put up a over 1000 yard season and then they went to Lamar Jackson and his numbers dropped considerably because Lamar Jackson can’t throw. Yes he got hurt this year but there was less of a chance John Brown would break down at 29 years old then DeSean Jackson at 34. Another great spin job Dave spindaro 

 

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Fun story... Justin Jefferson ran a 4.43 at the combine.  Reagor ran a disappointing 4.47... then miraculously had a better time at the Pro Day that no one could attend.

 

But, who are the sources PFF is referencing that says it was Doug?  I don't know, I don't care.  I'm still pissed about missing Jefferson... and I don't care who is ultimately responsible, they've all made enough mistakes to warrant a clean house.  But Lurie won't fire his "son".

Reagor bulked up for the combine, then took off 5 lbs for his pro day, consensus is he's more explosive on film than Jefferson, Jefferson the more polished route runner.

40 times for WRs are a bit misleading in most cases except extremes, run a 4.3 and you're fast, run a 4.6 and you'd better have great routes and hands.

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

The Titans scheme is really good! Titans had a top 3 offense this year. 

My concerns with Arthur Smith
- Only been with the Titans
- Titans' personnel is so unique (Henry and Brown are freaks) that I'm not sure how it would fit here. 

Arthur Smith would be disappointing for me.

I like him. No more wco and a real interest in the run/play action

47 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’m going to predict KC vs BAL, and GB vs NO in the conference championship games 

I'm switch BAL for BUF. Lamar is going to have a long day in the elements. 

I doubt anyone in the NFL would have taken Brown over DeSean, both are fast, slight WRs but Brown was really inconsistent with a very low catch rate.

The fact that in hindsight he played much better in Buffalo before, surprise, he got injured, doesn't change the expectation - hindsight is always 20/20.