5 hours ago, [TSM]_PimpDaddyPain said:

Bad analogy since people using alternative treatment live way longer. 

Well then that explains why he manages to stick around for so long 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Absolutely! Nobody can come away from that press conference feeling good other than the weasel.

I did.

12 minutes ago, Infam said:

I did.

Seriously? Please do explain why?

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Seriously? Please do explain why?

I think this is all the truth. I think he really let us look into his thought process. And yes, that's really all this is: a process. And one that is data driven for us. They all worked together on this one, and besides this BS "all is bad with the Eagles" attitude all around here, we DO have a really good structure. And I DO believe Mr. Roseman will do a good job for us moving forward.

So what if it IS true that Lurie wanted a rebuild, and Pederson wanted another all-in year to save his reputation. With Taylor as OC. Lurie may well be right that DP had to go to keep rebuilding. Mr. Roseman is still a cap wizard, and I felt when Lurie said his evaluation of the performance of our GM, relative to all the other teams was fair and that he would have fired him otherwise - that THAT is actually true.

I know how emotional you are, you went nuts about that Hurts pick too, and that will probably turn into the future, but if not it sure will turn into a really good pick. Give things a bit of time to play out. But I am telling you: Not all is lost. We still have a good organization with some really good pieces. I am confident this will be the one year exception and despite the rebuild we will be a lot better next year already.

If you're rebuilding, you choose your keystone players to build the roster around , trade or release whoever else you can for picks and pick up middle of the road free agents to fill out the roster for a year, that hopefully clears much of the cap issues in one go and stocks the roster with young hungry players for the future, is there anyone on this message board who doesn't spot the fatal flaw in a plan to restock the roster with young talented players with the current GM?  Anyone?

Howie should be gone, his 'cap magic'  the last few years is kicking cap hits down the road with restructures for players that are over the hill, his talent evaluation is putrid, the most overrated GM in football.

4 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

Almost everyone that played for him has said amazing things about him. 

Also lots of current and former players advocating for Duce including Malcom Jenkins. Said that when duce stands up in a room he commands respect. 

24 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If you're rebuilding, you choose your keystone players to build the roster around , trade or release whoever else you can for picks and pick up middle of the road free agents to fill out the roster for a year, that hopefully clears much of the cap issues in one go and stocks the roster with young hungry players for the future, is there anyone on this message board who doesn't spot the fatal flaw in a plan to restock the roster with young talented players with the current GM?  Anyone?

Howie should be gone, his 'cap magic'  the last few years is kicking cap hits down the road with restructures for players that are over the hill, his talent evaluation is putrid, the most overrated GM in football.

Is this some kind of mantra one has to believe in?

Ok fine, lets go for it!

 

Hurts, Goedert, Sanders, Mailata, Driscoll, Sweat - all of them probably hits, right? 

Haven't given up on Dillard or Barnett. Super confident on Reagor! 

I actually liked Mills at safety, when he was able to play there and not forced to play outside CB, and I think Maddox makes for a pretty decent slot CB.

Hargraves sure looked like a stud, didn't he? Picking up Fulgham and Edwards on the cheap sure doesn't look terrible either.

 

So is his evaluation "putrid" ? No way.

51 minutes ago, Infam said:

I think this is all the truth. I think he really let us look into his thought process. And yes, that's really all this is: a process. And one that is data driven for us. They all worked together on this one, and besides this BS "all is bad with the Eagles" attitude all around here, we DO have a really good structure. And I DO believe Mr. Roseman will do a good job for us moving forward.

So what if it IS true that Lurie wanted a rebuild, and Pederson wanted another all-in year to save his reputation. With Taylor as OC. Lurie may well be right that DP had to go to keep rebuilding. Mr. Roseman is still a cap wizard, and I felt when Lurie said his evaluation of the performance of our GM, relative to all the other teams was fair and that he would have fired him otherwise - that THAT is actually true.

I know how emotional you are, you went nuts about that Hurts pick too, and that will probably turn into the future, but if not it sure will turn into a really good pick. Give things a bit of time to play out. But I am telling you: Not all is lost. We still have a good organization with some really good pieces. I am confident this will be the one year exception and despite the rebuild we will be a lot better next year already.

Hang on hang on. We have a good structure? Who are you kidding? This structure is utter dog ish right now and has been declining for the last 2/3 years. Time for this organisation to wake up and realise the position this team is in! It's a bad roster that's over the cap and is going to have to get worse before it can get any better. And the way for it to get better is to draft well. And guess what? The GM can't draft for ish so how exactly is that a good structure?

Howie made the decisions to go all in. He was the one who restricted and re-signed older guys to have another run. He was the one who gave Doug a flawed roster to work with. I'm not quite sure why that's hard to see. 

Was Doug the answer? Possibly not and hey no real issue there. The issue is that they've kept the biggest problem in position. Howie is a bad GM. He's a weasel. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Hang on hang on. We have a good structure? Who are you kidding? This structure is utter dog ish right now and has been declining for the last 2/3 years. Time for this organisation to wake up and realise the position this team is in! It's a bad roster that's over the cap and is going to have to get worse before it can get any better. And the way for it to get better is to draft well. And guess what? The GM can't draft for ish so how exactly is that a good structure? 

Oh my god, we missed the playoffs for a year. The  sky is falling! Utter dogshit I say! 😁

Just now, Infam said:

Oh my god, we missed the playoffs for a year. The  sky is falling! Utter dogshit I say! 😁

4 wins. 4 wins. Oh and by the way last year they back doored it in to the play offs due to a very favourable final 4 game run. Oh and the year before they needed a late run plus the Vikings to stuff it up to get in.

This roster has very little elite young talent and that simply can't be ignored. 

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like this press conference very much. He basically said that Doug was fired b/c he wants to win next year instead of build towards the next 3 to 5 years. He's a good coach that doesn't deserve to be around for rebuild mode. Then when asked again about Doug he went ahead and listed not having draft picks, signing older vets and things like that which are the fault of the GM. IMO that whole interview was a bunch of hor$e$h!t. 👎

Just now, mr_irie1 said:

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like this press conference very much. He basically said that Doug was fired b/c he wants to win next year instead of build towards the next 3 to 5 years. He's a good coach that doesn't deserve to be around for rebuild mode. Then when asked again about Doug he went ahead and listed not having draft picks, signing older vets and things like that which are the fault of the GM. IMO that whole interview was a bunch of hor$e$h!t. 👎

It was a train wreck. He kept everyone waiting because he turned up nearly 40 minutes late. He gave BS answers to some very direct questions. It was a complete joke. He defended the indefensible and to be honest highlighted that the duo of Howie and Lurie are the issue.

1 hour ago, Infam said:

I think this is all the truth. I think he really let us look into his thought process. And yes, that's really all this is: a process. And one that is data driven for us. They all worked together on this one, and besides this BS "all is bad with the Eagles" attitude all around here, we DO have a really good structure. And I DO believe Mr. Roseman will do a good job for us moving forward.

So what if it IS true that Lurie wanted a rebuild, and Pederson wanted another all-in year to save his reputation. With Taylor as OC. Lurie may well be right that DP had to go to keep rebuilding. Mr. Roseman is still a cap wizard, and I felt when Lurie said his evaluation of the performance of our GM, relative to all the other teams was fair and that he would have fired him otherwise - that THAT is actually true.

I know how emotional you are, you went nuts about that Hurts pick too, and that will probably turn into the future, but if not it sure will turn into a really good pick. Give things a bit of time to play out. But I am telling you: Not all is lost. We still have a good organization with some really good pieces. I am confident this will be the one year exception and despite the rebuild we will be a lot better next year already.

Idk how anyone can look at the contracts given out in the last 3 years and still think Howie is a cap wizard.

1 minute ago, devpool said:

Idk how anyone can look at the contracts given out in the last 3 years and still think Howie is a cap wizard.

He's not a cap wizard. He kicked the can down the road and this is the end result of that. 

6 minutes ago, mr_irie1 said:

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like this press conference very much. He basically said that Doug was fired b/c he wants to win next year instead of build towards the next 3 to 5 years. He's a good coach that doesn't deserve to be around for rebuild mode. Then when asked again about Doug he went ahead and listed not having draft picks, signing older vets and things like that which are the fault of the GM. IMO that whole interview was a bunch of hor$e$h!t. 👎

Lurie is the one that said they wanted to keep running it back to try and capture the super bowl. So they finally realize it's not going to work and then fire Doug for still thinking they can win? What kind of sheet is he on? Did they expect Doug to just lay down and say yeah let's go out there and lose for the future! 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Lurie is the one that said they wanted to keep running it back to try and capture the super bowl. So they finally realize it's not going to work and then fire Doug for still thinking they can win? What kind of sheet is he on? Did they expect Doug to just lay down and say yeah let's go out their and lose for the future! 

Agreed. Perhaps Doug was in agreement to try and capitalise on a very good roster. And if he was then maybe he wasn't the right man to lead this team with a rebuild. But he wasn't the only one who was making those decisions. He wasn't the only one pushing that.

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Lurie is the one that said they wanted to keep running it back to try and capture the super bowl. So they finally realize it's not going to work and then fire Doug for still thinking they can win? What kind of sheet is he on? Did they expect Doug to just lay down and say yeah let's go out their and lose for the future! 

I don't think this is about playing to lose.

It was about trading draft picks for vets and making fewer picks though. After this pc I wonder if we trade back.

7 minutes ago, mr_irie1 said:

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like this press conference very much. He basically said that Doug was fired b/c he wants to win next year instead of build towards the next 3 to 5 years. He's a good coach that doesn't deserve to be around for rebuild mode. Then when asked again about Doug he went ahead and listed not having draft picks, signing older vets and things like that which are the fault of the GM. IMO that whole interview was a bunch of hor$e$h!t. 👎

It was a Howie Roseman coverup. Nothing more. 

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's not a cap wizard. He kicked the can down the road and this is the end result of that. 

Well doesn't matter anyways if they are doing a rebuild they won't have a need to sign any big free agents and now have an excuse to purge alot of older players. So in the end Howie saves the day again. 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well doesn't matter anyways if they are doing a rebuild they won't have a need to sign any big free agents and now have an excuse to purge alot of older players. So in the end Howie saves the day again. 

Howie does nothing to save anything. He's a weasel and the day he's fired is going to be the day I have a huge party.

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

I don't think this is about playing to lose.

It was about trading draft picks for vets and making fewer picks though. After this pc I wonder if we trade back.

If they intend to roll with Carson I can see them trading back trying to get more players to surround him with. Unless carson is the key to getting more picks. 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well doesn't matter anyways if they are doing a rebuild they won't have a need to sign any big free agents and now have an excuse to purge alot of older players. So in the end Howie saves the day again. 

The cap situation is one thing I don't worry a second about. Everybody here should know better by now.

Plus Lurie said that if he were a coach looking for a good HC job then he wouldn't even care about the teams cap. Everyone knows that any cap issues can easily be fixed in like 12 months. 

edit: For the record I don't really disagree and I'm not worried about the cap like some are around here. It's just weird to me how easily he brushed that concern away.

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

If they intend to roll with Carson I can see them trading back trying to get more players to surround him with. Unless carson is the key to getting more picks. 

My hopes are on Hurts plus Riley.

I have that bad feeling that this might be the last year we get some significant compensation for Wentz. He just was so damn bad this year..

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Howie does nothing to save anything. He's a weasel and the day he's fired is going to be the day I have a huge party.

I was being sarcastic..... Blowing this up and doing a rebuild does help get Howie out of the cap mess. That will.make him look good and let lurie say how great he is. That's what I meant