VeeMak Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Ace Nova said: Maybe both. Lurie should just sell the team to London. New owner. New fans. Win-Win. @UK Eagle @UK_EaglesFan89 and @ManchesterEagle would not qualify as new fans, though. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, VeeMak said: @UK Eagle @UK_EaglesFan89 and @ManchesterEagle would not qualify as new fans, though. We are the only 3 Eagles fans in the UK though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeMak Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: We are the only 3 Eagles fans in the UK though... Hey, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Question is, would you keep the Eagles moniker or would you prefer Harriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, VeeMak said: Hey, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Question is, would you keep the Eagles moniker or would you prefer Harriers? Nah definitely keep the Eagles moniker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 While we're at it: new name and logo inspired by 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Vic Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 8:40 AM, NOTW said: Lurie has been a good owner and brought a lot of winning to the team. The thing is, he has never had a philosophy to hire a solid GM to run things and stay out of it. Once Reid was successful he let him do what he wanted. Then when Reid left he let Chip reinvent the team. Then they had to rebuild after Chip and change everything again. He needs to hire a GM with a philosophy and then every decision on the football side goes along with that philosophy. Coaching hires, scheme, scouting, free agents, everything. When you fire a coach or replace a player, you're not trying to reinvent anything it's easier to plug the next guy in to the system. Sure, you're going to innovate and evolve with the game, but your core philosophies are there. Howie has been learning on the job and changing gears every couple seasons. It was Dream Team free agent frenzy, then it was oh let's extend our own players, then it was trade back and collect draft picks then it was trade picks for proven players and sign veterans players, then it was trade up to draft a QB. Last year it was take a QB in the 2nd after signing your starter to $100 million. Shift from short-term decisions after the SB and clinging to aging veterans to getting younger. Oh, we need speed let's draft all the speed players this year and let's also be a QB factory. There is no plan it's just band aids every year. Howie's ability to manage the cap has afforded them the opportunity to cover up for bad drafting with some free agent signings, it's easier to take a proven player in the NFL. There are so many reports of dysfunction despite their insistence on collaboration. Howie has remained while coaches and personnel staff have gone. It is known nationally that the Eagles have not drafted well. And they've hung onto injury prone veteran older players and given them contract extensions that hurt their ability in the cap. Now they have a HC who was assumed to be the easiest Yes Man in the NFL and even he got tired of the meddling from the owner and GM. Lurie still sees the organization as the team that won the SB and that's understandable. But he is blind to Roseman's faults. And if he's meddling about who they should draft and which coaches they should hire...that's the road to more dysfunction. Lurie always wanted to have his hands on the wheel, so when Kelly shut him and Howie out..he dismissed him. He did not have to do anything with Reid, because Reid was a superior manager. DP was a pushover ...until he rebelled and said enough is enough. Now the new coaching requirement for the Philadelphia Eagles..is not only to be a great coach, but you have to do it with owner's hand up your but. No one experienced would want these requirements. A new upcoming coordinator may jump at the chance..hoping that they can split at the earliest opportunity. It's a mess. All of it starts with the owner. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yeah no point in arguing this. Not going to happen. Have fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Yeah no point in arguing this. Not going to happen. Have fun though. This thread blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 9:09 PM, EagleVA said: Of all the bad picks made over the years I think JJ was the worst of them all Marcus Smith, Danny Watkins and Sidney Jones say hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeMak Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Yeah no point in arguing this. Not going to happen. Have fun though. I don’t think anyone is seriously thinking new ownership can be forced by the fans, here. C’mon. This is a thread to complain about Lurie and his bungling of the situation. 6 hours ago, downundermike said: This thread blows Then don’t post in it, DUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonblood Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Lurie WAS one of the best owners the Eagles ever had. I think he became a LOT more hands on the last 5 years or so, and in particular the last 3, and the results have not been good. His recent presser was discouraging, as he didn't look at his mistakes or the effects it had on the org. Nor Howies. That is some bad news. Real change for the better happens in humility, where a person admits their mistakes. Lurie did the opposite. Hoping for the best, because Jerry Jones 3.0 isn't going to change any time soon. I used to like him. After the last 3 years, not so much. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOORDA Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 All we need is a statue of howie. That’ll all but guarantee him being canned. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidrone Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 5:58 PM, Talonblood said: Lurie WAS one of the best owners the Eagles ever had. I think he became a LOT more hands on the last 5 years or so, and in particular the last 3, and the results have not been good. His recent presser was discouraging, as he didn't look at his mistakes or the effects it had on the org. Nor Howies. That is some bad news. Real change for the better happens in humility, where a person admits their mistakes. Lurie did the opposite. Hoping for the best, because Jerry Jones 3.0 isn't going to change any time soon. I used to like him. After the last 3 years, not so much. Of course he didn't. If he did then all we would hear and see are articles about how Lurie wants to sell the team, he has given up, he doesnt know what he is doing, etc. The Philly media can be relentless and brutal. They still use 'gold standard' for god sakes even though Lurie was referencing the way the Eagles handled the salary cap versus other teams back then. They were the gold standard among teams but people have twisted it into something to be completely different then it's original text. It is better to not feed to the beast in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uscg-green Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Lurie isn't going to sell the team. The End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Uscg-green said: Lurie isn't going to sell the team. The End. Nor should he. He is still a good owner and is great for the community. Every owner goes through ups and downs, unless you have Belichick as a coach and Brady as your QB. It could be much worse. We could have Jerry Jones for an owner 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeMak Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Pliny said: Nor should he. He is still a good owner and is great for the community. Every owner goes through ups and downs, unless you have Belichick as a coach and Brady as your QB. It could be much worse. We could have Jerry Jones for an owner 🙂 Yeah, it would be awful to have an owner that was always polishing those three Lombardis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Pliny said: Nor should he. He is still a good owner and is great for the community. Every owner goes through ups and downs, unless you have Belichick as a coach and Brady as your QB. It could be much worse. We could have Jerry Jones for an owner 🙂 Or Dan Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 10:41 AM, beto_eagles said: I think he's a good owner and he certainly won't sell the team any time soon. But yeah, yesterday's presser was pathetic. Isn't that the same as saying Lurie was pathetic, I mean it was pathetic because of his foolish statements. My advice to Lurie is to talk as little as possible that way he won't sound like a fool, "Doug doesn't deserve to be fired but I'm firing him", you can't get more foolish than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxeaglesfanxx Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Owners rarely sell NFL teams these days. They usually stick around until they die lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 12:29 AM, downundermike said: Marcus Smith, Danny Watkins and Sidney Jones say hello Marcus Smith was that pick that made Chip Kelly want to pull his hair out. 28 minutes ago, xxeaglesfanxx said: Owners rarely sell NFL teams these days. They usually stick around until they die lol. Who gets the Eagles when Lurie dies? He has no kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Who gets the Eagles when Lurie dies? He has no kids. I believe he does actually... One of them sat in on the Doug interview 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeMak Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Marcus Smith was that pick that made Chip Kelly want to pull his hair out. Who gets the Eagles when Lurie dies? He has no kids. Howie Roseman says Hi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 hours ago, VeeMak said: Yeah, it would be awful to have an owner that was always polishing those three Lombardis. That was Jimmy Johnson who won those 3 Lombardis. Since then, Jerry Jones the GM has been a negative factor with that franchise, other than merchandise sales. Talk about a meddling owner. 26+ years since Dallas has even been in the NFC Championship game. It's been a miserable run for "America's Team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Marcus Smith was that pick that made Chip Kelly want to pull his hair out. Who gets the Eagles when Lurie dies? He has no kids. We have been through this before. Yes he has kids and it's his wife getting it anyways. She took a good chunk of the team in their divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeMak Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Pliny said: That was Jimmy Johnson who won those 3 Lombardis. Since then, Jerry Jones the GM has been a negative factor with that franchise, other than merchandise sales. Talk about a meddling owner. 26+ years since Dallas has even been in the NFC Championship game. It's been a miserable run for "America's Team" 3 > 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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