13 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Like I said, a good accomplishment. Not great. 

If he regains his form then that's what it was a off year. If he still sucks then he's probably broken. Now I'll also say this. We should look at how HE plays. The team is not going to be good next year. He can still play well and not win.

19 hours ago, JohnB said:

why isn't there anything on our own site confirming the hire?

They will announce it on Monday. Nothing to take the spotlight off the games 

1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

Nope. Not yet. I suspect they're talking about how important it is for Howie to control all player personnel choices and coaching staff hires.

They are taking about who all they have picked for his coaching staff. 

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Ditto.  I think they really need to take a long look in the mirror and realize what is in the best long term interest for the team is to not focus on trying to be competitive this year or next.  These next 2 years should be about trimming the fat and adding the pieces.  Knock on wood Howie hits a couple consecutive drafts.

Trust the process 2.0. 

The most experienced coach since Andy or earlier. 

16 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Oh yeah it was remarkable giving the Titans a 1000yard rusher who had one bad year to trade 4th round picks, then giving the Dolphins a 3 year starter at LB plus our previous years best cornerback to trade first rounders and dump salary, truly the god of GM's is among us

He managed to flip a roster that had gone 7-9 into a team that went 9-7, remarkable.

Chip Kelly's 2015 roster is the most overstated problem in Eagles history.

Wait. hold on a minute here, let's not forget Chip picking up a north-south, between the tackles RB from Dallas and making him run swing plays....all the time.

Any LB could have started in Miami for those years.  He gave them ONE sack in THREE years.  (Yeah, he played almost every game in those three seasons)  

Flat out cutting DeSean???  I can understand getting rid of him, but for absolutely nothing?  Sometimes subtraction is simply subtraction.

 

Chip Kelly's roster isn't even the most overstated Eagles problem in 2015.

 

Say what you want, Roseman dumped the Kelly players and brought together a Super Bowl winning team.

 

I still think he can make trades, he just can't draft.

1 hour ago, Uscg-green said:

If he regains his form then that's what it was a off year. If he still sucks then he's probably broken. Now I'll also say this. We should look at how HE plays. The team is not going to be good next year. He can still play well and not win.

I can agree here. 

1 hour ago, ThinkGreen said:

The most experienced coach since Andy or earlier. 

The Reid hire was widely criticized for him being inexperienced, only a QB coach and never a coordinator. The media mocked his organized binder with a 5 year plan. 

12 hours ago, Procus said:

C'mon - yes, he had a horrible year.  But he's body of work before 2020 was pretty good.  I remember he tailed off in 2016 when LJ went down too.

Speaking of which, I heard Adam Caplan say that Lane Johnson’s recovery from surgery is going extremely well.

9 hours ago, philafan4o8 said:

I think we found some common ground with civil conversation so I am glad we were able to do that. The only thing I would go after on your reply was Josh McDaniels. Yes, comes from a great culture. But most of the coaches that leave that nest become lowsy head coaches. As a head coach, we saw McDaniels with the Broncos and going all in on Tim Tebow. That is one of the many horrible decisions he made in denver. 

Marvin Lewis I dont have much to argue here because he never won a playoff game but he was a solid headcoach just not in playoffs. But Jim Caldwell, age should not be a factor. He took the colts to a superbowl and took a bad lions team and made them respectable. He gets fired after going 9-7 and the next HC (to remain nameless) best record with the Lions was not better than the worst record under Caldwell.

But I think we found some common ground for the most part

Regarding McDaniels, I don’t think many people like him, but keep in mind he was really young when he coached the Broncos. He was like 33. We’ve seen coaches mature as they get older and do better in their second opportunity. Having said that, McDaniels just seems like an ass.

As for Marvin Lewis, I feel like that guy got to coach the Bengals for way longer than he deserved. He was there for 16 seasons and didn’t win a single playoff game. Imagine if the Eagles stuck with a coach that long without them winning a single playoff game? Fans would be furious. BTW, Lewis was apparently Andy Reid’s first choice for DC when he took the Eagles job, but Lewis turned him down.

Also, in regards to Black coaches and the Eagles, apparently Kevin Sumlin has said the Eagles offered him the job in 2013, but he turned them down.

Anyone else have the feeling that Doug will never get a head coach job again?

I feel pretty bad for him. Despite helping us win a SB he will just be remembered more as the guy who couldn't get along with his star QB and tanked a game. 

7 hours ago, Outlaw said:

You realize Lurie hired a minority coach before there were rules in place surrounding that, yes?  And please with your intricate knowledge of Eric vs Nick, what criteria are you using to call Eric the better candidate?

Eric B is the OC on an offense that tends to lead the league... 

24 minutes ago, opa-opa said:

Anyone else have the feeling that Doug will never get a head coach job again?

I feel pretty bad for him. Despite helping us win a SB he will just be remembered more as the guy who couldn't get along with his star QB and tanked a game. 

he will get another shot

26 minutes ago, opa-opa said:

Anyone else have the feeling that Doug will never get a head coach job again?

I feel pretty bad for him. Despite helping us win a SB he will just be remembered more as the guy who couldn't get along with his star QB and tanked a game. 

I think he'll get another opportunity. I don't think the Eagles did him any favours by firing him later in the process. I think a lot of teams already had their guys identified. 

A year away may do him some good. Distance himself from that awful year and teams may then think "oh yeah that's the guy who won the SB with his back up QB".

9 hours ago, NOTW said:

The Reid hire was widely criticized for him being inexperienced, only a QB coach and never a coordinator. The media mocked his organized binder with a 5 year plan. 

Yeah, I guess Andy's NFL experience was more similar to Duce's. 

9 minutes ago, ThinkGreen said:

Yeah, I guess Andy's NFL experience was more similar to Duce's. 

Oh, you mean Duce coached up Brett Favre to two Super Bowls and one trophy?

 

21 minutes ago, Procus said:

Oh, you mean Duce coached up Brett Favre to two Super Bowls and one trophy?

 

If you want to be technical, duce won a superbowl as a player, has been to a superbowl and won a superbowl as a coach. 

14 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Hurts is a RB that can throw. That's all he is. I can't wait for every incompletion next year from Wentz we are going to hear " wEnTz SuCkS sTaRt HuRtS!." That's why I was hoping for a trade. Plus we could get our wasted 2nd round pick back. 

Could not disagree more. Hurts is a QB who also runs. He has all the intangibles and with the right training can become an excellent QB. Yes he made rookie mistakes...being a rookie, but he also thrown some beautiful darts right on the money. There are no guarantees that Wentz can be fixed, but there is a very high certainty that most rookies take a step up in the year 2. I want to continue this conversation a year from now, with tutelage under Nick.

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Eric B is the OC on an offense that tends to lead the league... 

Yet he keeps getting passed over, and it isn’t because of his skin color. So what is it do you think?  Bad interviewer?  Maybe his sordid past scares some people off?  I dunno. 

14 hours ago, time2rock said:

Ditto.  I think they really need to take a long look in the mirror and realize that what is in the best long term interest for the team is to not focus on trying to be competitive this year or next.  These next 2 years should be about trimming the fat and adding the pieces.  Knock on wood Howie hits a couple consecutive drafts.

Dorsey has to be a factor in drafting as well.

Credited for Aaron Rodgers, Clay Mathews and Greg Jennings, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb, Antonio Calloway...and traded/signed pieces that helped. (Drafted Mahomes, but I credit Reid for most of that).

 

16 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Yet he keeps getting passed over, and it isn’t because of his skin color. So what is it do you think?  Bad interviewer?  Maybe his sordid past scares some people off?  I dunno. 

I have no idea. I mean look we know that Lurie has been out ahead of equality etc in the past but he hired Ray Rhodes in 1995? I mean that is a long long time ago now. 

15 hours ago, time2rock said:

Knock on wood Howie hits a couple consecutive drafts.

 

What’s taking so long for a formal announcement and presser? 

15 minutes ago, DBW said:

What’s taking so long for a formal announcement and presser? 

Probably waiting till after the championship games.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I have no idea. I mean look we know that Lurie has been out ahead of equality etc in the past but he hired Ray Rhodes in 1995? I mean that is a long long time ago now. 

This is not a color thing. As you said Rhodes was Lurie’s first hire. Do you think he became racist? Lol. Bienemy does not have a very nice personal history beginning in college and extending to his NFL days. I think that may be a factor, we all know Andy is all about second chances. Not all are. 

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

This is not a color thing. As you said Rhodes was Lurie’s first hire. Do you think he became racist? Lol. Bienemy does not have a very nice personal history beginning in college and extending to his NFL days. I think that may be a factor, we all know Andy is all about second chances. Not all are. 

Unless you're George Hegamin.