1 hour ago, weko said:

Yes could be cap related with the trade down in the 1st but 2nd and 3rd round picks don't make much money

We haven't got any money, according to Over the Cap's numbers, we'll need to get Barnett restructured and Ertz cut to get maybe $10million under the cap, #12 will carry a $3million cap hit, 2nd round average about $1million, so probably a shade over at #38 that leaves you with 6 million to sign the other 9 picks and any UDFA's. 

4 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

O. My bad. But still ug

I'm there with you. Its not a bad trade per se...it just looks stupid. One minute you try to trade up for Zack Wilson...you can't so you decide to trade down and focus on next year. Meanwhile, showing you have zero faith in Jalen Hurts. 

16 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

So now we have to dig up dirt on Chase and Pitts and post it the night before the draft starts to get them to slide ala. Tunsil. You know, it's always something with this team. Sheesh...where's my pin camera??? crap, it's around here somewhere.

I heard Chase picks his nose and wipes it on the Gatorade jug, and Pitts cheats at Monopoly.

6 minutes ago, Infam said:

Doesn't bother me one bit. It's a non-issue no matter how hard you try to create a problem that doesn't exist.

Yes, it absolutely is an issue.  Teams are not built entirely though the draft.  Free agency is part of the NFL, especially when you have a front office that is in the bottom 20% of the league in draft success.  You seem to have no understanding of how the NFL works.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Giants are already stacked at WR. Same with the Cowboys at 10 and Broncos at 9.  Panthers at 8 will likely go QB.  Lions at 7 could go WR.  Dolphins could at 6 but OT makes sense for them as well.  Bengals should go OT.  Falcons at 4 could go Pitts but WR doesn't make sense for them. 

Agree with you for most part. I think Panthers go CB, OT, or QB. Miami & Detroit are only teams that I realistically see going Pitts/Chase. I think Atlanta goes OT or QB.

Real concern would be a team after 12 trading up for one of the two

Just now, downundermike said:

Yes, it absolutely is an issue.  Teams are not built entirely though the draft.  Free agency is part of the NFL, especially when you have a front office that is in the bottom 20% of the league in draft success.  You seem to have no understanding of how the NFL works.

We've done good enough this FA under circumstances that no one could've possibly predicted. How you could think we are in serious financial trouble shows the one who doesn't understand how it works is you.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Giants are already stacked at WR. Same with the Cowboys at 10 and Broncos at 9.  Panthers at 8 will likely go QB.  Lions at 7 could go WR.  Dolphins could at 6 but OT makes sense for them as well.  Bengals should go OT.  Falcons at 4 could go Pitts but WR doesn't make sense for them. 

 

Yeah but you can't predict what a team will do aside from the #1st overall pick. We know that's Lawrence. 

You remember what happened last year when the Cowboys needed defense but didn't like anyone available? They took Lamb. I could right now see the Cowboys, Bronco's, Panthers, Lions and Dolphins all take a wide receiver or Pitts. Or trading down with someone who may wants want of these guys. Sitting at #12 is a ugly spot and its also why you don't trade draft picks this early. You wait until the draft to see how things fall. 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yes, it absolutely is an issue.  Teams are not built entirely though the draft.  Free agency is part of the NFL, especially when you have a front office that is in the bottom 20% of the league in draft success.  You seem to have no understanding of how the NFL works.

ESPECIALLY the Eagles. Every single Super Bowl winner had key free agents they picked up including this Eagles team. And how someone could be so arrogant to think his team of all teams can draft their way into contention is just a moron. 

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

We've done good enough this FA under circumstances that no one could've possibly predicted. How you could think we are in serious financial trouble shows the one who doesn't understand how it works is you.

We signed a safety coming off a bad year, and a back up / ST safety, and a QB that if he has to play our season is over.

We also have 4.3 million in dead cap next year tied to two of those players and they will not be on the roster.

If they had any faith in Hurts they would have tried to get him a weapon at 6.This is the white flag for 2021. 

2 hours ago, bobeph said:

They’re going to suck this year anyway.  Now they’ll most likely have 3 first round picks next year.  I like it.

well you are an idiot

6 minutes ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

I'm there with you. Its not a bad trade per se...it just looks stupid. One minute you try to trade up for Zack Wilson...you can't so you decide to trade down and focus on next year. Meanwhile, showing you have zero faith in Jalen Hurts. 

Oh they have made it clear unless he just blows everyone away, he's a placeholder. 

2 minutes ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

 

Yeah but you can't predict what a team will do aside from the #1st overall pick. We know that's Lawrence. 

You remember what happened last year when the Cowboys needed defense but didn't like anyone available? They took Lamb. I could right now see the Cowboys, Bronco's, Panthers, Lions and Dolphins all take a wide receiver or Pitts. Or trading down with someone who may wants want of these guys. Sitting at #12 is a ugly spot and its also why you don't trade draft picks this early. You wait until the draft to see how things fall. 

 

If they all take a WR then that means another top player will just drop to the Eagles. 

 

I will never understand the obsession fans have had with WR in this draft as if this team is a WR away from competing.  Our roster sucks.  It is old and there are holes all around it.  We desperately need young talent on defense much more than we need a WR. 

Just now, Uscg-green said:

If they had any faith in Hurts they would have tried to get him a weapon at 6.This is the white flag for 2021. 

wow, we agree, thats 2x's, they may still have a shot at a project they believe will pan out in 3 to 4 yrs

26 minutes ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

 

The Hurts pick is what started all of this crap.

 

How would the season have went if instead of drafting Reagor they traded up to get Lamb or they drafted Justin Jefferson and used that 2nd rounder on a offensive player? I would've felt much better about this team and the offense would be looking up. 

So basically they didn't want to "do anything" this year is what you're saying? They just sit here with a terrible roster because its fun?

The season probably would have been fine if they just drafted Jefferson and Chinn. 

1 minute ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

 

Yeah but you can't predict what a team will do aside from the #1st overall pick. We know that's Lawrence. 

You remember what happened last year when the Cowboys needed defense but didn't like anyone available? They took Lamb. I could right now see the Cowboys, Bronco's, Panthers, Lions and Dolphins all take a wide receiver or Pitts. Or trading down with someone who may wants want of these guys. Sitting at #12 is a ugly spot and its also why you don't trade draft picks this early. You wait until the draft to see how things fall. 

Fair point, but things are a Little different this year. Broncos took Fant in 1st in 2019, then Jeudy/Hamler in 1st/2nd last year. Panthers could but with DJ Moore & Robby Anderson odds are against that. Cowboys might honestly take Pitts since Gallup will most likely hit FA next year. But it’d be a terrible use of resources IMO.

Is this another Cardinals in 2019 situation? Cause I’m confused here. It’s from Schefter, he doesn’t get fed smoke like this nor would he tweet that. But you also don’t give up multiple first round picks in this trade up for a non QB, right? 
 

I’m very confused on this one

Meh who cares. I have zero faith in them drafting worth a damn anyways

41 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

 

From the moment they selected Hurts I hated the pick. Look Hurts could become a HOF quarterback (not saying it’s likely btw) and I will still dislike this pick. You don’t waste higher round picks on projects and backups. Those guys should be key contributors or starters. Hurts ended up being the starter, but that clearly wasn’t the plan which shows how screwed up the plan was from the beginning. 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Meh who cares. I have zero faith in them drafting worth a damn anyways

This was the one thing I didn’t want them to do. Trade back and try and show everyone how smart they are. We have seen this movie before. 

47 minutes ago, Infam said:

Haha way to stand your ground. How anyone could possibly still think Hurts was a bad pick is beyond me, but hey. Opinions are like a-holes.

My problem isn’t with the player but with the choice. I can’t ignore the fact they made the selection of Hurts contributed to the breakdown of Wentz. The bigger issue here is the team at that moment had much bigger needs than a backup quarterback. How about getting a starting caliber safety instead? Worst part is their actions clearly show they’ve not fully invested in Hurts. Why the heck did they draft him if the don’t even want to give him a chance? Who picked him in the first place? 

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

From the moment they selected Hurts I hated the pick. Look Hurts could become a HOF quarterback (not saying it’s likely btw) and I will still dislike this pick. You don’t waste higher round picks on projects and backups. Those guys should be key contributors or starters. Hurts ended up being the starter, but that clearly wasn’t the plan which shows how screwed up the plan was from the beginning. 

From the moment we drafted Hurts i loved the pick. He is a great franchise QB and by the way: I am so glad that Wentz is gone. I liked DP, but at this point I am super happy with the new coaches too. The one thing I didn't want was us drafting a QB. Trading back was the best thing we could do. 

Now I'll spend the rest of the evening drooling over Waddle! Couldn't be happier, the Eagles did everything right so far both this year.

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

This was the one thing I didn’t want them to do. Trade back and try and show everyone how smart they are. We have seen this movie before. 

Pretty much, I actually really don't care now. There was some fantastic talent in those first 10 picks and now we are out of the top 10 so that means Howie needs to think a little more so that just killed whatever hope I had for difference maker. 

19 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Fact.  We have 73 million in 2022 cap space 3 weeks ago.  Now we have 25 million.

It does not bother you that Howie had to shave 48.2 million off the 2022 cap space, while not adding any players to the roster for that year ??

That is not a fact. We do not know what the 2022 cap will look like. It is conjecture at best.

It does not bother me at all. I knew going into this year that the Eagles were going to have to take their lumps this year. When the cap dropped I knew that it would spread to next year.

There are 4 current players that the Eagles may or may not resign that effect the cap (Goedert, Dillard,Sanders and Barnett). None of them are going to break the bank, nor are they irreplaceable if they have to get rid of them (with the exception of maybe Sanders). They do not have a big contract that they have to worry about for the next couple of years.

This worrying is much ado about nothing.