14 minutes ago, DBW said:

Who’s he playing against though?  Certainly not elite level talent.  it’s too early to call anyone a bust obviously so I’m not doing that.  But what I don’t like is that we took him over a guy who had an elite ab throwing him the ball in a better conference against better opponents.  I think that translates better to the nfl.  In fact it might speak more volume than if Reagor dominated and put up amazing stats vs lesser opponents.  I guess I’m tired of howie continually taking the not so obvious pick trying to prove he’s smarter than everybody.  I don’t buy the "he would have been taking a few picks later” BS he put out there.  Yeah he might have been but that doesn’t mean you have to get him.  Just My 2 cents.  

 

The same talent that Lamb was playing against. He also played really well against Okudah in 2018. He beat him deep twice in that game and the QB over threw him. 7 catches for 98 yards and it should have been way worse. They win that game Against Ohio State on Reagor’s shoulders if those passes are on point. Jefferson doesn’t fit what we need on offense. We already have 3-4 players who play slot.

Lots of depth at the OT/OG positions guys... Just saying, you know how this team likes to build through the trenches, I wouldn't be surprised if Howie goes after a rotational guy like Vaitai.

OT: Josh Jones, Ezra Cleveland, Ben Bartch, Shadiq Charles, Matt Peart,, Robert Hunt (lots of flexible options)

2 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

The same talent that Lamb was playing against. He also played really well against Okudah in 2018. He beat him deep twice in that game and the QB under threw him. 7 catches for 98 yards and it should have been way worse. They win that game Against Ohio State on Reagor’s shoulders if those passes are on point. Jefferson doesn’t fit what we need on offense. We already have 3-4 players who play slot.

Yeah I am kind of sour that we were not able to trade back and still get Reagor, but I would rather have him than Jefferson. Jefferson is a redundancy in this offense, Reagor adds something needed. What kills me is that Lamb is going to punish this defense for years to come, wish another team would have grabbed him earlier.

3 minutes ago, QBhunter58 said:

Yeah I am kind of sour that we were not able to trade back and still get Reagor, but I would rather have him than Jefferson. Jefferson is a redundancy in this offense, Reagor adds something needed. What kills me is that Lamb is going to punish this defense for years to come, wish another team would have grabbed him earlier.

Dallas needed to get offensive line and defensive help. Lamb will probably be 800-1000 yards but that’s what Cobb did. They have got worse as a team where the Eagles have got better.

26 minutes ago, DBW said:

Who’s he playing against though?  Certainly not elite level talent.  it’s too early to call anyone a bust obviously so I’m not doing that.  But what I don’t like is that we took him over a guy who had an elite ab throwing him the ball in a better conference against better opponents.  I think that translates better to the nfl.  In fact it might speak more volume than if Reagor dominated and put up amazing stats vs lesser opponents.  I guess I’m tired of howie continually taking the not so obvious pick trying to prove he’s smarter than everybody.  I don’t buy the "he would have been taking a few picks later” BS he put out there.  Yeah he might have been but that doesn’t mean you have to get him.  Just My 2 cents.  

 

The Eagles publicly stated they wanted to get faster and younger. Reagor played a majority of his snaps on the outside. Jefferson played a majority of his snaps in the Slot. To me, that explains why they drafted Reagor and not Jefferson. Reagor brings explosive potential as an outside threat and he can return punts and kicks. 

8 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Dallas needed to get offensive line and defensive help. Lamb will probably be 800-1000 yards but that’s what Cobb did. They have got worse as a team where the Eagles have got better.

Adding any talent* does not make a team worse. However, I get your point. They really needed help on the defensive side of the ball in several positions, and replacing OL vacancies immediately is what winning teams do. I still think Lamb is going to crush it as a pro🤷‍♂️

*unless the talent is a complete chemistry or scheme mismatch

25 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Dallas needed to get offensive line and defensive help. Lamb will probably be 800-1000 yards but that’s what Cobb did. They have got worse as a team where the Eagles have got better.

They went with what most teams should do BPA. Every position is a need. the draft is not over, plus FA, camp cuts etc. I don't see it as the got worse. They got scary

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:They went with what most teams should do BPA. Every position is a need. the draft is not over, plus FA, camp cuts etc. I don't see it as the got worse. They got scary

Again, his production is not gonna be much more than Cobb. Dak threw for almost 5k yards last year. Lamb isn’t going to add yards to that. They also stayed healthy. They aren’t any scarier on offense. They have a ton of holes on defense and center is gonna hurt them. Especially against our DT’s. With us adding Slay I just can’t picture how they could do any better offensively against us.

BPA works to a degree. But they have young, good talent at WR. They avoided holes where there was some really good talent on the board. As an example, it would be like the Ravens or Chiefs picking a QB in the 1st for value and ignoring LB and RB. It’s just how I see it though.

Through their entire offseason SO FAR they have ultimately got worse from last year. 

4 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Again, his production is not gonna be much more than Cobb. Dak threw for almost 5k yards last year. Lamb isn’t going to add yards to that. They also stayed healthy. They aren’t any scarier on offense. They have a ton of holes on defense and center is gonna hurt them. Especially against our DT’s. With us adding Slay I just can’t picture how they could do any better offensively against us.

BPA works to a degree. But they have young, good talent at WR. They avoided holes where there was some really good talent on the board. As an example, it would be like the Ravens or Chiefs picking a QB in the 1st for value and ignoring LB and RB. It’s just how I see it though.

Through their entire offseason SO FAR they have ultimately got worse from last year. 

There's only one ball and Cooper will be fed to justify his contract just like Zeke was fed even when Pollard had the hotter hand.  Don't get me wrong, facing Lamb for the next 10 years will be a total f'ing nightmare, but in the immediate there is potential for the Cowboys WR's being less than the sum of their parts.

2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

There's only one ball and Cooper will be fed to justify his contract just like Zeke was fed even when Pollard had the hotter hand.  Don't get me wrong, facing Lamb for the next 10 years will be a total f'ing nightmare, but in the immediate there is potential for the Cowboys WR's being less than the sum of their parts.

If they develop him right. They could kill his career or their ability to resign him trying to feed Zeke and Cooper the next few years.

Just now, MillerTime said:

If they develop him right. They could kill his career or their ability to resign him trying to feed Zeke and Cooper the next few years.

Well they do have the luxury of just letting him play slot as a rookie, that's almost unfair.

34 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Eagles publicly stated they wanted to get faster and younger. Reagor played a majority of his snaps on the outside. Jefferson played a majority of his snaps in the Slot. To me, that explains why they drafted Reagor and not Jefferson. Reagor brings explosive potential as an outside threat and he can return punts and kicks. 

I can understand the fit and trying to draft for a specific need in the offense.  Hopefully I’m Wrong about it but I still feel like Jefferson was a better option in terms of translating talent to the nfl.    

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

If they develop him right. They could kill his career or their ability to resign him trying to feed Zeke and Cooper the next few years.

Coop is on really a 2 year deal. Gallup has one year left after this year on his deal. Just like us draft Dallas Geodert you have to look for the future star to replace what you currently have as well as just immediate needs. If a possible next Cooper comes along to you at a cheaper price, longer 5 year deal, younger etc, you shouldnt pass it up saying 3 WRs is too much. If that was the case we wouldnt have taken some of the players we did in past drafts. 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

Coop is on really a 2 year deal. Gallup has one year left after this year on his deal. Just like us draft Dallas Geodert you have to look for the future star to replace what you currently have as well as just immediate needs. If a possible next Cooper comes along to you at a cheaper price, longer 5 year deal, younger etc, you shouldnt pass it up saying 3 WRs is too much. If that was the case we wouldnt have taken some of the players we did in past drafts. 

Lamb is a great pick.  We are just going to have to drink that piss in our Wheaties.

 

I shouldn't have gotten to this point but Howie failed. Great job on pick #21 but the Ceedee situation was bobbled.

Again, if the Eagles can find a way to get tee higgins or michael pittman in second round, I will forget the Ceedee situation for the time being lol

2 minutes ago, philafan4o8 said:

 

I shouldn't have gotten to this point but Howie failed. Great job on pick #21 but the Ceedee situation was bobbled.

Again, if the Eagles can find a way to get tee higgins or michael pittman in second round, I will forget the Ceedee situation for the time being lol

I don't think we will ever forget the CeeDee Lamb situation as we play them twice a year, every year. Every time we play them it will be comparing Wentz to Dak and Reagor to Lamb. The NFl will never let us forget. 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

I don't think we will ever forget the CeeDee Lamb situation as we play them twice a year, every year. Every time we play them it will be comparing Wentz to Dak and Reagor to Lamb. The NFl will never let us forget. 

Lol I think my wording was incorrect. It will help me get over it even though I will never get over it. I am trying to talk myself through it.

Not many teams want to trade down. In the falcons they were willing to trade down but Howie didnt want to part with #53 i am assuming. You want to cross the bridge you have to pay the toll

1 hour ago, Uscg-green said:

Well let's put behind us the crap show that was last night and hope for the best. What's the smart play tonight?

Put it this way, our boy has better combine numbers than OBJ and AB did. It he fails here its because he cant catch or the coaches fail him.

31 minutes ago, philafan4o8 said:

 

I shouldn't have gotten to this point but Howie failed. Great job on pick #21 but the Ceedee situation was bobbled.

Again, if the Eagles can find a way to get tee higgins or michael pittman in second round, I will forget the Ceedee situation for the time being lol

I think it's going to be very hard for the Eagles to get a legitimate X receiver in the 2nd round. Probably have to trade up.

51 minutes ago, DBW said:

I can understand the fit and trying to draft for a specific need in the offense.  Hopefully I’m Wrong about it but I still feel like Jefferson was a better option in terms of translating talent to the nfl.    

Jefferson, Talent wise your probably right, but not as outside WR. At least not yet.

1 hour ago, MillerTime said:

The same talent that Lamb was playing against. He also played really well against Okudah in 2018. He beat him deep twice in that game and the QB over threw him. 7 catches for 98 yards and it should have been way worse. They win that game Against Ohio State on Reagor’s shoulders if those passes are on point. Jefferson doesn’t fit what we need on offense. We already have 3-4 players who play slot.

Jefferson screams JMatt. No thanks.

1 hour ago, QBhunter58 said:

Lots of depth at the OT/OG positions guys... Just saying, you know how this team likes to build through the trenches, I wouldn't be surprised if Howie goes after a rotational guy like Vaitai.

OT: Josh Jones, Ezra Cleveland, Ben Bartch, Shadiq Charles, Matt Peart,, Robert Hunt (lots of flexible options)

Def not round 2. Im not opposed to wr again, but LB and CB...

Gerry is our only starter at LB. Im a bit concerned.

27 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

I think it's going to be very hard for the Eagles to get a legitimate X receiver in the 2nd round. Probably have to trade up.

Trade up since they didnt want to trade up yesterday

Just now, philafan4o8 said:

Trade up since they didnt want to trade up yesterday

Yeah. Gotta find a willing partner that's not asking for a king's ransom. We don't know what Atlanta asked when Howie talked to them, but it could've been far too much to say yes to.

2 hours ago, DBW said:

Who’s he playing against though?  Certainly not elite level talent.  it’s too early to call anyone a bust obviously so I’m not doing that.  But what I don’t like is that we took him over a guy who had an elite ab throwing him the ball in a better conference against better opponents.  I think that translates better to the nfl.  In fact it might speak more volume than if Reagor dominated and put up amazing stats vs lesser opponents.  I guess I’m tired of howie continually taking the not so obvious pick trying to prove he’s smarter than everybody.  I don’t buy the "he would have been taking a few picks later” BS he put out there.  Yeah he might have been but that doesn’t mean you have to get him.  Just My 2 cents.  

 

Playing against harder opponents or easier doesnt affect game speed.

Jefferson was playing in a tougher conference he also played 95% of his snaps in the slot with free releases against college nickel corners in soft zones rolled towards Chase while getting thrown to by a heisman winner and a 1st round RB to take up space as well.

Meanwhile reagor is facing teams top corners on the outside and defenses focus while getting passes from a  RB moved to first year  qb.

Its not as easy as looking at college production and college conference and making a projection.

Having said that Reagor is a good fit for what the eagles want and need, jefferson was redundant.