November 4, 20214 yr This is concerning. I'd like to see data like this for all countries' vaccine rollouts:
November 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You mention the suburbanites, but that's who both parties need to win. Not the people in flyover country and not the people in heart of cities. The suburbs tend to turn elections one way or the other. The question is, how do suburbanites see themselves? Do you really think they're offended when country folks are labeled as hillbillies? Or when people in cities are labeled as criminals? I don't think they care either way. In fact, I think they largely agree with both of those assessments. Suburbanites to say NYC, or Philly? Probably not. But in Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Georgia etc, yeah I think the perception that they're being ignored or arent important to a party absolutely has implications in voting patterns.
November 4, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: No longer do what? Universal pre-k, paid family leave and the child tax credit all apply to white people too (as did Obamacare, etc.). Their policies absolutely help poor white people. It's just that they mix woke stupidity into their messaging, which gives Republicans an in to act like Dems are only catering to minorities. We were talking about optics and messages here not policy. 13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Yeah that's not true at all. It just gets overshadowed by the other stupid BS they do. It is from a messaging and optics stand point which is what we were discussing. The fringes are the ones with the bullhorns these days. Formal party policy is another thing all together.
November 4, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: No longer do what? Universal pre-k, paid family leave and the child tax credit all apply to white people too (as did Obamacare, etc.). Their policies absolutely help poor white people. It's just that they mix woke stupidity into their messaging, which gives Republicans an in to act like Dems are only catering to minorities. Here's the problem with that: democrats ASSUME those policies are what "poor whites" want, but they haven't actually asked them. Poor rural voters aren't looking for those policies.
November 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: We were talking about optics and messages here not policy. It is from a messaging and optics stand point which is what we were discussing. But we're both agreeing with you on that part. The woke stupidity is self-defeating and always has been.
November 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: But we're both agreeing with you on that part. The woke stupidity is self-defeating and always has been. Right, and some of that is telling a chunk of the poor people that they are frothing at the mouth racist idiots.
November 4, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: We can only hope these scumbags will pay for this in 2022 and 2024: Ostracizing plague rats? Sounds good to me!
November 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: Right, and some of that is telling a chunk of the poor people that they are frothing at the mouth racist idiots. Yeah, no kidding. I assumed we both considered 'accuse everyone and everything of racism' as woke stupidity.
November 4, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You mention the suburbanites, but that's who both parties need to win. Not the people in flyover country and not the people in heart of cities. The suburbs tend to turn elections one way or the other. The question is, how do suburbanites see themselves? Do you really think they're offended when country folks are labeled as hillbillies? Or when people in cities are labeled as criminals? I don't think they care either way. In fact, I think they largely agree with both of those assessments. Well when every time you attempt to watch a national news show and there's democrats telling them they're racist just for being white it might alienate some of them. That and Fing with their kids like in VA. Nothing will motivate them more. Democrats need to stop the race baiting and pushing woke agendas and instead need to focus on their local issues and economic issues if they don't want to F up 2022 and 2024. Trump motivated a lot of people to go to the polls against him. IF, and that's a big if, Trump keeps his nose out of things there will be a lot of disappointed democrats. Because what they're pushing right now is driving away a lot of swing voters.
November 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Yeah, no kidding. I assumed we both considered 'accuse everyone and everything of racism' as woke stupidity. Look at the absolute sheet CNN is spewing about the Virginia election. Just ridiculous and horrible.
November 4, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, rambo said: Well when every time you attempt to watch a national news show and there's democrats telling them they're racist just for being white it might alienate some of them. That and Fing with their kids like in VA. Nothing will motivate them more. Democrats need to stop the race baiting and pushing woke agendas and instead need to focus on their local issues and economic issues if they don't want to F up 2022 and 2024. Trump motivated a lot of people to go to the polls against him. IF, and that's a big if, Trump keeps his nose out of things there will be a lot of disappointed democrats. Because what they're pushing right now is driving away a lot of swing voters. They should, but they can't. Just look at their reaction to VA. They literally couldn't go 24 hours without accusing every single person who voted for Youngkin of racism. Republicans elect the first black Lt. Governor in the state's history and dem talking heads still can't stop themselves from going on racial tirades. The problem is their entire platform is built around calling the other side racist. It's literally all they know.
November 4, 20214 yr 25 minutes ago, Kz! said: This is concerning. I'd like to see data like this for all countries' vaccine rollouts: Even if you saw that data, you wouldn’t comprehend it.
November 4, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Ostracizing plague rats? Sounds good to me! Van's had it right all along. Our blood lust won't be satiated until Biden sends his OSHA foot soldiers to forcibly shove those needles in all their tiny little peckers.
November 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DBW said: Even if you saw that data, you wouldn’t comprehend it. You're old and fat.
November 4, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, rambo said: Well when every time you attempt to watch a national news show and there's democrats telling them they're racist just for being white it might alienate some of them. That and Fing with their kids like in VA. Nothing will motivate them more. Democrats need to stop the race baiting and pushing woke agendas and instead need to focus on their local issues and economic issues if they don't want to F up 2022 and 2024. Trump motivated a lot of people to go to the polls against him. IF, and that's a big if, Trump keeps his nose out of things there will be a lot of disappointed democrats. Because what they're pushing right now is driving away a lot of swing voters. BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
November 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHA! Right? I had a hard time typing that because I want to believe the Republican party would be smart enough to move away from him but in reality they're just as stupid as the dems so the American political shitshow shall continue on!
November 4, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You mention the suburbanites, but that's who both parties need to win. Not the people in flyover country and not the people in heart of cities. The suburbs tend to turn elections one way or the other. The question is, how do suburbanites see themselves? Do you really think they're offended when country folks are labeled as hillbillies? Or when people in cities are labeled as criminals? I don't think they care either way. In fact, I think they largely agree with both of those assessments. They are sensitive about what’s being taught in schools whether it’s real or perceived.
November 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, rambo said: Right? I had a hard time typing that because I want to believe the Republican party would be smart enough to move away from him but in reality they're just as stupid as the dems so the American political shitshow shall continue on! Yea I mean, we all know politicians can be self-absorbed narcissists, but that dude took the attention-whoring to a whole other galaxy. Nobody's even close to that. Not a snowballs chance in hell he keeps quiet about the midterms, let alone the general in '24.
November 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yea I mean, we all know politicians can be self-absorbed narcissists, but that dude took the attention-whoring to a whole other galaxy. Nobody's even close to that. Not a snowballs chance in hell he keeps quiet about the midterms, let alone the general in '24.
November 4, 20214 yr 43 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Look at the absolute sheet CNN is spewing about the Virginia election. Just ridiculous and horrible. I'm sure it is, CNN is all race angle, all the time.
November 4, 20214 yr 44 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: They are sensitive about what’s being taught in schools whether it’s real or perceived. Which begs the question: if it's not really happening, then why don't the Dems just rail against it too? If they have nothing to lose, then why not placate the masses?
November 4, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Which begs the question: if it's not really happening, then why don't the Dems just rail against it too? If they have nothing to lose, then why not placate the masses? I don’t know, but I’m guessing they see it as just another cuckoo conspiracy theory.
November 4, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: Look at the absolute sheet CNN is spewing about the Virginia election. Just ridiculous and horrible. They aren’t really wrong though
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