4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

You forgot his favorite hobby. Driving up and down the lawn on his Big Wheel pretending he is riding a cool lawnmower.

His recess is More like this 

1 minute ago, DBW said:

His recess is More like this 

No, I saw the stock photo he posted. @Kz!really pretends to have a lawnmower.

I love how you idiots pivoted to just case numbers now that vaccines are the clear differentiator on death rates. Before vaccines it was "this virus hardly kills anybody!" now it's "we only talk about case numbers, lying by omission is my preferred propaganda tool"

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I love how you idiots pivoted to just case numbers now that vaccines are the clear differentiator on death rates. Before vaccines it was "this virus hardly kills anybody!" now it's "we only talk about case numbers, lying by omission is my preferred propaganda tool"

Its not the virus killing them its mostly the liabilities of the victims.

9 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I love how you idiots pivoted to just case numbers now that vaccines are the clear differentiator on death rates. Before vaccines it was "this virus hardly kills anybody!" now it's "we only talk about case numbers, lying by omission is my preferred propaganda tool"

...and since day #1 we've tried to get people to understand that case numbers are also directly tied to testing levels.  The bottom line is that case info is interesting if you put it in context but the three stats that are much more direct and clear are icu patients, deaths, and excess mortality.

I know that vaccinated people having milder cases and not dying in large numbers of a disease that has claimed 5 million worldwide, is too information for some to process.

There's like math and stuff.

On 11/1/2021 at 2:06 PM, VanHammersly said:

  They're doing a really sheety job of it.  The markets reaching record highs, there are jobs everywhere and it's never been easier to improve your station in life.

You're in a cult.  Seek help.

To be fair, "the average Joe" has very little money (aside from retirement savings) invested in the market and inflation is pummeling purchasing power. The average person in this country is feeling the crunch. You can say it's their own fault, and I'd largely agree, but the fact remains that most people will not see it this way. If you're making ~$65K a year but gas, housing, food, etc is all skyrocketing, you're feeling the pain.

What's interesting is this is normally something that the left would be sensitive towards, that their strength was ostensibly in empathizing with the poor and working class, but it seems as if they've largely abandoned this pretense. Biden made some remark towards this regarding gas prices when pressed on the issue at the climate conference, but it doesn't seem as if this is much of a concern to the left at large. I suppose this reflects his age. He spent his career in a time when issues like this were major talking points for the Democratic Party.

On 11/1/2021 at 2:44 PM, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

You watch too much news that pumps the doom and gloom. 

People are not "poorer" today overall. Wage growth has been phenomenal and shows no signs of weakening. 

The DXY is made up of a currency composite. The graph you posted shows that the dollar is up against a pool of the Euro, Pound, Yen, Frank, etc. You need to look at inflation as relative to goods. The most common measure is CPI:

https://www.bls.gov/cpi/

If you dig around, you'll notice energy costs are up almost 25%, meat is up 10%... overall, inflation is over 5%. That's really high by recent historical standards. It doesn't matter to normal people if their dollar now gets them 2 Euros this year vs 1 euro last year. What matters in tangible terms is their dollar buys half the amount of gas for their car and half the amount of bacon for breakfast. They feel poorer because they are poorer -- things are more expensive relative to their income than they used to be. They have less dollars left after buying "needs" for "wants."

As an aside, a few years ago on the old board I posited a scenario where in we saw high CPI style inflation but a stronger dollar vis-a-vis other currencies. Basically everyone prints to infinity with ZIRP/NIRP/YCC/etc and the USD is the tallest currency midget in the room, but when you look at the dollar vs commodities, goods and services its purchasing power collapses. At the time I thought the catalyst would be the entitlement system in the 2030-2040 time frame, but of course I couldn't imagine then that we would have a pandemic. I think this may have accelerated the hypothesis. The thing is, it doesn't matter how strong the dollar is vs other currencies when the inputs of goods and services -- oil, meat, grain, whatever -- are priced in dollars and of limited supply. You can't paper over hard inputs like this as you can with, say, collapsing home prices triggering a credit crisis. The Fed put on their Baghdad Bob costume and tried to convince everyone that this was transitory, but no one is really buying this.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

If you dig around, you'll notice energy costs are up almost 25%, meat is up 10%... overall, inflation is over 5%. That's really high by recent historical standards. It doesn't matter to normal people if their dollar now gets them 2 Euros this year vs 1 euro last year. What matters in tangible terms is their dollar buys half the amount of gas for their car and half the amount of bacon for breakfast.

If energy is up 25% (from depressed levels, mind you) how is it that their purchasing power has been halved? Same for meat being up 10% but bacon somehow costing twice as much as last year. I know you trumpbots were bad at math, but wow. Wow x4.

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

I know that vaccinated people having milder cases and not dying in large numbers of a disease that has claimed 5 million worldwide, is too information for some to process.

There's like math and stuff.

Yeah just too information for me to handle.

36 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If energy is up 25% (from depressed levels, mind you) how is it that their purchasing power has been halved? Same for meat being up 10% but bacon somehow costing twice as much as last year. I know you trumpbots were bad at math, but wow. Wow x4.

Dude, it's an example. A simple exercise to demonstrate the concept since he referenced DXY which has absolutely nothing to do with inflation but rather exchange rates.

7 minutes ago, TEW said:

Dude, it's an example. A simple exercise to demonstrate the concept since he referenced DXY which has absolutely nothing to do with inflation but rather exchange rates.

You literally started off the sentence with, "if you dig around..." but now suddenly it's just an example? With elite math skills like those, it's no wonder why you thought Trump was 90th percentile

13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You literally started off the sentence with, "if you dig around..." but now suddenly it's just an example? With elite math skills like those, it's no wonder why you thought Trump was 90th percentile

Jesus this dude is pathetic. 

2 hours ago, TEW said:

To be fair, "the average Joe" has very little money (aside from retirement savings) invested in the market and inflation is pummeling purchasing power. The average person in this country is feeling the crunch. You can say it's their own fault, and I'd largely agree, but the fact remains that most people will not see it this way. If you're making ~$65K a year but gas, housing, food, etc is all skyrocketing, you're feeling the pain.

What's interesting is this is normally something that the left would be sensitive towards, that their strength was ostensibly in empathizing with the poor and working class, but it seems as if they've largely abandoned this pretense. Biden made some remark towards this regarding gas prices when pressed on the issue at the climate conference, but it doesn't seem as if this is much of a concern to the left at large. I suppose this reflects his age. He spent his career in a time when issues like this were major talking points for the Democratic Party.

Dem politicians literally talk about poor and lower middle class issues all day. On top of that, they champion issues like raising the minimum wage and free childcare, issues that directly improve the lives of the lower classes. Meanwhile, Republicans position on helping the poor is "a rising tide lifts all boats”, which is exactly what happens with a booming stock market. Any conservative should be praising a hot market as a result that has massively positive implications for the poor (which, of course, is exactly what Republicans did during the Trump years). 

Oh that's good. 

Meanwhile, in moronland, making a vaccine better with less side-effects, is not a good thing.

39 minutes ago, TEW said:

Dude, it's an example. A simple exercise to demonstrate the concept since he referenced DXY which has absolutely nothing to do with inflation but rather exchange rates.

I wasn't responding to a post about inflation. I was responding to a post about "a weakened dollar".

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Meanwhile, in moronland, making a vaccine better with less side-effects, is not a good thing.

I literally said it was good, Admiral Alzheimer's.  

And buying power ought to be compared to pre-pandemic levels. Baselining to a period that was in the midst of the pandemic is not a good take, unless your goal is to generate eye grabbing headlines.

Just booked two appts for my kids next Wednesday to get their shots. F'ing finally! 

33 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Oh that's good. 

Tromethamine is in all versions of the Pfizer vaccine. They didn't add anything. It's an acid stabilizer.

17 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I wasn't responding to a post about inflation. I was responding to a post about "a weakened dollar".

Yes, weakened against what? He wasn't talking about exchange rates. He was talking about "average Joes." For average Joes, the dollar has weakened against consumer products.

51 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Dem politicians literally talk about poor and lower middle class issues all day. On top of that, they champion issues like raising the minimum wage and free childcare, issues that directly improve the lives of the lower classes. Meanwhile, Republicans position on helping the poor is "a rising tide lifts all boats”, which is exactly what happens with a booming stock market. Any conservative should be praising a hot market as a result that has massively positive implications for the poor (which, of course, is exactly what Republicans did during the Trump years). 

This. The idea that republicans somehow care about regular working people is laughable. They find hot button issues like masks , abortions, and gay people to dupe people into voting for the best interests of corporations and their political cronies. Considering the intelligence level of the "conservative" posts I read in CVON, is unsurprising that its so easy for them. 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Dem politicians literally talk about poor and lower middle class issues all day. On top of that, they champion issues like raising the minimum wage and free childcare, issues that directly improve the lives of the lower classes. Meanwhile, Republicans position on helping the poor is "a rising tide lifts all boats”, which is exactly what happens with a booming stock market. Any conservative should be praising a hot market as a result that has massively positive implications for the poor (which, of course, is exactly what Republicans did during the Trump years). 

They literally don't, and Virginia is a perfect example. They spend their time race hustling and focusing on whacko special interests like LGBTQ and environmental insanity. Unsurprisingly, soccer moms didn't want their children taught they were evil because of their skin before they got raped in a school bathroom by a tranny all while they were forced to spend $100 to fill up their gas tank because Democrats don't understand economics.