November 12, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: Nope, laughing at you for assuming that everyone who participated in a stupid chant during a riot is some sort of stone-cold evidence that they were all attempting to go on a murderous rampage does not mean I'm defending what they did. So, why do you think no one is charged with attempting to murder federal officials? Of course you should have a theory about that, because as you've said multiple times now, the evidence is there. I hate to keep harping on that point, but it seems significant. If it's obvious that they were trying to murder officials, why hasn't anyone been charged? If a crowd trespassed in your yard and home chanting "Hang Kzs overweight, extremely loose wife that has terrible taste in music!!! (Whatever that pigs name might be)", would you want the judge to go easy on them?
November 12, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, Boogyman said: If a crowd trespassed in your yard and home chanting "Hang Kzs overweight, extremely loose wife that has terrible taste in music!!! (Whatever that pigs name might be)", would you want the judge to go easy on them? Childhood trauma is a helluva thing.
November 12, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: There's no theory needed. A mob stormed the capital, severely beating cops, smashing windows, breaking down doors and screaming "Hang Mike Pence". They didn't get to Mike Pence or any other official, thanks to the Capital Police and a huge amount of luck. But obviously, the lives of Pence and every other official in that building's lives were in danger, and yet Trump did nothing. Despite Hogan begging the White House to send in the National Guard, they let it go on for hours. And for some absolutely insane reason, you're defending it. Van, I don't think you are going to get there at this point, so I'll help you out. No one has been charged with attempting to kill federal officials because there's no proof that was anyone's goal. A chant doesn't rise to that level. I know you've watched CNN and HBO docu-dramas on the subject so that might come as a blow, but that's why the scary insurrectionists weren't charged with those offenses. Let me know if you need to talk if you're having trouble coping with this revelation. I know it's tough.
November 12, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, Toastrel said: Wait - you're objecting to the NG being deployed two hours after the Capitol was breached in an attempt to stop the election certification? Oh right, you just want them deployed to clear squares for photo ops, and to put down BLM, the real threat to our nation. I’m not objecting at all. I just find it humorous how all the TDS people go from one extreme to the other when it comes to stopping riotous mobs, depending on which political side of the isle the riotous mob is on.
November 12, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, Boogyman said: If a crowd trespassed in your yard and home chanting "Hang Kzs overweight, extremely loose wife that has terrible taste in music!!! (Whatever that pigs name might be)", would you want the judge to go easy on them?
November 12, 20214 yr Just now, sameaglesfan said: Spot the CVON poster with unrepressed daddy issues challenge.
November 12, 20214 yr if a protest devolves into criminal behavior...property damage, looting, violence, etc..then it should be stopped. i know...a radical viewpoint, for sure.
November 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: I’m not objecting at all. I just find it humorous how all the TDS people go from one extreme to the other when it comes to stopping riotous mobs, depending on which political side of the isle the riotous mob is on. Or...in one case, the riot and violence was in Washington, DC, where the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government had the legal right and obligation to defend property. And in the other cases, the riots were in states and cities where the governors and mayors refused assistance from the Federal Government. Were those mayors and governors wrong? I think so. But equating the two situations is ridiculous, and you know better.
November 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Or...in one case, the riot and violence was in Washington, DC, where the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government had the legal right and obligation to defend property. And in the other cases, the riots were in states and cities where the governors and mayors refused assistance from the Federal Government. Were those mayors and governors wrong? I think so. But equating the two situations is ridiculous, and you know better. Those weren’t the arguments being made in here at the time. It wasn’t some nuanced legal bullsh**. It was pure pathos, and you know it.
November 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: But equating the two situations is ridiculous, and you know better.
November 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: if a protest devolves into criminal behavior...property damage, looting, violence, etc..then it should be stopped. i know...a radical viewpoint, for sure. I'll say! Quote NY AG challenges Trump threat to send in military: ‘The President... is not a dictator’ https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/ny-ag-challenges-trump-threat-to-send-in-military-the-president-is-not-a-dictator.html Quote Pritzker Says Trump Can’t Send Military To Illinois Unless He Asks, Compares President To A ‘Dictator’ https://www.wbez.org/stories/gov-jb-pritzker-says-trump-cant-send-military-to-illinois-unless-he-asks-comparing-president-to-a-dictator/38b91f56-fb59-42fd-b7b4-cd74d1a1a385 Quote 'Words of a Dictator:' Top Democrats Reject Trump's Threat to Deploy the Military Against Protesters 'I say thank you but no thank you,' New York's Cuomo said on CNN about Trump’s call to send military troops to the states https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/top-democrats-reject-trump-s-threat-to-deploy-the-military-against-protesters-1.8889828 https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-barr-used-loophole-deploy-national-guard-u-s-cities-ncna1236034
November 12, 20214 yr Just now, TEW said: Those weren’t the arguments being made in here at the time. It wasn’t some nuanced legal bullsh**. It was pure pathos, and you know it. It was exactly what I said then and now. There was no right for the Federal Government to override the governors and mayors and send in troops without consent. I'm not responsible for dumb arguments made by other people.
November 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: It was exactly what I said then and now. There was no right for the Federal Government to override the governors and mayors and send in troops without consent. I'm not responsible for dumb arguments made by other people. this x 1000
November 12, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Or...in one case, the riot and violence was in Washington, DC, where the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government had the legal right and obligation to defend property. And in the other cases, the riots were in states and cities where the governors and mayors refused assistance from the Federal Government. Were those mayors and governors wrong? I think so. But equating the two situations is ridiculous, and you know better.
November 12, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, Kz! said: Childhood trauma is a helluva thing. So not gonna answer. I didn't think so, you are a pretty weak little guy.
November 12, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, Kz! said: Spot the CVON poster with unrepressed daddy issues challenge. Spot the guy who uses any little nuance not to answer a simple question. Oh and I have zero "daddy issues". I just don't like you.
November 12, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, TEW said: I’m not objecting at all. I just find it humorous how all the TDS people go from one extreme to the other when it comes to stopping riotous mobs, depending on which political side of the isle the riotous mob is on. The two situations are not even close to being parallel.
November 12, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Spot the guy who uses any little nuance not to answer a simple question. Oh and I have zero "daddy issues". I just don't like you. Ehhh...
November 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: The two situations are not even close to being parallel. Well, that’s true — BLM caused far more deaths and damage.
November 12, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, vikas83 said: It was exactly what I said then and now. There was no right for the Federal Government to override the governors and mayors and send in troops without consent. I'm not responsible for dumb arguments made by other people. You, not anyone else in here. And you know it.
November 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: You, not anyone else in here. And you know it. You think I read, let alone commit to memory, the garbage that morons post in this cesspool? I'd rather keep my sanity. Trying to use the lack of federal response to the BLM riots as justification for Trump's inaction on January 6th is disingenuous and ridiculous.
November 12, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, TEW said: Well, that’s true — BLM caused far more deaths and damage. Again your analogy is terrible because the Guard was requested and that request was ignored by a crooked politician looking to become your favorite dictator.
November 12, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, vikas83 said: You think I read, let alone commit to memory, the garbage that morons post in this cesspool? I'd rather keep my sanity. Trying to use the lack of federal response to the BLM riots as justification for Trump's inaction on January 6th is disingenuous and ridiculous. Have I justified Trump’s inaction on January 6th? Or did I point out the blatant hypocrisy of people who screamed peaceful protest all summer long as the country burned and called anyone who even hinted at using force to stop the riots a Natsee, go full iron fist the moment the political actors were flipped?
November 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: Have I justified Trump’s inaction on January 6th? Or did I point out the blatant hypocrisy of people who screamed peaceful protest all summer long as the country burned and called anyone who even hinted at using force to stop the riots a Natsee, go full iron fist the moment the political actors were flipped? Of all the dumb things you've said, this one's roughly in the 90th percentile
November 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, TEW said: Have I justified Trump’s inaction on January 6th? Or did I point out the blatant hypocrisy of people who screamed peaceful protest all summer long as the country burned and called anyone who even hinted at using force to stop the riots a Natsee, go full iron fist the moment the political actors were flipped? No. You just made a terrible analogy. The situations you are trying to compare are incompatible with each other.
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