November 27, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DBW said: No vaccine on the planet will 100% prevent anything. And yet some people claim they do. Hence, "work" depends on how you define "work."
November 27, 20214 yr Just an fyi, ate Thanksgiving dinner with my sister last night. She does marketing for the NIH, lives in Alexandria, VA, and is dialed in with that whole crowd. She’s a blue dog liberal Democrat, thoroughly brainwashed at the University of North Carolina, and even she is adamant that the Federal mandate is unconstitutional, and will be thrown out by the courts. Says it’s common knowledge up there, and the whole idea was just to threaten as long as they can to get as many people vaccinated as possible before it’s tossed. So there you have it.
November 27, 20214 yr Just now, lynched1 said: You're like a perpetual emotional machine. 😆 This treatment isnt even close I’m not wasting emotion on you trust me. Don’t flatter yourself so much. like Kkz, you’re just pure entertainment for me and I love the self owns you guys routinely do. this "treatment” as you call it, is extremely effective at preventing death. But you just wanna play webster and change the definition of things to fit your needs.
November 27, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: And yet some people claim they do. Hence, "work" depends on how you define "work." I would agree with that as would the cdc who changed the definition because of idiots out there that can’t comprehend it. They put it in Lehman’s terms and people still can’t grasp it. Maybe if they used trumps Acct and tweeted "Covid bad, vaxx good. Live mostly, die not a lot” people would get it
November 27, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, TEW said: Did I say reduce, or did I say prevent? Who have I straw manned? Do seatbelts prevent deaths?
November 27, 20214 yr Just now, DBW said: I’m not wasting emotion on you trust me. Don’t flatter yourself so much. Your posting betrays you. You flatter me. 1 minute ago, DBW said: this "treatment” as you call it, is extremely effective at preventing death. But you just wanna play webster and change the definition of things to fit your needs. There is no proof of that. Im not the one changing the definition when the treatment failed to fit the definition of a vaccine.
November 27, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Just an fyi, ate Thanksgiving dinner with my sister last night. She does marketing for the NIH, lives in Alexandria, VA, and is dialed in with that whole crowd. She’s a blue dog liberal Democrat, thoroughly brainwashed at the University of North Carolina, and even she is adamant that the Federal mandate is unconstitutional, and will be thrown out by the courts. Says it’s common knowledge up there, and the whole idea was just to threaten as long as they can to get as many people vaccinated as possible before it’s tossed. So there you have it. So you’re sister is a qAtard?
November 27, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Do seatbelts prevent deaths? They keep the body contained within the vehicle most of the time.
November 27, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Your posting betrays you. You flatter me. There is no proof of that. Im not the one changing the definition when the treatment failed to fit the definition of a vaccine. It didn’t and doesn’t fail to fit the definition. You’re failing to acknowledge the facts. Big difference. You can’t want it to not be true, but wanting doesn’t make it so.
November 27, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Do seatbelts prevent deaths? Seatbelts, guards on a chainsaw, railings near the cliff of the Grand Canyon, the label on bleach that says not for consumption…..all of these things are safety mechanisms. Like the vaccine, They won’t prevent death in 100% of the cases, but I can’t find anyone that would willingly drink bleach, run off the edge of the Grand Canyon, juggle a chainsaw, or even drive without their seat belt. It’s amazing how the freedums only apply to things you’d never do anyway but not to Covid when you really can’t Avoid it at this point.
November 27, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, TEW said: No. Then by this logic, neither do air bags or crumple zones, and while we're at it, I guess birth control and condoms don't prevent pregnancies. Shoot, I'm not sure why we even have the word in our lexicon, because if something doesn't prevent an outcome 100% of the time, then we can't technically classify it as prevention. Ya, that makes perfect sense, good call.
November 27, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Then by this logic, neither do air bags or crumple zones, and while we're at it, I guess birth control and condoms don't prevent pregnancies. Shoot, I'm not sure why we even have the word in our lexicon, because if something doesn't prevent an outcome 100% of the time, then we can't technically clarify it as prevention. Ya, that makes perfect sense, good call. If it weren’t the the firmament, We would all float away.
November 27, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, TEW said: Who have I straw manned? There is no significant number of people claiming vaccines prevent infection or transmission. Hell by a WIDE margin there are more people arguing that they don't reduce death, infection, and transmission so by that logic they "work" a helluva lot better than they say. But yes, the vaccines don't "work" in a way that no one is arguing they do and that no other vaccine works. They do however reduce risk death, hospitalization, community spread and transmission, again like every other vaccine available. That is a very clear example of a straw-man argument.
November 27, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Then by this logic, neither do air bags or crumple zones, and while we're at it, I guess birth control and condoms don't prevent pregnancies. Shoot, I'm not sure why we even have the word in our lexicon, because if something doesn't prevent an outcome 100% of the time, then we can't technically clarify it as prevention. Ya, that makes perfect sense, good call. Hey, if you want to use the word loosely, that's fine, but I was using it in the strict sense of the word because there are people who think the vaccine literally prevents death, infection, transmission, etc.
November 27, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: There is no significant number of people claiming vaccines prevent infection or transmission. Hell by a WIDE margin there are more people arguing that they don't reduce death, infection, and transmission so by that logic they "work" a helluva lot better than they say. But yes, the vaccines don't "work" in a way that no one is arguing they do and that no other vaccine works. They do however reduce risk death, hospitalization, community spread and transmission, again like every other vaccine available. That is a very clear example of a straw-man argument. You're a doctor if I remember correctly, right? I'd suggest that your personal social circle is biasing your view of the broader social body.
November 27, 20214 yr Just now, TEW said: Hey, if you want to use the word loosely, that's fine, but I was using it in the strict sense of the word because there are people who think the vaccine literally prevents death, infection, transmission, etc. Because it literally does, in at least 95% of instances. You are literally too stupid to insult.
November 27, 20214 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Because it literally does, in at least 95% of instances. You are literally too stupid to insult. No, it does not literally prevent death. It literally reduces your chances of death.
November 27, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You are literally too stupid to insult. That's what you're still going with? Just because no one understands your desire to lick the windows doesnt make you the smart one.
November 27, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, TEW said: Hey, if you want to use the word loosely, that's fine, but I was using it in the strict sense of the word because there are people who think the vaccine literally prevents death, infection, transmission, etc. So you pick this time to be literal when half the stuff you post is anything but?
November 27, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, TEW said: You're a doctor if I remember correctly, right? I'd suggest that your personal social circle is biasing your view of the broader social body. Yeah I am slightly disadvantaged here in having friends and colleagues who know what the hell they're talking about. OK then how about we do this, point to one person on this board who has claimed they completely prevent spread. One. You've got all sorts of loonies here and in the blog posting craziness all the time about COVID. Shouldn't be that hard to find just one example.
November 27, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, TEW said: No, it does not literally prevent death. It literally reduces your chances of death. There are absolutely infected people who would've died had they not been vaccinated. For them, the vaccine literally prevented their death. Same with people surviving accidents thanks to seatbelts. You're a moron of epic proportions.
November 27, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, TEW said: You're a doctor if I remember correctly, right? I'd suggest that your personal social circle is biasing your view of the broader social body. Doctors tend to surround themselves with smart people. I’d trust D7 before I trust your Twatter sources who surround themselves with millions of mindless twats.
November 27, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: There are absolutely infected people who would've died had they not been vaccinated. For them, the vaccine literally prevented their death. You're a moron of epic proportions. He’s from the 1+1=5 crowd for sure.
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