December 7, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, lynched1 said: Your family must suck. Ours dont give a **** who is and who isn't. Not giving a crap about others is family thing with you? That tracks.
December 7, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Not giving a crap about others is family thing with you? That tracks. No, he didn't say that. You're twisting his words and you know it.
December 7, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Procus said: No, he didn't say that. You're twisting his words and you know it. But what he said was fine with you. You suck too.
December 7, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Toastrel said: But what he said was fine with you. You suck too. Yah, I suck for not hating on my family. You're great for hating on yours. What a loser you are! Your avatar sucks too!
December 7, 20214 yr I think this is why a lot of folks are hesitant to take these vaccines. We simply don't know if the risks outweigh the benefits for younger, healthy adults. We're seeing that now as countries are placing new warnings months and months after the vax campaigns started:
December 7, 20214 yr I cancelled my booster appointment. Not because I don't think it would benefit me. I am pretty sure I have a cold, and the PITA is doing the right thing since my life needs to be around people. Will be going for another pcr test at lunch. Working from home until I get a negative or get to be symptom free. At least I don't have to get dressed! Even for the test, it's at the drive thru. Young IT guy unvaccinated has been out since last week, this is day 2 he is unable to take calls, so he is pretty sick but he is at least seeking treatment. I was at a funeral last week, so not sure where I caught whatever it is I have. I am glad it is not worse. I have another funeral Saturday-another reason I'm going for a test. I won't be able to attend if positive. So, here's hoping I can go.
December 7, 20214 yr my SIL's MIL has a pre existing heart issue & suffered a heart attack while in the hospital with covid a couple days ago. because of her heart condition, they weren't able to give her the "normal" covid treatment drugs. it's not looking good for her.
December 7, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, DiPros said: I cancelled my booster appointment. Not because I don't think it would benefit me. I am pretty sure I have a cold, and the PITA is doing the right thing since my life needs to be around people. Will be going for another pcr test at lunch. Working from home until I get a negative or get to be symptom free. At least I don't have to get dressed! Even for the test, it's at the drive thru. Young IT guy unvaccinated has been out since last week, this is day 2 he is unable to take calls, so he is pretty sick but he is at least seeking treatment. I was at a funeral last week, so not sure where I caught whatever it is I have. I am glad it is not worse. I have another funeral Saturday-another reason I'm going for a test. I won't be able to attend if positive. So, here's hoping I can go. Glad to hear it. Hope that cold clears up soon!
December 7, 20214 yr More great new from Omicron: It appears to be more contagious and way less lethal. Amazing. This variant just ended the pandemic.
December 7, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Kz! said: More great new from Omicron: It appears to be more contagious and way less lethal. Amazing. This variant just ended the pandemic. I'm on board with you on this one. I don't trust a single source you post, but I'm certainly hoping your broken clocks are right this time.
December 7, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I'm on board with you on this one. I don't trust a single source you post, but I'm certainly hoping your broken clocks are right this time. The thing about no protection from previous infection is false, there is 3x better chance of reinfection they say which = about a 2% chance
December 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: The thing about no protection from previous infection is false, there is 3x better chance of reinfection they say which = about a 2% chance Like I said, it's Kz post, so I just assume there's at least some amount of complete bull sheet in there, but there's plenty of reasons to hope and, from what I can gather, at least some data to suggest, that Omicron could improve the situation and may even be a viable path out of the pandemic.
December 7, 20214 yr Way too early to use mortality rates when we're still only two weeks out from when SA first sounded the alarm. Any signals in omicron caused mortality wouldn't show up for another 2-4 weeks as it begins to spread. Highly unlikely that omicron wouldn't provide immunity against reinfection from itself in the future. That's not the important question when we don't yet know if omicron is A) a direct competitor to delta and B) if omicron infection provides immunity to delta. The problem, as I keep saying, is that SA has too many confounding factors. Huge disparity in vaccine coverage by age, a larger percentage of theit population is apparently younger, a decent chunk of their population is immunocompromised, etc. Also, they literally just recovered from a delta wave so it will take time to delineate the case data. It's not like this omicron wave popped up in a country that hadn't seen many cases in weeks. Let's at least wait for neutralization test results before declaring it a mild cold or the end of the world.
December 7, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Way too early to use mortality rates when we're still only two weeks out from when SA first sounded the alarm. Any signals in omicron caused mortality wouldn't show up for another 2-4 weeks as it begins to spread. Highly unlikely that omicron wouldn't provide immunity against reinfection from itself in the future. That's not the important question when we don't yet know if omicron is A) a direct competitor to delta and B) if omicron infection provides immunity to delta. The problem, as I keep saying, is that SA has too many confounding factors. Huge disparity in vaccine coverage by age, a larger percentage of theit population is apparently younger, a decent chunk of their population is immunocompromised, etc. Also, they literally just recovered from a delta wave so it will take time to delineate the case data. It's not like this omicron wave popped up in a country that hadn't seen many cases in weeks. Let's at least wait for neutralization test results before declaring it a mild cold or the end of the world. Omicron though has been around for at least a month if not more
December 7, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Omicron though has been around for at least a month if not more We need a few more weeks to be sure but it looks pretty good right now.
December 7, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Omicron though has been around for at least a month if not more Same with every other variant. Look at the lag from initial emergence / detection in delta until it became dominant in India. This is why we can't jump to any conclusions yet based on limited data. We've already learned that lesson. We still need more data. Weeks/months of it, not days.
December 7, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Same with every other variant. Look at the lag from initial emergence / detection in delta until it became dominant in India. This is why we can't jump to any conclusions yet based on limited data. We've already learned that lesson. We still need more data. Weeks/months of it, not days. Yep, just to be on the safe side I'm going to stay inside, watch sports, drink beer, and play xbox. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
December 7, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, Gannan said: Yep, just to be on the safe side I'm going to stay inside, watch sports, drink beer, and play xbox. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make. all joking aside, omicron hasn't impacted our travel plans this year and into next year. That may change if we start to see a ton of breakthrough infections running alongside increasing hospitalizations in SA and other countries where it's been spreading.
December 7, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, Gannan said: Yep, just to be on the safe side I'm going to stay inside, watch sports, drink beer, and play xbox. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make. That's what I've been doing the past few months. It's really not as bad as it sounds.
December 7, 20214 yr First tests are in, 40x reduction in nAbs in those with 2 shots against omicron.
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