December 3, 20214 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Yeah, I really think we're going to have to get more serious about the level of testing we're using if we're really gonna clamp down on this during the wint.er Agreed 100%. Unfortunately, we seem to be even worse at testing capacity and coverage than we are at vaccination coverage.
December 3, 20214 yr New Harvard study declares winner between Pfizer and Moderna vaccines A team of researchers from Harvard Medical School and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of public health recently published a study claiming the Moderna vaccine is slightly better than Pfizer. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/584071-new-harvard-study-declares-winner-between-pfizer
December 3, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: New Harvard study declares winner between Pfizer and Moderna vaccines A team of researchers from Harvard Medical School and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of public health recently published a study claiming the Moderna vaccine is slightly better than Pfizer. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/584071-new-harvard-study-declares-winner-between-pfizer They only included Moderna and Pfizer because J&J is already far better than both.
December 3, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, Paul852 said: They only included Moderna and Pfizer because J&J is already far better than both. J&J is for poor people.
December 3, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, Paul852 said: They only included Moderna and Pfizer because J&J is already far better than both. No it's not. And if you got J&J before, you should be getting a Moderna or Pfizer booster stat.
December 3, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: No it's not. And if you got J&J before, you should be getting a Moderna or Pfizer booster stat. It was a joke. Was that really not clear?
December 3, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: It was a joke. Was that really not clear? I'm late to the thread. I missed it.
December 3, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, toolg said: I'm late to the thread. I missed it. It's pretty obvious J&J doesn't stand up to the mRNA vaccines.
December 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Yeah, I think we're going to have to get more serious about the level of testing we're using if we're really gonna clamp down on this during the winter Not if it turns out the the new variant only results in mild cases which is where things are pointing at the moment (subject to change of course).
December 3, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Not if it turns out the the new variant only results in mild cases which is where things are pointing at the moment (subject to change of course). I do think that a variant that proves to be more transmissible but less virulent could be a blessing in disguise that helps us reach herd immunity. In any case, more accurate testing procedures would be an improvement.
December 3, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I do think that a variant that proves to be more transmissible but less virulent could be a blessing in disguise that helps us reach herd immunity. In any case, more accurate testing procedures would be an improvement. that's when it's time to start throwing omicron parties like the chickenpox parties back in the day.
December 3, 20214 yr Reminder that if it's much more transmissible, it needs to both be less virulent by a larger measure and also confer immunity against delta for this to be considered an overall improvement in our situation. Currently we're seeing hospitalizations spike in Gauteng similar to rates seen to previous waves, so the net risk may not be any lower based on the limited data we have so far.
December 3, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I do think that a variant that proves to be more transmissible but less virulent could be a blessing in disguise that helps us reach herd immunity. In any case, more accurate testing procedures would be an improvement. Yes, better accuracy is good. Things can get strange with the testing levels though in terms of how to use the results. Over here we just had a big spike in the number of positive cases and of course the media ran with that to start. Clearer heads then pointed out that the level of testing just spiked because the testing guidelines had changed and meant significantly more people were being tested. It turned out the rate of positive tests had actually decreased over the same two week span which saw the spike in the confirmed cases. Overall it does look like we are trending up a bit for hospitalized patients. Nothing major but a mini upward trend over the last two weeks. Going to be interesting to see what this new variant does.
December 3, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, Kz! said: Sputnik vaccine is better than all American made ones.
December 3, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: my wife's employer, also private, actually supplies their entire workforce with at-home saliva test kits that they submit each week and requires vaccinations for all employees. With all the concern about Covid, you would think the first thing the authorities would do is promote frequent at home testing at will by anyone who wants to do so.
December 3, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Overall it does look like we are trending up a bit for hospitalized patients. Nothing major but a mini upward trend over the last two weeks. Going to be interesting to see what this new variant does. I would imagine that in Sweden, this time of the year there would typically be an uptick in hospitalized patients with viral infections like the flu. Wonder how this year's numbers compare to historical averages for early December.
December 3, 20214 yr Imagine that - Pfizer doesn't want the vaccine distributed in countries where the manufacturer is not shielded from civil liability. Why is that?
December 3, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, Procus said: I would imagine that in Sweden, this time of the year there would typically be an uptick in hospitalized patients with viral infections like the flu. Wonder how this year's numbers compare to historical averages for early December. Don't know but we've had a ton of colds and flu and kids have been hit hard with that. The light year last year for the normal stuff due to the pandemic is causing more trouble this year as one would expect.
December 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: that's when it's time to start throwing omicron parties like the chickenpox parties back in the day. I think we need to revisit the wisdom of those chickenpox parties... Does it result in more shingles cases later in life?
December 3, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, Procus said: With all the concern about Covid, you would think the first thing the authorities would do is promote frequent at home testing at will by anyone who wants to do so. Good thing President Biden is working on that.
December 3, 20214 yr I have a very vague recollection of having chickenpox as a kid, but don't remember feeling particularly crappy. I hear shingles suck major ass though.
December 3, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, toolg said: I think we need to revisit the wisdom of those chickenpox parties... Does it result in more shingles cases later in life? He's referring to stuff prior to the varicella vaccine, like when we were kids. Anyone doing it now is legitimately stupid. My kids got the vaccine, so they'll never get chicken pox and thus also never get shingles and won't need the shingles vaccine.
December 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: With all the concern about Covid, you would think the first thing the authorities would do is promote frequent at home testing at will by anyone who wants to do so. Probably cost prohibitive. The wife's employer is comfortably able to accommodate this. I'd imagine many other employers would have difficulty.
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