December 17, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Ipiggles said: This is really overblown. I and my family/friends were some of the biggest Trump haters on the planet, and not a single one of us ever expressed hesitation to get the vaccine. But, yeah, keep posting those Twitter randos if it helps distract from the matter at hand.
December 17, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: tWitTeR rAnDoS Republican anti-vaxxers listened to Cuomo and Omar and decided not to take the vaccine. Seems legit.
December 17, 20214 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Republican anti-vaxxers listened to Cuomo and Omar and decided not to take the vaccine. Seems legit. tWitTeR rAnDoS
December 17, 20214 yr One of the biggest crimes in this whole Covid situation is the suppression and lack of discussion of available treatments. https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed&utm_term=2021-12-16 Studies Proving Generic Drugs Can Fight COVID Are Being Suppressed
December 17, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Procus said: One of the biggest crimes in this whole Covid situation is the suppression and lack of discussion of available treatments. https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed&utm_term=2021-12-16 Studies Proving Generic Drugs Can Fight COVID Are Being Suppressed So, the vaccine is rolled out too fast, but why can't we take horse paste today!?!?!? Sound medical position.
December 17, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: One of the biggest crimes in this whole Covid situation is the suppression and lack of discussion of available treatments. https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed&utm_term=2021-12-16 Studies Proving Generic Drugs Can Fight COVID Are Being Suppressed So according to this article, molnupiravir was forced through despite a RCT of 1400+ patients that showed a reduction in hospitalization and death of about 7%, but Fluvoxamine, an SSRI that should have no logical mechanism of action that should affect a virus, is being suppressed because of a RCT of 140 patients who had an 8% decrease in symptoms of shortness of breath? Literally the final paragraph of the study they're quoting: "Conclusions and Relevance In this preliminary study of adult outpatients with symptomatic COVID-19, patients treated with fluvoxamine, compared with placebo, had a lower likelihood of clinical deterioration over 15 days. However, the study is limited by a small sample size and short follow-up duration, and determination of clinical efficacy would require larger randomized trials with more definitive outcome measures." anything to try and prove your narrative. Nice try though Black Beauty.
December 17, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Toastrel said: So, the vaccine is rolled out too fast, but why can't we take horse paste today!?!?!? Sound medical position. The topic of treatment is separate and apart from prevention. You won't find too many people on this thread who discount the importance of effective treatment after infection, although there are a few who feel treatment options should be limited to the vaccinated. You can make argument that Ivermectin is not an effective element of a treatment program, but that doesn't address the issue of inadequate dissemination of treatment options and information about treatment.
December 17, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: The topic of treatment is separate and apart from prevention. You won't find too many people on this thread who discount the importance of effective treatment after infection, although there are a few who feel treatment options should be limited to the vaccinated. You can make argument that Ivermectin is not an effective element of a treatment program, but that doesn't address the issue of inadequate dissemination of treatment options and information about treatment. No one has said that. I and others support allowing insurance companies to deny reimbursement for treatment of unvaccinated people (who are eligible to be vaccinated and choose not to be). That doesn't mean "treatment options should be limited to the vaccinated." It means unvaccinated people will have to pay for it themselves, or find charity, etc. It's not my fault if anti-vax clowns also tend to be poor.
December 17, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: The topic of treatment is separate and apart from prevention. You won't find too many people on this thread who discount the importance of effective treatment after infection, although there are a few who feel treatment options should be limited to the vaccinated. You can make argument that Ivermectin is not an effective element of a treatment program, but that doesn't address the issue of inadequate dissemination of treatment options and information about treatment. Yes. Along with food and clean drinking water.
December 17, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, vikas83 said: No one has said that. I and others support allowing insurance companies to deny reimbursement for treatment of unvaccinated people (who are eligible to be vaccinated and choose not to be). That doesn't mean "treatment options should be limited to the vaccinated." It means unvaccinated people will have to pay for it themselves, or find charity, etc. It's not my fault if anti-vax clowns also tend to be poor. It is also hardly surprising that products not intended for use in fighting viri, or treating the symptoms of COVID, are not getting much attention; ie, serious studies. The fact that anybody takes look at horse dewormer seriously, or malaria treatments, is pretty amazing - also very limited. Probably no 25,000 patient studies using Pop-Tarts as treatment, either.
December 17, 20214 yr 55 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: So according to this article, molnupiravir was forced through despite a RCT of 1400+ patients that showed a reduction in hospitalization and death of about 7%, but Fluvoxamine, an SSRI that should have no logical mechanism of action that should affect a virus, is being suppressed because of a RCT of 140 patients who had an 8% decrease in symptoms of shortness of breath? Literally the final paragraph of the study they're quoting: "Conclusions and Relevance In this preliminary study of adult outpatients with symptomatic COVID-19, patients treated with fluvoxamine, compared with placebo, had a lower likelihood of clinical deterioration over 15 days. However, the study is limited by a small sample size and short follow-up duration, and determination of clinical efficacy would require larger randomized trials with more definitive outcome measures." anything to try and prove your narrative. Nice try though Black Beauty. Yup. Meanwhile paxlovid has literally made headlines globally over the past few weeks for its remarkable effectiveness as a treatment option, even surpassing mAbs which appear less effective against omicron, but Bronco Billy over here is still queefing about treatment options being suppressed.
December 17, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yup. Meanwhile paxlovid has literally made headlines globally over the past few weeks for its remarkable effectiveness as a treatment option, even surpassing mAbs which appear less effective against omicron, but Bronco Billy over here is still queefing about treatment options being suppressed. It's almost as if antivirals are the best treatment options for viruses. Must be a conspiracy.
December 17, 20214 yr Whatever happened to Hydroxychloroquine? Feels like a trivia question in the same pile with Right Said Fred.
December 17, 20214 yr Democrat leadership under a pandemic: Trump didn't even have the advantage of the vaccines he created and he never let it get this high.
December 17, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Toty said: Am I an OG? When I was in 9th garde I bought a role playing game called "Megatraveller" at a game story in the mall. I hought it was cool cause it was in space but I vouldn'y get any one to play it with me so I wrote a program in BASIC on my Apple IIe that created characters with their lame ass randim seed and also ships and stuff. Now I download pdf versions of textbooks to read for pleasure and I also screw around with Python trying to come up with a horse betting system I can't cALL myself an OG but if one of you would nominate me me thhatd be awesome An original gay? Yes. No, I still won't nominate you.
December 17, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Toty said: Am I an OG? When I was in 9th garde I bought a role playing game called "Megatraveller" at a game story in the mall. I hought it was cool cause it was in space but I vouldn'y get any one to play it with me so I wrote a program in BASIC on my Apple IIe that created characters with their lame ass randim seed and also ships and stuff. Now I download pdf versions of textbooks to read for pleasure and I also screw around with Python trying to come up with a horse betting system I can't cALL myself an OG but if one of you would nominate me me thhatd be awesome I wrote a bunch of stuff like that in BASIC on the same computer I inherited from a cousin I barely knew. I remember making a Pong clone for sure in 6th grade.
December 17, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, Toty said: respect pong is how you earn your wings Werd. I basically earned the teardrop tattoo under my eye with that one simple game.
December 17, 20214 yr Time to stop focusing on cases Among the vaccinated and focus on hospitalizations which are far below last year at least here but that fact gets buried along the constant case numbers. The unvaxxed have had a year now to do the proper thing. I really hope the dem politicians grasp this soon or they are going to get destroyed next year.
December 17, 20214 yr 39 minutes ago, Toty said: I earned mine getting rejected by girls Yeah we know
December 17, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, greenskeeper said: This is exactly right, Eventually the people that think you can stop the spread will realize this.
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