January 4, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: OK, got it. So it's the official position of CVON blue-haired crew that VAERS data is useless and we can only trust government data on the subject or maybe the drug companies self-reported data like when they said the vaccines were 100% effective against infection. Great. Don't care enjoy the unlimited jabs, ****. No the data is great when you know how to interpret it, But considering you rednecks believed that a Russian satellite hacked the voting machines from an underground server in Mexico, there’s no hope in explaining this stuff to you.
January 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I actually clean up in the league. Out of the 27 person field, there's like 7 good players. https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/ Get help. I knew there was a reason you were stuck in an endless cycle of being a loser.
January 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DBW said: No the data is great when you know how to interpret it, But considering you rednecks believed that’s Russian satellite hacked the voting machines from an underground server in Mexico, there’s no hope in explaining this stuff to you. lol this dude is all over the place.
January 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: I actually clean up in the league. Out of the 27 person field, there's like 7 good players. So between the 27 of you, cleaning up means you won what, $3 and an I ❤️ Anal bumper sticker.
January 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/ Get help. I knew there was a reason you were stuck in an endless cycle of being a loser. Thanks, but I think I'll continue to clean up in my poker league, daddy issues.
January 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DBW said: So between the 27 of you, cleaning up means you won what, $3 and an I ❤️ Anal bumper sticker. The bumper sticker is complimentary for joining the league.
January 4, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: Thanks, but I think I'll continue to clean up in my poker league, daddy issues. Later on when you are selling your zero turn for 50 bucks and giving 3 dollar knob jobs to pay your bookie, don't say I didnt try to help.
January 4, 20223 yr my employer is going back to mask requirements...even for the vaxxed. good move...i work with some real uggos!
January 4, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Kz! said: I actually clean up in the league. Out of the 27 person field, there's like 7 good players. I bet you do. That's an awful lot of Alberts doing an awful lot of clapping.
January 4, 20223 yr 44 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Nice try, but I have a busy day. Fish elsewhere, troll. Why are you engaging with him? Take your own sound advice and stop.
January 4, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: Stop the count! 🤣 whose gonna tell them Biden won and has been president for over a year?
January 4, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Why are you engaging with him? Take your own sound advice and stop. "Oh no, someone posted actual VAERS data, just ignore him!" Not everyone is a complete **** like you. IDK, just a thought.
January 4, 20223 yr The media is so bad, headlines all over ,1 millions cases yesterday, new record!!. This is because of a huge backlog due to holiday and the weekend
January 4, 20223 yr Our pal David Bahnsen crafts a most worthwhile regular missive offering analysis of markets, politics, and, yes, pandemics — it’s called DC Today (and why you’re not subscribing yet is a mystery). Anyway, yesterday’s filing has a boatload of wisdom about the substantially expanded "disconnect between the population at-large and the media” when it comes to the realities of the coronavirus and its latest Omicron variant. Here’s the chunk: COVID I talked above in the "Markets” section on the disconnect between the market and the media around COVID, something that has been true for over 18 months now. But what is apparent to me with Omicron is that the disconnect between the population at-large and the media has expanded substantially, as well. The public appetite for continued de-normalization is substantially diminished, and changing policies, loosening restrictions, goalpost moving about quarantines, continued massive crowds at big events, and huge push back at the mere [insane] suggestion of closing schools all point to this improved cultural dynamic. This is, to me, the heart of the matter for the U.S. regarding omicron (though I would still read all the bullets below): Our cases are 98% of what they were last December, yet deaths were 26% of what they were. It strikes me as really noteworthy that the New York Times can post this, and somehow the top numbers are supposed to be more notable to us than the bottom numbers???? Please note the extraordinary reality of what the New York Times own postings are showing . . . They are not merely showing that deaths are not going up in nearly the same proportion as cases (as was the case with the Delta variant) . . . They are showing that deaths are actually DECLINING with omicron, even as cases are skyrocketing. This is true domestically and even more true globally. That scenario of a whole lot of people getting sick for a day or two (if they have any symptoms at all), but not seeing tragedy befall at any systemic level, thereby adding immunity throughout the society, is playing out entirely. More and more epidemiologists are calling it out that way as well. South Africa, where Omicron basically came from, lifted their restrictions and curfews and announced that Omicron has "already receded.” They announced "ample capacity” in their hospital system for any health services and the head of their Medical Research Council declared the omicron wave over (calling it a "flash flood, not a wave”). Note from the chart below that cases themselves have already started to collapse, and six weeks after the case escalation began the deaths never did increase. This can no longer be looked at as a "just wait – those deaths are coming!” moment … The deaths never came, and the cases are clearly on their way out. The UK released data pointing to substantially lower hospitalizations happening from Omicron. Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, reiterated today that "omicron was clearly milder” and that conditions did not require new restrictions. Scientists from Oxford and government officials confirmed both lower hospitalizations and much shorter hospitalization stays, with virtually no fatalities from the heavily vaccinated population. So quarantining is now requested for five days after an asymptomatic positive test versus the prior ten days. Travel restrictions with Africa have been lifted. Schools are (for the most part) not being closed. The amount of virus detected in a positive test to be deemed relevant has finally been re-scored by the NFL and NBA. And former leading mask proponents are now affirming that cloth masks are really not useful at all. It’s been quite a week. One of the most important elements in the present discussion is national health leaders (Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Dr. Monica Gandhi, etc.) – people that some may love and some may hate – all freely admitting that a massive amount of the hospitalizations we do see for COVID right now have nothing to do with COVID (i.e. "incidental” hospitalizations where one is at the hospital for an unrelated situation and happens to test positive). My research indicates this has been some numerical factor since mid-2020 but I admit it was not as big of a factor as some anecdotal evidence at first suggested. However, a barrage of medical experts are now saying their COVID "hospitalizations” now are not COVID related – from 50-70% in some cases. The telling number is ICU stays, which flat out have not gone up, period. ICUs and Hospitalizations had a strong correlation a year ago – that has fallen apart now. This is overwhelming support for the case so many are making about omicron.
January 4, 20223 yr On 1/3/2022 at 9:50 AM, we_gotta_believe said: Just a mild cold... Why can't the little guy grasp this: 22 minutes ago, The_Omega said: One of the most important elements in the present discussion is national health leaders (Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Dr. Monica Gandhi, etc.) – people that some may love and some may hate – all freely admitting that a massive amount of the hospitalizations we do see for COVID right now have nothing to do with COVID (i.e. "incidental” hospitalizations where one is at the hospital for an unrelated situation and happens to test positive). My research indicates this has been some numerical factor since mid-2020 but I admit it was not as big of a factor as some anecdotal evidence at first suggested. However, a barrage of medical experts are now saying their COVID "hospitalizations” now are not COVID related – from 50-70% in some cases. The telling number is ICU stays, which flat out have not gone up, period. ICUs and Hospitalizations had a strong correlation a year ago – that has fallen apart now. This is overwhelming support for the case so many are making about omicron.
January 4, 20223 yr New York now separating the data. Death toll is likely greatly exaggerated because of this: Why wouldn't this be SOP in the first place? A more cynical person might be suspicious of the motivations.
January 4, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Is there a reason why you never source anything you post? I’m hoping that your source is correct but there’s no way to make that distinction since you never post a link.
January 4, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: New York now separating the data. Death toll is likely greatly exaggerated because of this: Why wouldn't this be SOP in the first place? A more cynical person might be suspicious of the motivations. Have you ever seen a death certificate? There is rarely ever one single thing listed as possible cause of death. New York can recount all of their deaths but unless the entire country does it, the numbers are barely gonna move. You might think that they’ll flip and we’ll suddenly see only 20,000 Covid deaths but you’re waaaaayy wrong in thinking that. It’s not like Covid is suddenly not going to be a factor in cause of death.
January 4, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, DBW said: Have you ever seen a death certificate? There is rarely ever one single thing listed as possible cause of death. New York can recount all of their deaths but unless the entire country does it, the numbers are barely gonna move. You might think that they’ll flip and we’ll suddenly see only 20,000 Covid deaths but you’re waaaaayy wrong in thinking that. It’s not like Covid is suddenly not going to be a factor in cause of death. Yeah, don't think it'll reduce the death count to 20K, but it's absolutely insane that hospitals haven't been making the distinction between being hospitalized because of Covid or hospitalized with Covid. We've based much of our response to the virus around hospitalizations and deaths and we're just now finding out that the conspiracy theorists have been right about the numbers all along. It's insanity.
January 4, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Is there a reason why you never source anything you post? I’m hoping that your source is correct but there’s no way to make that distinction since you never post a link. Why bother? You’ll either beyotch about the lack of sourcing, or immediately dismiss it due to the source. Stay happy in your ignorance. Just now, Kz! said: Yeah, don't think it'll reduce the death count to 20K, but it's absolutely insane that hospitals haven't been making the distinction between being hospitalized because of Covid or hospitalized with Covid. We've based much of our response to the virus around hospitalizations and deaths and we're just now finding out that the conspiracy theorists have been right about the numbers all along. It's insanity. They don’t make the distinction because the feds pay them not to.
January 4, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Is there a reason why you never source anything you post? I’m hoping that your source is correct but there’s no way to make that distinction since you never post a link. Pro tip, if it's a quote you can literally google search any sentence and the first result will almost certainly be from the publication. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/covid-data-in-perspective/
January 4, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Why bother? You’ll either beyotch about the lack of sourcing, or immediately dismiss it due to the source. Stay happy in your ignorance. They don’t make the distinction because the feds pay them not to. The fact that we've never had anything close to real data on hospitalizations should be kind of jarring to everyone, though, right? It just seems crazy to me.
January 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: The fact that we've never had anything close to real data on hospitalizations should be kind of jarring to everyone, though, right? It just seems crazy to me. Everybody except for those like Plankton, who meltdown anytime anyone even questions what their political leaders say. 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: websites specializing in far right fiction are super legit! Not bad for a sicko.
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