1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

Finally out of the woods with COVID and flurona making its way around our house. Everyone with the exception of our youngest, who was vaccinated, was laid up at some point. It was the sickest a couple of us have ever been.

Sorry you have had to go thru that but sounds like you are all coming out the other side now which is great news. 

8 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

agreed - it is in no way surprising. But saying this a year ago, was propaganda. 

Now the CDC is saying it. 

🤷‍♂️

What do you mean "now” the CDC is saying it?  There’s been data on COVID deaths and comorbidities since the beginning of this thing.  
Propaganda is people who then take that data and go "only 5% of COVID deaths are in people with zero comorbidities.  That means the REAL amount of COVID deaths are actually only 5% of the death toll the government is putting out” which is something I’ve seen happen time and time again.  
Some People hear the term comorbidity and they think it means diagnosed with a condition that has you pegged for imminent death.   Not realizing that the majority of the over 40 adult population has hypertension, diabetes, or is obese, and so when ANYONE of them dies for ANY reason, it’s highly likely they have comorbidities.

3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

What do you mean "now” the CDC is saying it?  There’s been data on COVID deaths and comorbidities since the beginning of this thing.  
Propaganda is people who then take that data and go "only 5% of COVID deaths are in people with zero comorbidities.  That means the REAL amount of COVID deaths are actually only 5% of the death toll the government is putting out” which is something I’ve seen happen time and time again.  
Some People hear the term comorbidity and they think it means diagnosed with a condition that has you pegged for imminent death.   Not realizing that the majority of the over 40 adult population has hypertension, diabetes, or is obese, and so when ANYONE of them dies for ANY reason, it’s highly likely they have comorbidities.

In most cases self inflicted comorbidities.

7 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Words cannot express how infuriating it is to see a bunch of ignorant C-students act like this is even remotely normal or mild.  

Wow so you believe the vaccines don't work? is that what you are saying, you  believe the stats showing that around 0.2% of vaxxed have died is a lie? because if you believe the numbers  then you agree it is mild for almost all vaxxed. And since the vaccine is widely available then it is a personal choice whether the virus is mild or not. Virginia for example, looks pretty mild overall for vaxxed. I mean if you can't live a normal life with these odds then you better be prepared to lockdown forever,

8 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

Some of the people I know drive as much as 10-14 hours one way, rather than fly. That is saying something. 

9-10 hours is my cutoff. Less than that and flying isn’t worth it. Takes me 90 mins to drive to the airport, then dealing with airport crap for 90 mins, then the flight and getting out of the airport. Just not worth it. Especially with rental cars being crazy expensive now.

For the usual group of imbeciles that didn’t understand, here it is in bullet points. 
 

You still won’t understand, but whatever. 
 

 

18 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Wow so you believe the vaccines don't work? is that what you are saying, you  believe the stats showing that around 0.2% of vaxxed have died is a lie? because if you believe the numbers that then you agree it is mild for almost all vaxxed. And since the vaccine is widely available then it is a personal choice whether the virus is mild or not. Virginia for example, looks pretty mild overall for vaxxed. I mean if you can't live a normal life with these odds then you better be prepared to lockdown forever,

Where are you getting the 0.2% of vaxxed have died stat?

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Where are you getting the 0.2% of vaxxed have died stat?

It  may be less than that. Not all states give out the info, New Jersey and Virginia are two that do and the numbers are less than 0.2% so it is not a giant leap to think that even if it is higher overall then it is not much.

9 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

It  may be less than that. Not all states give out the info, New Jersey and Virginia are two that do and the numbers are less than 0.2% so it is not a giant leap to think that even if it is higher overall then it is not much.

If the Virginia numbers are correct and .017% of vaxxed have died that means 17 out of every 100,000 people.  That’s pretty good odds.

99.983% survival rate 

Let's hope this report doesn't pan out.

https://nationalfile.com/dr-robert-malone-warns-ebola-like-hemorrhagic-fever-super-virus-china-caused-mutations-due-mass-vaccination/

Dr. Robert Malone Warns Of 'Ebola-Like Hemorrhagic Fever' Super Virus In China Caused By Mutations Due To Mass Vaccination

9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

that was the "piss taking" part.

Yeah I understood that you were taking the pee. Thanks. 

If a fat person with diabetes has a heart attack and dies what is the cause of death?

11 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

If a fat person with diabetes has a heart attack and dies what is the cause of death?

Heart attack with contributing factors being a fatty with diabetes

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Heart attack with contributing factors being a fatty with diabetes

Yep, died of a heart attack

I've read several articles now which essentially say everyone will get Omicron as it is simply too contagious to stop.   The important part in that scenario remains "flatten the curve" as always so restrictive measures are useful in helping to keep hospitals from completely being knocked out all at once.

 

btw - On the personal level, I was finally given the chance to book a booster.  That option opened up yesterday.  It took me a day to find a reasonable location/time and this morning I found one.  My booster is tomorrow morning.

 

Even these two get why it is important to be clear.  It doesn't change the need to protect the hospitals but it does make a difference in establishing trust between the populace and the authorities.  This was always a very important point that some places (e.g. Sweden) did well and others (e.g. US) failed.

30 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

 

Even these two get why it is important to be clear.  It doesn't change the need to protect the hospitals but it does make a difference in establishing trust between the populace and the authorities.  This was always a very important point that some places (e.g. Sweden) did well and others (e.g. US) failed.

Trust of the CDC is pretty much gone, liberals and conservatives both no longer believe anything from them and that is bad for more reasons than just covid, there are plenty of other health issues and they have damaged their credibility

4 hours ago, Procus said:

Let's hope this report doesn't pan out.

https://nationalfile.com/dr-robert-malone-warns-ebola-like-hemorrhagic-fever-super-virus-china-caused-mutations-due-mass-vaccination/

Dr. Robert Malone Warns Of 'Ebola-Like Hemorrhagic Fever' Super Virus In China Caused By Mutations Due To Mass Vaccination

Right after checking the weather every day I always go to Steve Bannon’s War Room for today's update on latest health issues

6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Trust of the CDC is pretty much gone, liberals and conservatives both no longer believe anything from them and that is bad for more reasons than just covid, there are plenty of other health issues and they have damaged their credibility

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/we-have-gone-backwards-covid-confusion-snarls-biden-white-house-n1287282

Here is an article talking very much about truth and transparency.  I don't have time to copy/paste here.  One data point is the assertion by the Baltimore Health Commissioner that the CDC continuing to recommend cloth masks in the presence of Omicron is "unconscionable".  I'm sure that will go over well here for a number of opinionated posters in here

16 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/we-have-gone-backwards-covid-confusion-snarls-biden-white-house-n1287282

Here is an article talking very much about truth and transparency.  I don't have time to copy/paste here.  One data point is the assertion by the Baltimore Health Commissioner that the CDC continuing to recommend cloth masks in the presence of Omicron is "unconscionable".  I'm sure that will go over well here for a number of opinionated posters in here

The CDC knows that people are not going to wear the proper masks because they when worn for long periods are not comfortable. So that puts them in a bind because of kids in school. If they say cloth masks are no good then what ? The administration and the CDC have been such a disaster that in 3 years if trump is not president again and someone with the brains of kid rock the head of the CDC I would be shocked. 

24 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

The CDC knows that people are not going to wear the proper masks because they when worn for long periods are not comfortable. So that puts them in a bind because of kids in school. If they say cloth masks are no good then what ? The administration and the CDC have been such a disaster that in 3 years if trump is not president again and someone with the brains of kid rock the head of the CDC I would be shocked. 

This is where the trust comes in. Kids in school shouldn’t be wearing them. Certainly not to protect against Omicron. 

Wearing cloth masks when it was hard to get N95 masks was a reasonable precaution.

35 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

This is where the trust comes in. Kids in school shouldn’t be wearing them. Certainly not to protect against Omicron. 

Well, half the country isn’t even wearing masks to school, so…

4 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Wearing cloth masks when it was hard to get N95 masks was a reasonable precaution.

SSDD

6 hours ago, vikas83 said:

For the usual group of imbeciles that didn’t understand, here it is in bullet points. 
 

You still won’t understand, but whatever. 
 

 

Not to mention that comorbidities are not the same thing as preexisting conditions. The top two comorbidities among Covid deaths are pneumonia and respiratory failure.

I'm sure these facts will finally convince the imbeciles.