11 minutes ago, DBW said:

 

It’s a sad but true reality that the hospital systems in the US are under funded and understaffed during normal times. Precovid I once waited in the ER so long I went into renal failure due to severe dehydration when I got hit with a bad stomach virus/infection.  I nearly died waiting for them to get to me and I’m not embellishing that, the doctor said any longer and I would have been in some real trouble as my kidneys were barely functioning.  That happened to me twice within a few years.  And I have one of the best hospital system on the country in my state.  So what people don’t realize is the burden they’re under most days let alone a pandemic.  My local hospitals are not doing any elective procedures, have urged people to not even come to the ER for Covid like symptoms, they can’t Handle the volume and the real emergencies like motto vehicle crash victims, heart attacks, etc are unable to get cared for.  That’s the harsh reality that people are ignoring.   

Did the hobo who gave you the virus survive?

1 minute ago, Brianfive said:

So am I ,once again I’m vaxed

I didn't say anything about you being vaxxed.

I said you were stupid for saying you couldn't believe someone/something ever again if you were lied to. Like, that's just Fing insane. Every person you've ever known has lied to you at some point. Someone who isn't stupid would be able to distinguish between the good, scientific work being done and the few people who exploit the situation for their own benefit. 

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Thoughts @DrPhilly??  

Far as I am aware you don't listen to Sam.  I do and he's very outspoken in his pro vaccine stance.  He is very negative toward the anti-vaxxers.

You would emphatically disagree with Sam on other topics like identity politics but on this one you'd be in violent agreement.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I guess we're just taking the government's data about vaxxed vs. unvaxxed death rates at face value?

 

You can also go by word of mouth, I know of no one vaxxed and hospitalized but I know of people unvaxxed and hospitalized, it is not a scientific study but still gives some insight

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Far as I am aware you don't listen to Sam.  I do and he's very outspoken in his pro vaccine stance.  He is very negative toward the anti-vaxxers.

You would emphatically disagree with Sam on other topics like identity politics but on this one you'd be in violent agreement.

Did you listen to the podcast in question?

16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

No one cares.  Take the vaccine or don't.  If you're stupid enough to base that decision on some conspiracy you've conjured up in your mind then enjoy the consequences of that absolutely insane decision.

 Clearly the thousands of posts the ishlibs have made in here whining about the unvaxxed and maskless is you all not caring 

 

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

You can also go by word of mouth, I know of no one vaxxed and hospitalized but I know of people unvaxxed and hospitalized, it is not a scientific study but still gives some insight

Ditto, I just think it's pretty obvious at this point that you can't take government hospitalization data at face value any longer for obvious reasons. 

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Did you listen to the podcast in question?

No.  I listen to him on YouTube and he hasn't dropped one there for a few weeks now.

Have you listened to it?

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Ditto, I just think it's pretty obvious at this point that you can't take government hospitalization data at face value any longer for obvious reasons. 

As much as I'd like to disagree with this I can't. It's a hard pill to swallow.

3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

 Clearly the thousands of posts the ishlibs have made in here whining about the unvaxxed and maskless is you all not caring 

 

  All I've been doing is trying to get consensus on them being the Dumbest Cult in the History of Mankind (tm).  My concern for them being vaxxed has long since waned.  

Just now, mayanh8 said:

As much as I'd like to disagree with this I can't. It's a hard pill to swallow.

The government destroyed  their own credibility, it is no longer a conspiracy theory to think they would lie about any numbers

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

The government destroyed  their own credibility, it is no longer a conspiracy theory to think they would lie about any numbers

"The government" didn't destroy their own credibility. They're mostly doing good work. They've just been completely unable to adjust, on the fly, when it comes to context and messaging with the different variants and level of risk. As a general rule of thumb, I trust the government and the experts that say things that make sense. 

15 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

No.  I listen to him on YouTube and he hasn't dropped one there for a few weeks now.

Have you listened to it?

Heck no, I don’t listen to that garbage.

33 minutes ago, Brianfive said:

I’m vaxed dude! Just giving my opinion on why people act or think the way they do🤷‍♂️

There's a simpler answer...

Most people are really effing stupid.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Heck no, I don’t listen to that garbage.

Too funny.  What do you even know about Harris to be able to make that statement?  You are just basing that on the fact that over the years you've seen some tweets from people that don't like his take on identity politics, amiright?

 

16 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Too funny.  What do you even know about Harris to be able to make that statement?  You are just basing that on the fact that over the years you've seen some tweets from people that don't like his take on identity politics, amiright?

Calling the pro vaccine folks a cult is part of the reason we’re in this mess.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Calling the pro vaccine folks a cult is part of the reason we’re in this mess.

Uhhh, read it again.  Sam called the anti-vaxxers a cult.

53 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Did the hobo who gave you the virus survive?

Im sure he did - he plays poker with some rednecks and they share sperm smoothies.   

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Uhhh, read it again.  Sam called the anti-vaxxers a cult.

Oops

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Oops

  You've been led so far down the wrong path with regard to Harris that you just glossed over this tweet and completely misread it,

Good graph showing the disparity between vaxed, unvaxxed, and boosted.

52 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

I didn't say anything about you being vaxxed.

I said you were stupid for saying you couldn't believe someone/something ever again if you were lied to. Like, that's just Fing insane. Every person you've ever known has lied to you at some point. Someone who isn't stupid would be able to distinguish between the good, scientific work being done and the few people who exploit the situation for their own benefit. 

Maybe believe was the wrong word to use,,,trust is the better word, because yes I may believe what someone who has lied to me in the past is saying,but never would I trust them🤷‍♂️  If that’s stupid to you,that is fine by me,just the way my brain is wired

4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He opens with a Chinese greeting, he says Irish but looks Scottish, the R Kelly reference in the background, etc. The amount of effort he put into that for such a minimal pay off.

Computer opened to Dave's profile is my favorite part  

The province of Quebec will start to fine unvaccinated adults.
 

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The province of Quebec is the first in Canada to announce fines for those who choose to not get the COVID-19 vaccine.

This afternoon (Tuesday, January 11th, 2022), Premier Francois Legault announced Quebec residents who do not have a valid medical exemption will have to pay a "health contribution”.

No set amount for the fines have been determined, but it’s expected to be a significant amount.

Last week Quebec announced proof of vaccination will be required to enter liquor and cannabis stores and the province is considering extended restrictions to even more businesses.

More details to come.