5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Well, each successive variant following omicron will likely have a more similar genetic structure to Omicron than it will to Corona Classic, so it should still prove more effective than the current dose.

Oh for sure. And when we've reached two or three new mutations, that renders the omicron specific vaccine obsolete, then I'm sure they'll churn out something new that'll work with whatever letter of the greek alphabet that'll be. Honestly, there' really not a downside I can think of for injecting these things 3 to 4 times a year for the rest of your lives.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

^This. Though to be fair, this was the expectation among many virologists with delta, where the thought was future variants would all be sub-lineages of delta until omicron came along. But still, a targeted booster seems even more practical now, due to its ability to evade existing immunity. 

 

So Omicron did not evolve from Delta? I guess that's why we skipped so many letters.

15 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Oh good, I'm sure coronavirus will stop mutating and it'll work really well on the pi variant and definitely the rho variant. But, hey, if it doesn't work on the sigma variant, I'm sure they'll be able to get a new vaccine out for that one in time for the tau variant to take over.  

You realize the flu mutates all the time too and we're constantly getting updated vaccines for that as well, right?

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

So Omicron did not evolve from Delta? I guess that's why we skipped so many letters.

No. Very far from delta. I think it's fairly close to Beta (first SA variant), and technically closer to OG Wuhan than it is to delta. There's a graph I saw that maps it out, I'll see if I can find it.

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You realize the flu mutates all the time too and we're constantly getting updated vaccines for that as well, right?

Wow x4. Very cool. Have you ever taken four shots in a year for it?

Inflation is real thing but this constant story of empty store shelves is complete nonsenese, I order online every week and get most things and every wawa I go to is full of stuff

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No. Very far from delta. I think it's fairly close to Beta (first SA variant), and technically closer to OG Wuhan than it is to delta. There's a graph I saw that maps it out, I'll see if I can find it.

Interesting. So, if it's closer to OG, why aren't the current vaccines more effective?

Just now, Kz! said:

Wow x4. Very cool. Have you ever taken four shots in a year for it?

I usually take 1 but the flu didn't pop up 2 years ago and suddenly spread around the globe, killing millions.  If it had, I'm sure we'd see the same cat and mouse game for that as well.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

Interesting. So, if it's closer to OG, why aren't the current vaccines more effective?

They are effective just not at as good for stopping infection

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

They are effective just not at as good for stopping infection

 

Yes, but it seems that it's more effective stopping transmission of Delta, even though Omicron is more closely related to the original strain that it was developed for.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

imagine being so triggered in life that you spend most of your day trolling a football mb.

 

 winning 

Now imagine that dude has an autistic superfan who posts pictures of elmo every time the guy who spends "most of his day trolling a football mb" posts. 

13 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Interesting. So, if it's closer to OG, why aren't the current vaccines more effective?

Depends on the types of mutations, and where they're located I guess (on spike or elsewhere.)

There was another graphic I saw that referred to the specific mutations but this is good too.

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

So Omicron did not evolve from Delta? I guess that's why we skipped so many letters.

Well, there was one letter that got skipped for other reasons.

 

"Dr Fauci give me that ouchy"

"Vaccinate you all day long, Vaccinate your dad & Mom, Vaccinate me in the thong"

 

My wife had long Covid and killed herself. We must help others who are suffering

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/12/long-covid-wife-suicide-give-others-hope

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Watching long Covid systematically take her apart, organ system by organ system, was the most terrifying deterioration of a human being I have ever witnessed. My wife was an avid 90-minute-a-day walker, ate only organic (and mostly vegan) food, and hadn’t had an alcoholic drink in three and half years. Within six weeks of noticing "Covid toes” and some gastrointestinal issues she could barely walk from excruciating nerve pain in her feet so extreme as to mimic advanced diabetic neuropathy.

 

Long Covid doesn’t come for you all at once; instead, with methodical precision, it slowly robs you. Heidi lost her mobility and her ability to eat. She was a lifelong avid reader but the brain fog (better thought of as cognitive dysfunction) robbed her of the ability to retain information. Even urinating and eventually, and cruelly, sex became painful. Long Covid seemed to steal every part of her life that made it worth living.

 

this cant be true? 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

this cant be true? 

 

 

Have you ever been to a Ronald McDonald House?  It's just a place to stay in the hospital and hang out for a couple nights while a loved one is admitted.  We stayed at one when my Mom was dying, shaved, ate a snack, etc.  Eviction is a pretty strong word there.  I'd be surprised if anyone was actually evicted.  More like they wouldn't be able to enter if they were unvaxxed.

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Have you ever been to a Ronald McDonald House?  It's just a place to stay in the hospital and hang out for a couple nights while a loved one is admitted.  We stayed at one when my Mom was dying, shaved, ate a snack, etc.  Eviction is a pretty strong word there.  I'd be surprised if anyone was actually evicted.  More like they wouldn't be able to enter if they were unvaxxed.

And given that the patients of the families staying there are frequently immunocompromised, that makes sense. An outbreak at a Ronald McDonald house would be devastating. 

16 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

this cant be true? 

 

 

I'd hope so. I wouldn't want anti-vaxx nutters running around that place infecting cancer patients by way of their families. That place is meant to help people, not hurt them.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

And given that the patients of the families staying there are frequently immunocompromised, that makes sense. An outbreak at a Ronald McDonald house would be devastating. 

Yeah, but, you know...freedom.  It says it right there in the constitution that I can stay in a Canadian Ronald McDonald House.

30 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

 

"Dr Fauci give me that ouchy"

"Vaccinate you all day long, Vaccinate your dad & Mom, Vaccinate me in the thong"

 

It's a cult.   

At some point, after the pandemic is over, we're going to have to address where this virus came from. Not interested in getting into a whole thing about it but there's enough serious people questioning whether this virus could have occurred naturally that it deserves a serious conversation. And I hope it's done in a way that doesn't instigate backlash against a group of people.

30 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

this cant be true?

 

It's the right move. I think we all agree that this virus is most dangerous for the immunocompromised. You know where probably the worst place for a COVID-positive person to be inhabiting? A building full of kids with cancer.

16 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

I'd hope so. I wouldn't want anti-vaxx nutters running around that place infecting cancer patients by way of their families. That place is meant to help people, not hurt them.

In many places, vaccinated individuals are overrepresented as a percentage of omicron cases lmfao