January 12, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: In many places, vaccinated individuals are overrepresented as a percentage of omicron cases lmfao Omicron isn't the only variant out there. And if the virus lifespan is proven to be reduced in vaccinated individuals then I think it's a reasonable prevention tactic.
January 12, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: It's insane, dude. In one post, ishlibs will openly admit that the vaccine is completely useless against transmission now, and in the very next post, they'll applaud insane things like a kid with a terminal illness getting kicked out of his room because he's unvaccinated. Like, two posts, back to back. I don't think you know what the Ronald McDonald House does.
January 12, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Oncologist: Little Timmy here has unfortunately contracted COVID - the Theta Kappa Lamda variant. With his radiation therapy he may get really sick. Ishlibs: *Autistic screeching* THESE MUTHERFIN TRUMPBOT UNVACCINATED SUPER SPREADERS Oncologist: It appears he received it from his vaccinated mother, who just visited him. Ishlibs: Well in that case, carry on So you don't think a place that houses the families of terminally ill people should do everything they can from preventing a virus from getting in there? Really?
January 12, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, mayanh8 said: Omicron isn't the only variant out there. And if the virus lifespan is proven to be reduced in vaccinated individuals then I think it's a reasonable prevention tactic. lol yeah, totally more reasonable to throw a child cancer patient out of the room for being unvaccinated than it would be to simply test him.
January 12, 20223 yr Just now, mayanh8 said: I don't think you know what the Ronald McDonald House does. He definitely doesn't.
January 12, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: lol yeah, totally more reasonable to throw a child cancer patient out of the room for being unvaccinated than it would be to simply test him. Is that what happened, though?
January 12, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: At some point, after the pandemic is over, we're going to have to address where this virus came from. Not interested in getting into a whole thing about it but there's enough serious people questioning whether this virus could have occurred naturally that it deserves a serious conversation. And I hope it's done in a way that doesn't instigate backlash against a group of people. If it was man-made, in Wuhan, my guess is any evidence of that is long destroyed. Unless they left a whistleblower with hard evidence in hand alive, which seems unlikely. People have been studying this for a couple of years now. I assume if there was a gotcha, we would have heard about it, some place OTHER than the NY Post.
January 12, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: lol yeah, totally more reasonable to throw a child cancer patient out of the room for being unvaccinated than it would be to simply test him.
January 12, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: lol yeah, totally more reasonable to throw a child cancer patient out of the room for being unvaccinated than it would be to simply test him. 2 problems, one is they are not 100% accurate and 2 it is only snapshot in time
January 12, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, downundermike said: After all this time, they still do not understand what a vaccine is and how it works. This Vaccine appears to lesson the severity of possible infections. It does not prevent contraction nor transmission. And no most people do not understand that.
January 12, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Oh @Kz!... Is there any other person more reliably embarrassing than him? I honestly can't think of anyone. Even lynched or eagleva don't revel in self-owns like he does.
January 12, 20223 yr Boy has covid. Got him tested this morning. Yesterday he had a mild fever, no appetite and fatigue. Slept a lot. Now no fever and full energy. He kicked some covid ass in 24 hours.
January 12, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Toastrel said: If it was man-made, in Wuhan, my guess is any evidence of that is long destroyed. Unless they left a whistleblower with hard evidence in hand alive, which seems unlikely. People have been studying this for a couple of years now. I assume if there was a gotcha, we would have heard about it, some place OTHER than the NY Post. Some Republicans got ahold of some emails going back and forth between epidemiologists, including Fauci, back in early 2020 where they are openly musing about the chance of COVID's natural occurrence. There's no way to know for sure and there's nothing in the emails that suggest they know it was man made. But the suspicion is warranted.
January 12, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Is there any other person more reliably embarrassing than him? I honestly can't think of anyone. Even lynched or eagleva don't revel in self-owns like he does.
January 12, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: This Vaccine appears to lesson the severity of possible infections. It does not prevent contraction nor transmission. And no most people do not understand that. I'm no epidemiologist. But I think it's logical to assume that if the vaccine works to lessen the effects of Omicron in the body then it's also working to lessen the time the virus has in the body to survive and spread to other people. No, it doesn't PREVENT re-transmission altogether. It never did for any of the variants. But it reduces the overall lifespan which means it reduced the amount of retransmission in a vaccinated individual.
January 12, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Some Republicans got ahold of some emails going back and forth between epidemiologists, including Fauci, back in early 2020 where they are openly musing about the chance of COVID's natural occurrence. There's no way to know for sure and there's nothing in the emails that suggest they know it was man made. But the suspicion is warranted. Yes, and we should put forth substantial effort into finding the answer.
January 12, 20223 yr From working in IT forensics, and having an interest in crime and criminology, I believe that each minute away from the crime, the odds of figuring it out drop significantly. Often times in the IT world, there is no smoking gun to point to - logs are imperfect, sensors are imperfect. By the time you fix the problem, the root cause of the problem might no longer be visible. Crime seems to have the same problems. If it is man made, the real hope is some arrogant dewsh signed his work, and somebody lucking into finding it.
January 12, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Toastrel said: From working in IT forensics, and having an interest in crime and criminology, I believe that each minute away from the crime, the odds of figuring it out drop significantly. Often times in the IT world, there is no smoking gun to point to - logs are imperfect, sensors are imperfect. By the time you fix the problem, the root cause of the problem might no longer be visible. Crime seems to have the same problems. If it is man made, the real hope is some arrogant dewsh signed his work, and somebody lucking into finding it. Either way China should be held accountable for their actions in failing to properly warn the global community and prevent this from occurring in the first place. A zoonotic origin (presumably from wild life trade practices or field research) does not give them a free pass since they still attempted to destroy all evidence of those links to the Huanan market and elsewhere both inside and outside of Wuhan.
January 12, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Toastrel said: From working in IT forensics, and having an interest in crime and criminology, I believe that each minute away from the crime, the odds of figuring it out drop significantly. Often times in the IT world, there is no smoking gun to point to - logs are imperfect, sensors are imperfect. By the time you fix the problem, the root cause of the problem might no longer be visible. Crime seems to have the same problems. If it is man made, the real hope is some arrogant dewsh signed his work, and somebody lucking into finding it. and that info not being supressed for any political reasons.
January 12, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Either way China should be held accountable for their actions in failing to properly warn the global community and prevent this from occurring in the first place. A zoonotic origin (presumably from wild life trade practices or field research) does not give them a free pass since they still attempted to destroy all evidence of those links to the Huanan market and elsewhere both inside and outside of Wuhan. How is anyone going to hold them accountable?
January 12, 20223 yr Just now, Ipiggles said: and that info not being supressed for any political reasons. There's a danger in letting unfiltered information like that out to the public. We see now how careless and stupid people are when armed with even the most innocuous anecdotes. People are so desperate to come to a conclusion they're comfortable with that they'll just start making crap up and spinning a narrative. I 100% respect the decision of scientists to not share their opinions on the matter. They obviously don't know if the Wuhan lab made it. It's suspicious for sure, but just because the chance of natural occurrence is low doesn't mean it's not natural. I want the scientific community to come together and do as much work as possible to figure it out. But we may never know. And people need to be OK with that.
January 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Toastrel said: How is anyone going to hold them accountable? It's the same argument for holding them accountable for currency manipulation. You have to have cause that hits home hard enough to form a global coalition against them. A global pandemic might fit that criteria.
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