January 25, 20223 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: the next pandemic is coming straight outta nepa! Fing NEPA. First stink bugs now stink eye
January 25, 20223 yr So if this virus keeps mutating becoming more and more contagious but without severe illness, how long before herd immunity? Or will that happen since we now have detected another variant of Omicron? Can humans be immune to one variant but not another?
January 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said: I got everything down except one decoration that is staked into the frozen ground. I'll have to check later today to see if the ground thawed enough. now that i think about it...i should probably get the decorations put away when i get home from work. the only tricky one is a 60" diameter (25-30 lb) wreath the wife decided to buy for above the garage door. that was a beetch to hang....and should also be fun to take down with our ice covered driveway.
January 25, 20223 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: now that i think about it...i should probably get the decorations put away when i get home from work. the only tricky one is a 60" diameter (25-30 lb) wreath the wife decided to buy for above the garage door. that was a beetch to hang....and should also be fun to take down with our ice covered driveway. We have one of those above the garage too. I hate hanging that damned thing.
January 25, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: the next pandemic is coming straight outta nepa! post a pink of your pink eye, please do put the spoiler alert in play
January 25, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: the next pandemic is coming straight outta nepa! We thought nipah virus was bad, but it ain't got sheet on the nepa virus.
January 25, 20223 yr FDA halts use of antibody drugs that don't work vs. omicron https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-halts-use-of-antibody-drugs-that-dont-work-vs-omicron/ar-AAT69MA?ocid=BingNews This makes no sense, since those treatments are more expensive.
January 25, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, DiPros said: So if this virus keeps mutating becoming more and more contagious but without severe illness, how long before herd immunity? Or will that happen since we now have detected another variant of Omicron? Can humans be immune to one variant but not another? The concept of sterilizing herd immunity (R0 driven below 1 for a sustained period of time) basically went out the window in July when details of Delta began to emerge. Omicron was just dunking that same ball through the same hoop, only harder. But the term you might see more of now is an immunity wall, where waves have a smaller chance of causing severe disease at high enough rates to overburden hospitals. Unfortunately we still live among a lot of idiots and there's no vaccine for that.
January 25, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, DiPros said: So if this virus keeps mutating becoming more and more contagious but without severe illness, how long before herd immunity? Or will that happen since we now have detected another variant of Omicron? Can humans be immune to one variant but not another? Hi Di, thanks for the question. Covid will likely continue to mutate and adapt, but also become weaker and more transmissible in the process. We likely won't ever reach a "herd immunity" due to the virus's ability to mutate, but we are done with the more dangerous strains, and we will no longer have to make serious changes in our day-to-day lives to deal with the illness.
January 25, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: I think the jab jockeys are freaking out. You have no answer to Pacos question below, do you? 59 minutes ago, paco said: So why would Merck say otherwise? You would think they would go out and get that $$$
January 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: For the billionth time, the long-term side effects of viruses are real and tangible. The long term side effects of vaccines are basically non-existent. You can't pretend to "work in vaccines" and "understand the science" when you keep repeating laughably uninformed talking points from Fox news. I am not pretending anything. I did work in the vaccine and diagnostic industry as a research and development scientist for over 25 years prior to taking on a career change. I don't pretend anything. I am just stressing that we should not be overly cavalier in accepting the word/opinion of the vaccine industry scientist or the government officials. The current very new technology vaccines have not been around long enough to understand the risks. I am "fully vaccinated" myself and would recommend others do the same. I do not see the point in villifying those who chose not to gamble with the new technology before it is proven efficacious.
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, sameaglesfan said: I am not pretending anything. I did work in the vaccine and diagnostic industry as a research and development scientist for over 25 years prior to taking on a career change. I don't pretend anything. I am just stressing that we should not be overly cavalier in accepting the word/opinion of the vaccine industry scientist or the government officials. The current very new technology vaccines have not been around long enough to understand the risks. I am "fully vaccinated" myself and would recommend others do the same. I do not see the point in villifying those who chose not to gamble with the new technology before it is proven efficacious.
January 25, 20223 yr This is my face when these idiots ignore the risks of a novel and dangerous virus, and instead clutch their pearls over "gambling their health on an unproven new vaccine technology"...
January 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: This is my face when these idiots ignore the risks of a novel and dangerous virus, and instead clutch their pearls over "gambling their health on an unproven new vaccine technology"... 3 hours ago, Kz! said: These numbers are absolutely bonkers. Are they just lies or do we have a serious issue on our hands? Thoughts?
January 25, 20223 yr Reply guy is extra lonely today, following me into different threads, vying desperately for attention.
January 25, 20223 yr #teampfizer Quote Pfizer starts clinical trials for vaccine designed to specifically target COVID-19 omicron variant Pfizer and BioNTech have begun a clinical trial for their Omicron-specific COVID-19 vaccine candidate, they announced in a news release on Tuesday. The study will evaluate the vaccine for safety, tolerability and the level of immune response, as both a primary series and a booster dose, in up to 1,420 healthy adults ages 18 to 55. The study is broken up into three groups: Participants in the first cohort have received two doses of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at least 90 to 180 days before the study. They will receive one or two doses of the Omicron-specific vaccine. Participants in the second cohort have received three doses of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at least 90 to 180 days prior to the study. They will receive one dose of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine or the Omicron-specific vaccine. Participants in the third cohort have not received any Covid-19 vaccine. They will receive three doses of the Omicron-specific vaccine. The Omicron-specific vaccine will be administered as a 30-microgram dose, the same as the current vaccine. "While current research and real-world data show that boosters continue to provide a high level of protection against severe disease and hospitalization with Omicron, we recognize the need to be prepared in the event this protection wanes over time and to potentially help address Omicron and new variants in the future," Pfizer Senior Vice President and Head of Vaccine Research and Development Kathrin Jansen said in the release. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said last month that if a new vaccine is needed for the Omicron coronavirus variant, the company will have one in March. However, a Pfizer spokesperson confirmed that the company has already begun to manufacture this vaccine. "In the wake of Omicron, we are proactively investigating and manufacturing at risk an Omicron-based vaccine should it be needed, but we of course need to have results and discussions with health authorities as well as approvals before it would be deployed," the spokesperson told CNN. Expected vaccine production will not be affected if the companies need to pivot to the new vaccine, they said. "The companies have previously announced that they expect to produce four billion doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in 2022, and this capacity is not expected to change if an adapted vaccine is required." However, the companies also emphasized that people who have received booster doses of the current vaccine "maintain a high level of protection against Omicron, particularly against severe disease and hospitalizations." A new preprint lab study suggests that antibodies against the Omicron coronavirus variant remain robust four months after a third dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. "Additional real world effectiveness data and laboratory investigations will further inform the duration of protection, potential need for an additional dose at a later time, and whether an Omicron modified vaccine is required," said the study from researchers at the University of Texas Medical Branch, Pfizer and BioNTech. The-CNN-Wire & 2022 Cable News Network, Inc., a WarnerMedia Company. All rights reserved. https://6abc.com/pfizer-vaccine-covid-19-omicron-new/11507348/?ex_cid=TA_WPVI_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A Trending Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1pKut5zFNpDaa976CTOX7z1WpMmWhqpbQBp8iSILGmBZLl1MtZtyqHw3M
January 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Reply guy is extra lonely today, following me into different threads, vying desperately for attention. "Reply guy?" Really? At least be original if you're too scared of the data to respond.
January 25, 20223 yr Had another newborn today whose mother died of COVID. Urgent C section and mom intubated right after, but didn't make it. Dad's a complete mess. With Omicron I'm not as worried for most patients, but pregnant women are a huge at risk population where vaccine rates lag. I don't have a snarky comment or anything. crap's just really hard to watch.
January 25, 20223 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: Had another newborn today whose mother died of COVID. Urgent C section and mom intubated right after, but didn't make it. Dad's a complete mess. With Omicron I'm not as worried for most patients, but pregnant women are a huge at risk population where vaccine rates lag. I don't have a snarky comment or anything. crap's just really hard to watch. That is really sad. For the unvaccinated or those at risk Omicron can still be super serious.
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: Had another newborn today whose mother died of COVID. Urgent C section and mom intubated right after, but didn't make it. Dad's a complete mess. With Omicron I'm not as worried for most patients, but pregnant women are a huge at risk population where vaccine rates lag. I don't have a snarky comment or anything. crap's just really hard to watch. According to data submitted by military doctors, miscarriages increased by over 300% in the past year. The woman very likely chose her child over her own safety. Heartbreaking.
January 25, 20223 yr Hey @The_Omega this right here^ is what a ghoul looks like. Yet you never call him out and instead direct your anger at me for bringing attention to the severity of a dangerous virus. Ask yourself why that is.
January 25, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Hey @The_Omega this right here^ is what a ghoul looks like. Yet you never call him out and instead direct your anger at me for bringing attention to the severity of a dangerous virus. Ask yourself why that is. How is it ghoulish to repeat data provided to a military database? Are they lying, in your opinion?
January 25, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: According to data submitted by military doctors, miscarriages increased by over 300% in the past year. The woman very likely chose her child over her own safety. Heartbreaking. Where is this data?
January 25, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Reply guy is extra lonely today, following me into different threads, vying desperately for attention. It's the second time today he came down with the sads because nobody paid attention to something he posted lol.
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