January 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: My comment wasn't directed at you. I don't consider you (or any human really) "like Kz". Thanks, I am built different.
January 27, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Toastrel said: %*^@%*^@%(^%^% The idiot who exposed everyone to COVID three weeks ago, is back in the office, sniffling, coughing and not wearing a mask. 49ers fan too. I mean, it's not COVID anymore obviously. People still get colds.
January 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I mean, it's not COVID anymore obviously. People still get colds. I think the point is that ass hat needs to stay the F home. This really annoyed me even before the pandemic.
January 27, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I think the point is that ass hat needs to stay the F home. This really annoyed me even before the pandemic. There's a balance. It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to stay home every time they have a cough or runny nose. Don't even get me started on kids.
January 27, 20223 yr There's absolutely no downside to forcing young children to mask all day at school even though their chance of becoming seriously ill from covid is infinitesimal...
January 27, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: There's a balance. It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to stay home every time they have a cough or runny nose. Don't even get me started on kids. Unreasonable is the guy showing up to work and spreading his cold/flu/whatever to his co-workers. At the very least, the dewsh needs to put a mask on to limit how many people he infects.
January 27, 20223 yr If you are coughing and your nose is running, and it isn't allergies, stay home. Nobody wants whatever it is.
January 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Unreasonable is the guy showing up to work and spreading his cold/flu/whatever to his co-workers. At the very least, the dewsh needs to put a mask on to limit how many people he infects. Even before the pandemic? Companies simply don't offer a large amount of personal time (in America). I stay home when I'm sick but I have way more vacation time than needed. Most people aren't as lucky.
January 27, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Even before the pandemic? Companies simply don't offer a large amount of personal time (in America). I stay home when I'm sick but I have way more vacation time than needed. Most people aren't as lucky. Those companies suck then and stupid to boot. If they ran the numbers, they'd see how counterproductive it is. Even just providing 10 cent masks and enforcing a policy where the sick must wear them is a small price to pay to avoid the lost productivity of colds/flus running through the workplace unmitigated.
January 27, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Those companies suck then and stupid to boot. If they ran the numbers, they'd see how counterproductive it is. Even just providing 10 cent masks and enforcing a policy where the sick must wear them is a small price to pay to avoid the lost productivity of colds/flus running through the workplace unmitigated. That was never a thing before the pandemic.
January 27, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: That was never a thing before the pandemic. Of course not, neither was a company-wide culture of staying home to prevent loss of productivity from infections spreading though the workplace. My point, of course, is that it should have been a thing. This "tough it out" mentality is counterproductive and the data on this has been clear for a long time and yet it persists even after a pandemic. Boggles the mind.
January 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: That was never a thing before the pandemic. Sure it was. Well, not in the US but it's been a thing in a lot of other places for a long time.
January 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Of course not, neither was a company-wide culture of staying home to prevent loss of productivity from infections spreading though the workplace. My point, of course, is that it should have been a thing. This "tough it out" mentality is counterproductive and the data on this has been clear for a long time and yet it persists even after a pandemic. Boggles the mind. That's up to companies to fix. You think most of those people want to come to work sick? 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Sure it was. Well, not in the US but it's been a thing in a lot of other places for a long time. I'm assuming we're talking strictly in the US and we all know people didn't wear masks here.
January 27, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Kz! said: There's absolutely no downside to forcing young children to mask all day at school even though their chance of becoming seriously ill from covid is infinitesimal... They literally said "there’s no studies out there that show the speech delays are caused by masks” immediately followed by "but it almost definitely is causing speech delays.” 🤣 thats quite a stretch by them. What is sounds like is a bunch of antivax soy moms over reaching to me.
January 27, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Paul852 said: That's up to companies to fix. You think most of those people want to come to work sick? I'm assuming we're talking strictly in the US and we all know people didn't wear masks here. In the cases where not enough sick time is provided to employees, agreed. But we get 10 sick days a year and people still came to work sick all the F'ing time.
January 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm the cases where not enough sick time is provided to employees, agreed. But we get 10 sick days a year and people still came to work sick all the F'ing time. That's not typical. Pretty sure it's 40 hours and that's tough for a lot of people to juggle. Especially those with kids who have to juggle that time between sick kids let alone them being sick.
January 27, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, DBW said: They literally said "there’s no studies out there that show the speech delays are caused by masks” immediately followed by "but it almost definitely is causing speech delays.” thats quite a stretch by them. What is sounds like is a bunch of antivax soy moms over reaching to me. Its definitely the masks and not some other factor like, i dunno, being isolated from other people
January 27, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm the cases where not enough sick time is provided to employees, agreed. But we get 10 sick days a year and people still came to work sick all the F'ing time. I get 5 weeks vacation plus quite a few personal choice holidays. No sick days though. So I have to tough it out.
January 27, 20223 yr Just now, paco said: I get 5 weeks vacation plus quite a few personal choice holidays. No sick days though. So I have to tough it out. I did the math once. I get nearly 8 weeks altogether Only 40 hours of that is sick time though so my company sucks.
January 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: Its definitely the masks and not some other factor like, i dunno, being isolated from other people Yes, other covid-related restrictions/hysteria likely factor into the explosion of speech delays. I agree.
January 27, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Paul852 said: That's not typical. Pretty sure it's 40 hours and that's tough for a lot of people to juggle. Especially those with kids who have to juggle that time between sick kids let alone them being sick. And in those cases, the companies are being stupid. https://hbr.org/2004/10/presenteeism-at-work-but-out-of-it In the cases where enough sick days are provided and people still show up coughing? It's the employees that need to strapped onto a rocket and fired into the sun.
January 27, 20223 yr 30 minutes ago, Kz! said: There's absolutely no downside to forcing young children to mask all day at school even though their chance of becoming seriously ill from covid is infinitesimal... I call absolute BS on this entire narrative. My grand daughter just turned 3, and has no speech delays, and in fact is advanced for that age. More so then her Dad ( my stepson ) who was also ahead of the curve at that age. Maybe if you had raised a child you would know that they actually learn to speak at home before going to school. This is a lazy parenting issue, nothing more.
January 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: And in those cases, the companies are being stupid. https://hbr.org/2004/10/presenteeism-at-work-but-out-of-it I'm not disagreeing with you. Just stating the reality of the situation.
January 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, downundermike said: I call absolute BS on this entire narrative. My grand daughter just turned 3, and has no speech delays, and in fact is advanced for that age. More so then her Dad ( my stepson ) who was also ahead of the curve at that age. Maybe if you had raised a child you would know that they actually learn to speak at home before going to school. This is a lazy parenting issue, nothing more. Amen. Also, not surprised the girl is more advanced than the boy. Seems typical.
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