January 26, 20224 yr They’ll probably die with Covid, not from, after the arrow goes through their heart. https://6abc.com/wild-deer-covid-19-in-animals-new-jersey-wildlife-nj-covid/11508770/?ex_cid=TA_WPVI_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0JlHEVFbz4-ygU7l5sItLj1Ro0sr_H5M7wM3w4HgZuJbCJlq9LcpDin9c
January 26, 20224 yr Weird that hospitalizations reached an all-time high in a country that now allows a fourth booster. Strange that the CDC's data all says that those with the vaxx are something like 2 billion times less likely to require hospitalization and 9 katrillion times less likely to die. So odd.
January 26, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Which is why I believe that getting it is not in my best interests. I have never wanted a disease. I can't imagine saying such a thing. Yup, aside from the risk of long-term symptoms, who wants to be sick like that? I don't want the flu either even though I know I'm vulnerable to getting it even with a vaccine every winter. Saw the bbc reporting this morning that two thirds of people surveyed with a recent covid infection said they had it at least once before. Meaning, omicron can punch through natural immunity as well so getting it now doesn't mean you will have sterilizing immunity for life. Not analogous to chicken pox at all.
January 26, 20224 yr Researchers Have Identified 4 Health Factors That May Explain Why Some People Get Long COVID https://people.com/health/researchers-have-identified-4-health-factors-that-may-explain-why-some-people-get-long-covid/ Quote The researchers followed more than 200 COVID-19 patients for two to three months after their diagnosis and found that regardless of if they had mild or severe cases, they were more likely to have four commonalities. One was a high level of coronavirus RNA in their blood early on in their illness, indicating a high viral load. Another was a history of Epstein-Barr virus, which many people can have at a younger age (typically as mononucleosis) and then lives on in the body. A third factor was having autoantibodies — those found in autoimmune disorders — which mistakenly attack the immune system. And the last factor was type 2 diabetes, though the researchers said that in further studies with more patients it may just be that diabetes is one of many conditions that can lead to long COVID.
January 26, 20224 yr The head of the Norwegian national health department just went on record to say that Norway believes it is better for its citizens to contract COVID now just after their 3rd jab then to contract it down the road when the vaccine's protection will have waned. They base that on the level of protection they believe the 3 jabs provides from the risk of serious illness. Norway is following Denmark and soon Sweden in planning to remove all of its COVID restrictions over the next couple of weeks. So all three of these Scandinavian countries have reached the same conclusion and it is very much based on their overall national health programs. Restrictions are lifted and everyone gets mildly sick (vast majority anyway with few needing hospitalization) until a basic form of herd immunity is reached. Might be short lived if a new variant comes up but that's where these three normally level headed countries have decided to go and the driver is protecting the hospitals from overload in a few months' time. Remember that all three countries have very high rates of fully vaccinated individuals (not kids under 12 though which is another interesting detail).
January 26, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: The head of the Norwegian national health department just went on record to say that Norway believes it is better for its citizens to contract COVID now just after their 3rd jab then to contract it down the road when the vaccine's protection will have waned. They base that on the level of protection they believe the 3 jabs provides from the risk of serious illness. Norway is following Denmark and soon Sweden in planning to remove all of its COVID restrictions over the next couple of weeks. So all three of these Scandinavian countries have reached the same conclusion and it is very much based on their overall national health programs. Restrictions are lifted and everyone gets mildly sick (vast majority anyway with few needing hospitalization) until a basic form of herd immunity is reached. Might be short lived if a new variant comes up but that's where these three normally level headed countries have decided to go and the driver is protecting the hospitals from overload in a few months' time. Remember that all three countries have very high rates of fully vaccinated individuals (not kids under 12 though which is another interesting detail). Does that include mask mandates?
January 26, 20224 yr 53 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Worse even than when Biden called a Fox reporter an idiot. Damn - I hope I don't ever get shingles!
January 26, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Does that include mask mandates? Yes. All measures and restrictions. Denmark has just lifted those entirely. Sweden has never had mask mandates (just recommendations) but all restrictions are due to lift in two weeks. Norway looks to follow though the timeline won't be set until early next week. Ironically I saw more masks in Stockholm today then I've seen at any point in the pandemic. My wife and I were discussing it and we guess it is because Omnicron is literally everywhere right now. Everyone has it or someone in their family has it or they just had it a week or two back.
January 26, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yes. All measures and restrictions. Denmark has just lifted those entirely. Sweden has never had mask mandates (just recommendations) but all restrictions are due to lift in two weeks. Norway looks to follow though the timeline won't be set until early next week. Ironically I saw more masks in Stockholm today then I've seen at any point in the pandemic. My wife and I were discussing it and we guess it is because Omnicron is literally everywhere right now. Everyone has it or someone in their family has it or they just had it a week or two back. Yeah, I've been surprised at the amount of masks I've seen lately especially after seeing the news that cloth masks are pretty much useless now.
January 26, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, mikemack8 said: Damn - I hope I don't ever get shingles! Pretty sure you're joking, but if not, you can get vaccinated against it when eligible. About half of older people who had chicken pox will get shingles if they don't get the shingles vaccine. My brother got shingles in his 30s, before he could ever get the vaccine. My kids will never get it though because they never had chicken pox. Crazy how that family of viruses (herpes) takes up residence in your body for life and then can pop back up years (in this case, decades!) later. EBV is also part of the same family and recently suspected as a potential cause of MS. That ish is F'ed up. Needless to say, we won't be having pox or covid parties anytime soon to purposefully infect our kids.
January 26, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said: The head of the Norwegian national health department just went on record to say that Norway believes it is better for its citizens to contract COVID now just after their 3rd jab then to contract it down the road when the vaccine's protection will have waned. They base that on the level of protection they believe the 3 jabs provides from the risk of serious illness. Norway is following Denmark and soon Sweden in planning to remove all of its COVID restrictions over the next couple of weeks. So all three of these Scandinavian countries have reached the same conclusion and it is very much based on their overall national health programs. Restrictions are lifted and everyone gets mildly sick (vast majority anyway with few needing hospitalization) until a basic form of herd immunity is reached. Might be short lived if a new variant comes up but that's where these three normally level headed countries have decided to go and the driver is protecting the hospitals from overload in a few months' time. Remember that all three countries have very high rates of fully vaccinated individuals (not kids under 12 though which is another interesting detail). Cool guess. I hope he's right. Big gamble.
January 27, 20224 yr https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-doctor-families-sneak-ivermectin-to-loved-ones-in-hospitals-with-covid-19-see-improvement_4235569.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily Florida Doctor: Families Sneak Ivermectin to Loved Ones in Hospitals With COVID-19, See Improvement
January 27, 20224 yr Omicron is for most not a big deal to deal with. But a cavalier attitude towards it is why hospitals are being overrun and healthcare workers are quitting. This is why vaccinations are so important. Israel has been cited, and while plenty of vaccinated and boosted are ending up hospitalized the rates of hospitalization for unvaccinated are still much much higher. The over 60 population is 85% boosted, but only 60% of those over 60 who end up hospitalized are boosted. This is cited of course by morons who think it bolsters their argument that vaccines aren't worth it, bit the huge gap there shows that it is: 40% of hospitalizations are coming from 15% of the population. That's a huge number.
January 27, 20224 yr 22 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Omicron is for most not a big deal to deal with. But a cavalier attitude towards it is why hospitals are being overrun and healthcare workers are quitting. This is why vaccinations are so important. Israel has been cited, and while plenty of vaccinated and boosted are ending up hospitalized the rates of hospitalization for unvaccinated are still much much higher. The over 60 population is 85% boosted, but only 60% of those over 60 who end up hospitalized are boosted. This is cited of course by morons who think it bolsters their argument that vaccines aren't worth it, bit the huge gap there shows that it is: 40% of hospitalizations are coming from 15% of the population. That's a huge number. 100% agree regarding the vaccinations which is the main issue overall. However, I don't think it is a cavalier attitude driving the problem but rather the general failure in the US to reach a high level of vaccination and that is very much due to the polarized political environment and the lack of trust in both the govt and the media.
January 27, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: 100% agree regarding the vaccinations which is the main issue overall. However, I don't think it is a cavalier attitude driving the problem but rather the general failure in the US to reach a high level of vaccination and that is very much due to the polarized political environment and the lack of trust in both the govt and the media. Well when you have half the media devoting hours of the day to undermining the other half, that's what you get. But ratings, right?
January 27, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Well when you have half the media devoting hours of the day to undermining the other half, that's what you get. But ratings, right? It is due to a societal and political failure. We can put a few gems like Fox News in the cross hairs but there is plenty of blame to go around.
January 27, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: It is due to a societal and political failure. We can put a few gems like Fox News in the cross hairs but there is plenty of blame to go around. Politics is in large part driven by society here. Nakedly partisan media has contributed to a more partisan society, which is reflected in more partisan government, which reinforces the media cycle. There's some chicken and egg arguments that could be had, but the major contributor to the heat being turned up here is how people get their "news" now vs 30 years ago. Fox is but one player; traditional media is losing share to crackpots on social media.
January 27, 20224 yr The big downside of social media is everybody's viewpoint, no matter how bat-crap insane it is, can find validation somewhere.
January 27, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Politics is in large part driven by society here. Nakedly partisan media has contributed to a more partisan society, which is reflected in more partisan government, which reinforces the media cycle. There's some chicken and egg arguments that could be had, but the major contributor to the heat being turned up here is how people get their "news" now vs 30 years ago. Fox is but one player; traditional media is losing share to crackpots on social media. Yeah, I more or less agree with this. Social media has played a part. Partisan radio another part. Fox a main contributor. Two party system a part. Trump a big part in putting this whole thing on steroids. Wacky left woke crap yet another player in the game. Overall, I do think the entire shift in how people consume information is the underlying driver. There isn't any filtering going on anymore. While that filtering often restricted important information it also provided a mechanism helping to keep society grounded. That's all gone now.
January 27, 20224 yr Small period changes after Covid jab seen to be short-lived https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60139091 If this is why some of you are holding back from getting the vaccine, it's okay.
January 27, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah, I more or less agree with this. Social media has played a part. Partisan radio another part. Fox a main contributor. Two party system a part. Trump a big part in putting this whole thing on steroids. Wacky left woke crap yet another player in the game. Overall, I do think the entire shift in how people consume information is the underlying driver. There isn't any filtering going on anymore. While that filtering often restricted important information it also provided a mechanism helping to keep society grounded. That's all gone now. People are too stupid on average to have as many choices for media (including news) consumption as we have. We're now at a place where social media is now manufacturing the news and it's being picked up by Fox/MSNBC etc.
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