February 9, 20223 yr "Becoming endemic"≠ endemic. This is coming from the guy who, over a year ago, said we were on the path to this. Until the proper authorities declare the pandemic over and we actually reach endemicity, we need to keep behaving like there's an ongoing pandemic...because there is.
February 9, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's like 2000-3000 people still dying every day in this country, most of whom are unvaccinated. It's still pretty damn relevant. Pretty sure I've seen in here people basically saying F the unvaccinated, so is that all just false bravado? 16 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I care mainly because these idiots are crushing the healthcare system at the expense of others who need treatment unrelated to Covid. They're piling on to a system already filled with burnt out workers. Make the unvaccinated pay a monetary cost for their choice and give hospitals the ability to deprioritize unvaccinated, and sure I'm there. Sooo...do we care about the unvaccinated or not? 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: My dad was upset about it, not me. But yeah I actually was really sad when my coworker passed knowing he left behind two sons and a wife. And yeah, I'm currently infuriated that I have to keep postponing my trip to Chicago to see my friend because it's been impossible to go see him since whenever he's in between chemo treatments there have been covid waves. I don't know what would cause a person to make light of something like this aside from being mentally ill or just a thoroughly rotten person. Maybe both. You're right. Those things are sad. I'm truly sorry coordinating a visit with your friend has been so difficult.
February 9, 20223 yr 32 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: If you want to wear a hazmat suit go for it but don’t tell others they have to by mandate In theory, yes, I get it. Everybody should know how to do the right thing. Except in reality, they don't. Back in December, when the omicron wave was going out of control, I could walk into the store and maybe 1/3 people were wearing masks. Why? They didn't have to. The next day after the local mandate when in effect, everybody was wearing masks. Maybe 1 or 2 people didn't get the message. In practice, mandate works.
February 9, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Pretty sure I've seen in here people basically saying F the unvaccinated, so is that all just false bravado? Sooo...do we care about the unvaccinated or not? You're right. Those things are sad. I'm truly sorry coordinating a visit with your friend has been so difficult. The don’t care about the vaxxed but wear masks to protect the vaxxed and bring up the death rates of the vaxxed as justification to continue to live in fear
February 9, 20223 yr Just your typical chronic suffering after a mild cold. Nothing to be concerned about. Quote OMICRON VARIANT Can you get long COVID after an omicron infection? Many doctors believe it's possible Any long-lasting effects typically appear about 90 days after symptoms of the initial infection go away. By Laura Ungar, AP Science Writer Can you get long COVID after an infection with omicron? It's too early to know for sure, but many doctors believe it's possible to have long-term effects from the omicron variant of the virus. Long COVID is usually diagnosed many weeks after a bout with COVID-19. Any long-lasting effects typically appear about 90 days after symptoms of the initial infection go away, Maria Van Kerkhove of the World Health Organization said this week. Overall, some estimates suggest more than a third of COVID-19 survivors will develop some symptoms of long COVID. Symptoms include fatigue, brain fog, shortness of breath, anxiety and other problems. The lingering illness is more likely if you've been hospitalized with COVID-19, but research shows it can happen even after a mild infection. Omicron began its race around the world late last year. The variant generally causes milder illness than the delta version of the coronavirus, but has still overwhelmed hospitals. Van Kerkhove said she hasn't seen any research indicating that the portion of COVID-19 survivors who get long COVID will change with the omicron variant. Dr. Linda Geng of Stanford University, who co-directs one of the many clinics specializing in long COVID, said that though she can't say for sure, a new wave of patients is likely. "We have to be very cautious and very careful and prepared," Geng said. In the meantime, scientists are racing to figure out what's behind the mysterious condition. Some theories? It may be an autoimmune disorder. Tiny microclots may be causing the disabling symptoms. Or perhaps latent viruses in the body have been reactivated. Scientists are also looking at whether vaccines could be part of the answer. A Yale University team is studying the possibility that vaccination might reduce long COVID symptoms. And two other studies offer early evidence that being vaccinated before getting COVID-19 could help prevent the lingering illness or at least reduce its severity. https://6abc.com/long-covid-omicron-how-lasts-symptoms-can-you-get-from/11548469/?ex_cid=TA_WPVI_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A Trending Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0tu75veLF-9NnImEQlsihY8Pf4l-BxfGCFQTI4BXM8oS23TBQiJdMX99c
February 9, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Sooo...do we care about the unvaccinated or not? Do I care if they suffer consequences of their decisions? At this point, not much no. I have some base level of care and concern for my fellow men, but I also have a limited emotional well and at this point I'm not going to waste a lot of angst on those who have made bad choices. I feel about the same for unvaccinated who get severe or fatal Covid as I do the overweight, middle aged guy who eats cheese steaks 5x a week and ends up having a heart attack at 45. I'm certainly not cheering for people to die either way, but decisions have consequences. I have more concern about how the unvaccinated are impacting access to healthcare, which is a scarce resource that the unvaccinated are disproportionately soaking. That has impacted for EVERYBODY who may be in need of emergency or unexpected care.
February 9, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Just your typical chronic suffering after a mild cold. Nothing to be concerned about. Yes, so common. 14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Do I care if they suffer consequences of their decisions? At this point, not much no. I have some base level of care and concern for my fellow men, but I also have a limited emotional well and at this point I'm not going to waste a lot of angst on those who have made bad choices. I feel about the same for unvaccinated who get severe or fatal Covid as I do the overweight, middle aged guy who eats cheese steaks 5x a week and ends up having a heart attack at 45. I'm certainly not cheering for people to die either way, but decisions have consequences. I have more concern about how the unvaccinated are impacting access to healthcare, which is a scarce resource that the unvaccinated are disproportionately soaking. That has impacted for EVERYBODY who may be in need of emergency or unexpected care. I was just at Doylestown ER last week with my son. In and out in 2.5 hours. I know that's one minor example, but I also have family working in the Jefferson Health system and they have said things are calming back down. I'm sure the inner cities are worse of course.
February 9, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Yes, so common. I was just at Doylestown ER last week with my son. In and out in 2.5 hours. I know that's one minor example, but I also have family working in the Jefferson Health system and they have said things are calming back down. I'm sure the inner cities are worse of course. Calming back down from what?
February 9, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Yes, so common. Um, yeah, I'd say 1/3 is pretty common.
February 9, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Um, yeah, I'd say 1/3 is pretty common. For reference: this is the same guy who said "just a few" people were violent on Jan 6th. We've known for a while these trumpbots are not so good with counting.
February 9, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Um, yeah, I'd say 1/3 is pretty common. 36 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: For reference: this is the same guy who said "just a few" people were violent on Jan 6th. We've known for a while these trumpbots are not so good with counting. "estimates suggest" is not factual evidence. Here's some math for you...all 4 of us in my home had Covid and have no residual effects. 0/4<1/3 And yeah, still sorry to burst your bubble, but out of the very large crowd there on 1/6 for the rally, the overwhelming majority were not violent offenders. Were there some? Of course, and they're scum and I hope they get the book thrown at them. But your narrative of the majority who went there were violent insurrectionists is laughable.
February 9, 20223 yr Well, color me shocked: Right-winger uses anecdotes as a counterargument to expert opinion.
February 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Um, yeah, I'd say 1/3 is pretty common. From the link: Quote Overall, some estimates suggest more than a third of COVID-19 survivors will develop some symptoms of long COVID. Symptoms include fatigue, brain fog, shortness of breath, anxiety and other problems. "Estimates" that one third will develop some symptoms of long COVID. What's "long covid," you ask? well it's everything from actual issues like continued shortness of breath to things like "anxiety" oh and "other problems." Sounds very sciencey!
February 9, 20223 yr I had a little "long covid" the other day when a team I bet $500 on went down by 10 in the second half. No, I've never had coronavirus.
February 9, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I would say my girlfriend and brother both had cases that were borderline mild/moderate. They got over it relatively quickly, but there was a brief period that was extremely unpleasant with symptoms that definitely surpassed that of a "mild cold." The repetitive declarations around here that the "vast, vast majority who get COVID will experience something like a mild cold" seems like yet another right-wing myth. It doesn't square with reality: Mild COVID is still much more unpleasant than a mild cold. Kind of depends how you define a "mild cold”. If the span is "symptom free” to "home with some fever, aches, sore throat, etc for three or four days” then yeah mild cold for the large majority.
February 9, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Kind of depends how you define a "mild cold”. If the span is "symptom free” to "home with some fever, aches, sore throat, etc for three or four days” then yeah mild cold for the large majority. You've had mild colds that cause fevers and aches?
February 9, 20223 yr Anyone else is south Jersey having internet issues? And don’t say I am too poor to pay my bill probably because I am a Russian stooge nato has attacked my internet
February 9, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Anyone else is south Jersey having internet issues? Is Wal Mart's wifi down?
February 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: I had a little "long covid" the other day when a team I bet $500 on went down by 10 in the second half. No, I've never had coronavirus. How do you know?
February 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: I had a little "long covid" the other day when a team I bet $500 on went down by 10 in the second half. No, I've never had coronavirus. What game?
February 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Well, color me shocked: Right-winger uses anecdotes as a counterargument to expert opinion. Figured the gave away that I was being facetious. I'll try harder next time. Meanwhile, continue to post these oh so scientific articles with estimates and "other problems" and proclaim them as fact.
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