February 7, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: If you have a chronic condition that you've been living with and managing for years, and then COVID came along and "put you over the top" (ie., killed you) then the proper documentation would be that you died from COVID with comorbidities listed as complicating factors. As KZ stated, they likely need to revisit and differentiate the "Died from COVID", from the "Died with COVID". It has been widely reported these numbers are conflated.
February 7, 20224 yr Even if you think there is a slight undercount in deaths, which most think is very, very unlikely, the undercount from case numbers is way, way more exaggerated. The bottom line is the mortality rate in this country isn't anywhere close to 1.2% and everyone understands that.
February 7, 20224 yr Deaths are indeed underreported (excess mortality data continues to confirm this) but not to the same degree as infections, especially now that omicron has taken over and at-home tests are so readily available. In other words, deaths might be an undercount by 10% for the sake of this example, but infections are undercount by 100%, etc.
February 7, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Even if you think there is a slight undercount in deaths, which most think is very, very unlikely, the undercount from case numbers is way, way more exaggerated. The bottom line is the mortality rate in this country isn't anywhere close to 1.2% and everyone understands that. Sure, but it's not 0.02% either. And everyone who didn't have to repeat the 3rd grade understands that.
February 7, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Sure, but it's not 0.02% either. And everyone who didn't have to repeat the 3rd grade understands that. It's a lot closer to .02 than it is to 1.2. Big L for little guys who rely on virus stats in lieu of having a real personality.
February 7, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: It's a lot closer to .02 than it is to 1.2. Big L for little guys who rely on virus stats in lieu of having a real personality. Only a mathematically illiterate moron, such as yourself, would ever suggest .02% is the CFR when it's literally impossible to be that low.
February 7, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Only a mathematically illiterate moron, such as yourself, would ever suggest .02% is the CFR when it's literally impossible to be that low.
February 7, 20224 yr For the 900k deaths to result in a CFR of 0.02%, the total population of the US would have to be 4.5B people instead of 330M, and that's only under the assumption that every single person was infected. So yeah, another example of how lifelong brain damage strikes Mr. Lonely yet again. Not that we needed further confirmation.
February 7, 20224 yr Oh right, and even if only 10% were "from" covid, you'd still be wrong. Look, we get it, you're bad at math and reading and basically anything that requires a base level of executive or cognitive brain function. No need to belabor the point.
February 7, 20224 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Oh right, and even if only 10% were "from" covid, you'd still be wrong. Look, we get it, you're bad at math and reading and basically anything that requires a base level of executive or cognitive brain function. No need to belabor the point. He's so mad.
February 7, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: What's missing with all of this? How come we're not bombarded with basic treatment protocol at the first sign of infection? The fatal flaw in your take is the blatant disregard for compassionate treatment of illness. I imagine you believe that if you're sick with the virus, maybe really sick, and you're at home - that there's nothing you can do. I disagree. At the end of the day, we're a compassionate people and we want the sick to heal. We are really dropping the ball big time on this. Because people regularly delay treatment when they're sick. It's better overall for people to prepare themselves and their immune system to quickly fight off infection than to rely on patients to recognize symptoms early and begin an aggressive treatment protocol. The latter just doesn't happen. And because the latter doesn't happen, especially among those who are unvaccinated, you see hospitals overrun with patients - the majority of which are both unvaccinated AND have already delated treatment ruling out early intervention options. Hell my tenant almost lost both her parents because they were too obstinate about both getting vaccinated AND going to the hospital. They rode it out at home and almost died in the process. She was frustrated beyond belief.
February 7, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hell my tenant almost lost both her parents because they were too obstinate about both getting vaccinated AND going to the hospital. They rode it out at home and almost died in the process. She was frustrated beyond belief. Choice
February 7, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Choice Exactly. This is why death counts are up. The virus has gotten more contagious, which has offset the fact that it's generally less severe. Meaning even if chances of a severe case went from 3% to 1.5%, it is more than offset by the fact that cases are more than double what they might have been with Delta's reproduction number. I am at the point where I couldn't care less if idiots decide they still think the risks associated with the vaccine outweigh the risks of catching 'rona. But I don't want them overwhelming hospitals that are already getting hammered. Start charging a premium if you're not vaccinated, and Medicare should just stop paying for treatment of unvaccinated. Or, ya know, people could stop virtue signaling about not getting vaxxed and just accept the fact that both they and the healthcare community will be better off if everybody who could get vaxxed did. But that's not gonna happen.
February 7, 20224 yr https://www.oann.com/cdc-data-reveals-vaccines-are-killing-far-more-children-than-china-virus-itself/ CDC data reveals vaccines are killing far more children than China virus itself
February 7, 20224 yr 16 minutes ago, Procus said: https://www.oann.com/cdc-data-reveals-vaccines-are-killing-far-more-children-than-china-virus-itself/ CDC data reveals vaccines are killing far more children than China virus itself Not buying it until this report is corroborated by newsmaxx and Infowars.
February 7, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Not buying it until this report is corroborated by newsmaxx and Infowars. Also need Tucker to weigh in when he’s done sucking off Putin.
February 8, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Exactly. This is why death counts are up. The virus has gotten more contagious, which has offset the fact that it's generally less severe. Meaning even if chances of a severe case went from 3% to 1.5%, it is more than offset by the fact that cases are more than double what they might have been with Delta's reproduction number. I am at the point where I couldn't care less if idiots decide they still think the risks associated with the vaccine outweigh the risks of catching 'rona. But I don't want them overwhelming hospitals that are already getting hammered. Start charging a premium if you're not vaccinated, and Medicare should just stop paying for treatment of unvaccinated. Or, ya know, people could stop virtue signaling about not getting vaxxed and just accept the fact that both they and the healthcare community will be better off if everybody who could get vaxxed did. But that's not gonna happen. Death counts have more to do about lifestyle choices than they do about the US / China designed virus. Most related deaths included no less than 6 accompanying comorbidities to result in those deaths. I don't care if you or anyone else is "sick to death" of hearing about the risk of the treatment being worse than the disease. To me it is more risk. I've had it. It's effect unnoticeable to anyone but me. Other would know they had it unless they were tested. No risk to that whatsoever. Those treatments side effects pose more risk than that up to and including death. Ironic you have an issue about that virtue signaling considering some of you people can't shut the F up about getting or being vaccinated. Happy for you. Glad you survived it. As soon as people who are fat, drink, smoke pot or cigarettes, eat prepared foods, sky dive, mountain climb, drag race, etc are all surcharged you can count me in comrade. You know what you're really going to get tired of hearing about as time goes on? How much you've allowed yourself to be lied to.
February 8, 20224 yr Nothing being hidden here.... In yet another delay, a Federal Judge issued an order that grants the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) another month to comply with a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request that requires the agency to begin turning over all of the 450,000-plus documents that were analyzed in its decision to approve Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine.
February 8, 20224 yr Socialists (Democrats): ‘Workers of the world unite!’ Canadian truckers: ‘We’re here!’ Socialists (Democrats): ‘Insurrection! Arrest them!’
February 8, 20224 yr 7 hours ago, The_Omega said: Socialists (Democrats): ‘Workers of the world unite!’ Canadian truckers: ‘We’re here!’ Socialists (Democrats): ‘Insurrection! Arrest them!’ Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism.
February 8, 20224 yr 4 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism. A literal Bernie bro posts here, ****.
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