February 8, 20224 yr Wonder if all the HIV is because our servicemen are getting buttf***ed in the Netherlands... Quote Researchers discover HIV variant that's more contagious and more severe circulating in the Netherlands https://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-discover-hiv-variant-more-contagious-more-severe-2022-2
February 8, 20224 yr Quote Dr. Dorit Nitzan explains the difference between Omicron and the new sub-variant, and why there may be bigger issues at hand. While the original Omicron variant first detected in South Africa in late November is still the dominant virus strain in most countries, others are starting to worry about a new sub-variant that has been halting the downward trend in infections – the BA.2 sub-variant. One of three Omicron sub-variants, BA.2 has become the main strain circulating in several countries including Denmark, the UK, India and South Africa. According to a February 3 Financial Times report on the sub-variant, it has as many as 27 mutations that are not found in the original Omicron variant, BA.1. But is this enough to make it a real threat to countries still struggling to recover from the Omicron wave and the unprecedented rate of infections it caused? Public health bodies in both Denmark and the UK have determined the variant to be between 30%-34% more infectious than BA.1, according to the Times, and the UK designated BA.2 to be a variant under investigation back in mid-January. The World Health Organization is also currently investigating it as a Variant of Concern, as they are with all Omicron sub-lineages. Speaking to The Jerusalem Post, Dr. Dorit Nitzan, the WHO's regional emergency director, explained the expected trajectory of the sub-variant, and what it could mean for the future of the pandemic. "The expected trajectory is that it will become the new dominant variant, as once it crosses past a certain threshold it becomes dominant – like we’re seeing in Denmark and the UK,” she said in answer to whether or not other countries can expect to see a similar rise in sub-variant cases in the coming weeks. In terms of the similarities and differences between BA.1 and BA.2, Nitzan explained that the most prominent difference right now is the transmissibility of the sub-variant. However, she said, there does not seem to be a risk of reinfection for those who have already contracted the original Omicron variant, as the two variants are not different enough, although there is not yet enough research to be certain. "It moves from person to person much faster,” she explained. "If you’re with someone in a room who has the virus, you will get it. The moment you take your mask off to drink and eat – you never know when you’ll get it. We can see this in Denmark – it moves so quickly.” Regarding the incubation period – the time between contracting the virus and becoming sick – some people have reported a shorter incubation period of just two to three days after exposure. Others have reported unusually long incubation periods, sometimes taking up to two weeks for symptoms to show after exposure. Nitzan said it’s hard to get an accurate reading of the incubation period in places like the UK and Denmark because so many people are carrying the virus, and a positive case can often not be traced to one specific point of infection. Other than the increased transmissibility of BA.2, she said there are not many significant differences that have been found during initial research into the variant. "There are three main sub-types of Omicron: the original, BA.2 and BA.3, and we are following them and need to be aware of them and to learn more about them,” Nitzan said, before explaining why there are bigger concerns than just one or two Omicron sub-variants. "What we will probably see in Europe is that most of the mutations and changes in the virus will occur now within the Omicron tree, but in the meantime, under our noses in Africa and other places that have no access to vaccines, we might have totally different variants developing right now," she said. "I think that Omicron right now is not the mega-issue. We have to focus on allowing and ensuring vaccine access in other parts of the world.” IN SOME places, 80% of the most vulnerable population have yet to receive even one vaccine, the WHO regional director explained, adding that it would be impossible to say what variants are developing in these areas of the world and to know whether they could be similar to Delta or even worse. "Virus mutations occur in the immunodeficient, and these countries have a lot of malnutrition and chronic or communicable diseases like HIV/AIDS," she said. "And these are the people that the virus likes to stay with for a longer time – their body gives fertile ground to the variants. That’s why we need to focus on them.” Does this mean countries trying to get the variant under control are wasting their time? "It’s good to focus on other variants [like BA.2],” she stressed. "We still need to save lives here and now and we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves and allow the health services to take care of all who need them, not just those with coronavirus.” At the same time, however, she added, "We need to lend a shoulder to the rest of the world, and that will protect us too.” Asked if the vaccine shortages in developing countries means that Omicron and the subsequent BA.2 variant will not mean the "end of the pandemic” as many have been suggesting, Nitzan was skeptical, saying it could be, but only if the rest of the world is provided with the vaccines they are currently lacking. "Omicron gives us hope [for the end of the pandemic] but this is a window of opportunity for us to take care of the rest of the world," she said. "If we do it quickly and in the right way, Omicron could lead us to the end of the pandemic, but if we keep focusing on ourselves and not on the rest of the world, we will not be able to call it the endgame yet.” In conclusion, she said that countries are correct to be vigilant when it comes to the Omicron sub-variants, but there is no use hoping that they signal the end of the pandemic while vulnerable people still lack access to vaccines. "It’s very important that we do everything we need to do locally, but we also have to care globally," Nitzan said. "I don’t think we should stop what we’re doing, but it’s not enough – and we can’t defend ourselves without protecting the rest of the world.” https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-695666
February 8, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism.
February 8, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, Kz! said: A literal Bernie bro posts here, ****. Not really, but...
February 8, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: "I know a guy…” That’s 100% Procus in that video
February 8, 20224 yr On 2/7/2022 at 11:11 AM, EaglesRocker97 said: Still, though, isn't this typical? Viruses become more transmissible as they mutate, and the longer they have to mutate, the more likely this is? So, maybe scientists were caught off guard by how much it jumped, but never publicly acknowledging the possibility of this happening seems to be giving the vaccine-hesitant crowd a lot of fodder right now. Personally, I think the best approach would've been to warn people of the possibility of this happening while stating that getting vaccinated as widely and quickly as possible is the most effective way to impede mutation. But, like I said, this was probably too much nuance for people to handle. If I can get in a CVON aktchully...... Virus's mutate. What it does to them remains to be seen. Some mutations are more transmissible, some are less. The ones that are less are more likely to fizzle out and we are less likely to notice them. Sorry, I'll be quite now and let the desktop doctors here proceed. On 2/7/2022 at 11:11 AM, vikas83 said: Going home later this month -- mom is having surgery. Glad to see this. Step in the right direction. I'm sorry. That sucks. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Needing to go to Delaware
February 8, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: If I can get in a CVON aktchully...... Virus's mutate. What it does to them remains to be seen. Some mutations are more transmissible, some are less. The ones that are less are more likely to fizzle out and we are less likely to notice them. Sorry, I'll be quite now and let the desktop doctors here proceed. You're right, I was maybe a little lazy with my description. Viruses mutate, and through natural selection, the more virulent strains become more prevalent.
February 8, 20224 yr 35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: You're right, I was maybe a little lazy with my description. Viruses mutate, and through natural selection, the more virulent strains become more prevalent. I got the jist of what you mean, I'm just in a CVON nitpicking mood today. I'm having a day (in regards to my new client)
February 8, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, Toty said: The above emoji isn't a rebuttal or challenge to your statement. I just wanted you to see the brief moment of astonished skepticism that was on my face in real life. Socialism is a pretty extreme departure from our existing mixed economy. I have not seen any of the "leftists" here advocate for socializing the means of production. There's some support for nationalizing healthcare, which would represent socializing the cost of healthcare so I suppose that counts, but I don't see the sort of fallacies adherents of late stage capitalism argue with.
February 9, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, Toty said: You were here before me and for all I know you're correct, especially for the most frequent flyers on CVON. I'm mostly just a gadfly. Just once, though, I'd like for a couple of them on here to just out themselves already. Just come right out and say it. There are a handful of them I assure you. If they promise to legalize prostitution I'll don a Che Guevara shirt and start eating Cherry Garcia. I haven't been here super long, I guess longer than you though. There were apparently some left wing crazies that ended up getting banned. Most of the left of center people here seem fairly reasonable (not crazy socialist late-stage-capitalists) to me. VanHammersley, Moss, and EaglesRocker97 are probably the only true lefties that are pretty regular posters. Moss is probably the most left, but he's more garden variety college campus left. Not like activist banging on police in Portland lefty. JSDarkstar is probably the most insane, but he mostly seems to drive by post and doesn't really engage much in back and forth. Most of the rest of us are more anti-Trumplican. Crazy, but we think the guy who prodded his sycophants (that make up far too much of the Republican base) to violently breach the Capitol forcing the Congressional session oversee what was formerly 230ish years of peaceful power transfers to retreat to safety and watch was a bunch of mouth breathing losers sack their offices might represent a more existential threat to the Republic than crazy-within-normal-parameters Democrats.
February 9, 20224 yr Are we still talking about this? I stopped paying attention to Covid nonsense like a month ago and my life has been much better for it. Get your shots, get off Twitter and go back to your life. Find another existential crisis to wring your hands over.
February 9, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Are we still talking about this? I stopped paying attention to Covid nonsense like a month ago and my life has been much better for it. Get your shots, get off Twitter and go back to your life. Find another existential crisis to wring your hands over. The people most hysterical are the ones vaccinated and boosted, yet they say how great the vaccines are which they are but these idiots act like they are in grave danger if they don't wear 3 masks.
February 9, 20224 yr Just had an awful text exchange with my older brother who is a right wing nut bag. His entire house has had Covid so he thinks he’s invincible. My younger bro told us he lost a good friend and coworker today to Covid, 57 years old. He was also a science denier qAtard but a good guy and a good friend to my brother nonetheless. My older brothers comment was "what else did he have (that would have killed him).” Like for real man? And then he proceeds to basically recite the Kkz and Procus show from this entire thread. I wanna to throat punch him so bad. But can’t text that kind of violence. If he wasn’t a Fox News parrot and tuckers echo I might feel sorry for him but at least I know where he gets it.
February 9, 20224 yr After Suing to Keep Masks Just 14 Days Ago, New York Gov. Hochul to Suddenly Lift Statewide Indoor Mask Mandate Does "the science" change fast or what? 🤣
February 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: Are we still talking about this? I stopped paying attention to Covid nonsense like a month ago and my life has been much better for it. Get your shots, get off Twitter and go back to your life. Find another existential crisis to wring your hands over. Says the guy freaking out that the justice department might legally allow safe injection sites.
February 9, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Says the guy freaking out that the justice department might legally allow safe injection sites. When I’m still talking about it in two years, feel free to call me on it. Do you even have an identity at this point without Covid? Not shocking that you think it’s a good thing. Personally just round up all the crackheads and send them to South America. We’re stuck with their best and brightest flooding in, should return the favor.
February 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: When I’m still talking about it in two years, feel free to call me on it. Do you even have an identity at this point without Covid? Not shocking that you think it’s a good thing. Personally just round up all the crackheads and send them to South America. We’re stuck with their best and brightest flooding in, should return the favor. Yeah it's totally weird people are still talking about something that kills 3k people a day. We know idiots like you are told by Tucker Carlson to think that's no big deal, because 100k "mild deaths" in the last month from a "mild cold" pales in comparison to the green M&M wearing sneakers instead of heels. Your comments can literally apply to every single post in CVON. You don't think you'll still be here queefing about Biden in two years? Yeah, buy a mirror, because it's exactly what you're gonna be doing instead of "going back to your life." Oh and if you need money to hire a tutor to help you learn how to read, just let me know. Because I never said or implied anywhere in my post that the justice department decision was a "good thing", just nothing I'm gonna wring my hands over because it doesn't impact my life whatsoever.
February 9, 20224 yr On 2/7/2022 at 11:11 AM, vikas83 said: Going home later this month -- mom is having surgery. Glad to see this. Step in the right direction. Where in Delaware are you from?
February 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yeah it's totally weird people are still talking about something that kills 3k people a day. We know idiots like you are told by Tucker Carlson to think that's no big deal, because 100k "mild deaths" in the last month from a "mild cold" pales in comparison to the green M&M wearing sneakers instead of heels. Your comments can literally apply to every single post in CVON. You don't think you'll still be here queefing about Biden in two years? Yeah, buy a mirror, because it's exactly what you're gonna be doing instead of "going back to your life." Oh and if you need money to hire a tutor to help you learn how to read, just let me know. Because I never said or implied anywhere in my post that the justice department decision was a "good thing", just nothing I'm gonna wring my hands over because it doesn't impact my life whatsoever. Tucker, Biden, M&M’s, buy a mirror, blah, blah, blah. So much deflection and ridiculous assumptions. Those 3k are vastly unvaccinated morons, what do you care? It’s trending downward as well, hence the ease of restrictions occurring even in NY and CA. Time to step down off your soapbox, throw out the masks, and rejoin normal society. I promise it’ll be ok, little man. And no thanks on the loan, I’m more than comfortable. Thanks!
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