Wonder who leads in here?  I've only had three so for sure not me.

On 3/1/2024 at 4:13 PM, The_Omega said:

 

oh wow...breaking news 4 years ago. 

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Wonder who leads in here?  I've only had three so for sure not me.

4 for me. 1, 2, 3 and 5. 

1 minute ago, paco said:

4 for me. 1, 2, 3 and 5. 

you're a F'ng cyborg by now with four doses of nanobots injected into you. 

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

you're a F'ng cyborg by now with four doses of nanobots injected into you. 

32 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Wonder who leads in here?  I've only had three so for sure not me.

I got 2. 

On 3/1/2024 at 4:13 PM, The_Omega said:

Hence the mask mandates. Back in the Wild West days of COVID, you had positive people out walking around. The point was that the masks would stop them from aerosoling their bodily fluids. A mask isn’t dense enough to stop a virus. It is dense enough to stop saliva and mucus.

16 minutes ago, Bill said:

Hence the mask mandates. Back in the Wild West days of COVID, you had positive people out walking around. The point was that the masks would stop them from aerosoling their bodily fluids. A mask isn’t dense enough to stop a virus. It is dense enough to stop saliva and mucus.

Yes. That was the hardest thing to get through these idiots' heads.

My mask protects others from me. YOUR mask protects me from you. 

46 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Yes. That was the hardest thing to get through these idiots' heads.

My mask protects others from me. YOUR mask protects me from you. 

But the Vax was supposed to keep you from getting, and spreading, the virus according to the experts. So some idiots didn't believe in masks and some idiots believed the Vax stopped you from getting and spreading covid. 

1 hour ago, Bill said:

Hence the mask mandates. Back in the Wild West days of COVID, you had positive people out walking around. The point was that the masks would stop them from aerosoling their bodily fluids. A mask isn’t dense enough to stop a virus. It is dense enough to stop saliva and mucus.

For cloth masks, yes. But even then, cloth masks weren't completely worhless to protect the wearer, they just didn't provide as much protection as surgical or N95s did. In other words, a cloth mask was still far better than nothing if you had to be in a situation with potential exposure to someone who was infected.

3 minutes ago, GreenReaper said:

But the Vax was supposed to keep you from getting, and spreading, the virus according to the experts. So some idiots didn't believe in masks and some idiots believed the Vax stopped you from getting and spreading covid. 

And it did, for wild-type, Alpha, and even to an extent against Delta. It wasn'y until Omicron when that really changed.

4 minutes ago, GreenReaper said:

But the Vax was supposed to keep you from getting, and spreading, the virus according to the experts. So some idiots didn't believe in masks and some idiots believed the Vax stopped you from getting and spreading covid. 

Vaccines are not 100%.

But statistics show they clearly reduced the spread and severity of early Covid strains, and continued to reduce severity for later strains even if transmission rates were only marginally reduced. 

The anti-vaccine position is motivated by politics. Not science.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

For cloth masks, yes. But even then, cloth masks weren't completely worhless to protect the wearer, they just didn't provide as much protection as surgical or N95s did. In other words, a cloth mask was still far better than nothing if you had to be in a situation with potential exposure to someone who was infected.

I get what you’re saying. Just to be pedantic about it, while a cloth or surgical mask are obviously better than nothing, there is a reason why most studies on mask efficacy almost completely ignore inhalation control with cloth or surgical masks. A N/KN95 mask is quite substantial for inhalation control in an everyday, but leagues ahead of a cloth or surgical mask.  I’m not by any means completely trashing them as a method of inhalation control, but their main purpose is exhalation control. It’s one of those things where if there’s an outbreak and you have any significant co-morbidities, then you should be wearing a 95 type mask. Otherwise a surgical mask is fine, but there needs to be an understanding that those types are more about the greater good than covering your own a**. 
 

Though, the crux of the issue is that you have a large group of people who just don’t care about other people. Even with rugged individualism, you’re still supposed to help the wagon train fend off the attack, not refuse to wheel your Conestoga into the circle because you don’t give an ish about others and you want to make good time to Oregon. 

4 minutes ago, Bill said:

I get what you’re saying. Just to be pedantic about it, while a cloth or surgical mask are obviously better than nothing, there is a reason why most studies on mask efficacy almost completely ignore inhalation control with cloth or surgical masks. A N/KN95 mask is quite substantial for inhalation control in an everyday, but leagues ahead of a cloth or surgical mask.  I’m not by any means completely trashing them as a method of inhalation control, but their main purpose is exhalation control. It’s one of those things where if there’s an outbreak and you have any significant co-morbidities, then you should be wearing a 95 type mask. Otherwise a surgical mask is fine, but there needs to be an understanding that those types are more about the greater good than covering your own a**. 
 

Though, the crux of the issue is that you have a large group of people who just don’t care about other people. Even with rugged individualism, you’re still supposed to help the wagon train fend off the attack, not refuse to wheel your Conestoga into the circle because you don’t give an ish about others and you want to make good time to Oregon. 

We'll never see a better example of Tragedy of the Commons.

I've had two.  The second one made me so sick I thought I was going to have to go to the ER.  I'm stopping at two.

15 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Yes. That was the hardest thing to get through these idiots' heads.

My mask protects others from me. YOUR mask protects me from you. 

 

and some are still surprised to hear this...4 years later.   

2 hours ago, sameaglesfan said:

I've had two.  The second one made me so sick I thought I was going to have to go to the ER.  I'm stopping at two.

The first shot was fine.  The second shot made me sleepy.  Like literally all day long I was in and out of naps.  Schmoopie on the other hand had a really bad flu like reaction to the second shot.  

 

When I got my 3rd one I really don't remember side effects.  My 4th one (which was the 5th available booster), I felt "off" but nothing more.... but I should mention I also got my flu shot at the same time.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

The first shot was fine.  The second shot made me sleepy.  Like literally all day long I was in and out of naps.  Schmoopie on the other hand had a really bad flu like reaction to the second shot.  

 

When I got my 3rd one I really don't remember side effects.  My 4th one (which was the 5th available booster), I felt "off" but nothing more.... but I should mention I also got my flu shot at the same time.

I had the same ones and had the same reactions to each.  

If I remember correctly the 1st vaccine was 2 shots.  Then I had a booster some months later.  I felt no side effects other than a sore arm.  I caught the covid twice.  Last September was the last time.  Got thru it with just over the counter meds.

If you recall, I lost someone I know to this. I keep in touch with my girlfriend as we have much in common now being widows. 

Also have a co worker that survived being on a ventilator.  He is doing fine, I think his youth had a lot to do with it.  He was not vaccinated at the time.

@DEagle7, in all seriousness - without horse jokes and as a physician - what say you about this article?

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(24)00064-1/fulltext

On 3/7/2024 at 10:54 AM, DiPros said:

If I remember correctly the 1st vaccine was 2 shots.  Then I had a booster some months later.  I felt no side effects other than a sore arm.  I caught the covid twice.

That just means it's working.

On 3/6/2024 at 12:15 PM, DrPhilly said:

Wonder who leads in here?  I've only had three so for sure not me.

 

let's just say that i'm on to my 2nd vaccination card because i ran out of room on the first.   

 

and i didn't have side effects to any of them. they only made me stronger    

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

 

let's just say that i'm on to my 2nd vaccination card because i ran out of room on the first.   

 

and i didn't have side effects to any of them. they only made me stronger    

You still have your card?

12 hours ago, Procus said:

@DEagle7, in all seriousness - without horse jokes and as a physician - what say you about this article?

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(24)00064-1/fulltext

From your article:

"Interpretation

Ivermectin for COVID-19 is unlikely to provide clinically meaningful improvement in recovery, hospital admissions, or longer-term outcomes. Further trials of ivermectin for SARS-Cov-2 infection in vaccinated community populations appear unwarranted."

In all seriousness, ivermectin if taken in appreciate doses, isn't going to make your head explode. But at this point, much like vaccines and autism we have wasted resources on over researching its effectiveness in preventing/treating covid. It's just not helpful. We should have moved on years ago