This could have helped.

 

5 minutes ago, toolg said:

This could have helped.

 

But that could have caused a panic! Do you really want that on your hands?

13 minutes ago, toolg said:

This could have helped.

 

Panic?  Everyone had been in lockdown for weeks by early April.  Their excuses are so pathetic.

11 minutes ago, toolg said:

This could have helped.

 

Jesus F'ing Christ!!!

If this is true, I honestly don't know how anyone with even a semblance of morality can still defend this ish. This isn't some personal belief debate or pointless discussion on arbitrary decisions, this is tens of thousands of lives in the early stages of a pandemic hanging in the balance. Blood that will forever be on his hands. All because of some anti-science bullsheet reasoning that "masks might do more harm than good." What a fat disgusting piece of ish.

11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

But that could have caused a panic! Do you really want that on your hands?

It speaks volumes to his weak leadership.  Yes, you want to do everything you can to keep a panic from starting.  If he came out with "Ok, this is going to be hard and if we are not careful this will get out of control so if we don't do X, Y, and Z there could be many many deaths", we could have went down a better path AND not had panic.  Instead, here we are.

 

 

Hell, even the joker knew society could withstand horrible s*** as long as there is a plan.

that is insane. how can anyone still want to vote for that POS ? 

6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

And you picked this out of the 100s of studies that have been published because it stood out for its scientific merit right? 

You're a clown.

I picked it out because, unlike most other scientific papers, it’s being censored by social media.

Cancel culturing a scientific claim from a prominent Chinese scientist who literally put her life on the line to say what she said is pretty mind boggling in my view. If other scientists want to contest her claims, that’s fine and in fact exactly what should be done. That’s how science works. You don’t just crap down anything that is politically unappealing.

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

I picked it out because, unlike most other scientific papers, it’s being censored by social media.

Cancel culturing a scientific claim from a prominent Chinese scientist who literally put her life on the line to say what she said is pretty mind boggling in my view. If other scientists want to contest her claims, that’s fine and in fact exactly what should be done. That’s how science works. You don’t just crap down anything that is politically unappealing.

Ok chief.

2 hours ago, paco said:

Europe may be spiking again  

 

A decent curve forming north of the border again...

As of right now, deaths/ICU/vents are at their lowest point since March despite the recent upward swing in positive cases. I'm guessing we don't see a big increase even as cases rise, but it will be interesting to monitor. I think we're in for a moderate positive caseload and a slow burn with fairly low deaths/ICU/vents until a vaccine is ready. 

 

3 hours ago, TEW said:

I picked it out because, unlike most other scientific papers, it’s being censored by social media.

Cancel culturing a scientific claim from a prominent Chinese scientist who literally put her life on the line to say what she said is pretty mind boggling in my view. If other scientists want to contest her claims, that’s fine and in fact exactly what should be done. That’s how science works. You don’t just crap down anything that is politically unappealing.

They already have, hence the "censorship" from the big bad meany head companies. But we all know that's not the reason why you latched onto it. The real reason is because it deflects from the fact that your boy has botched the handling of this since day 1. Time to face reality, he's a moron and a danger to the citizens of this country. And no amount of hand waving, or name calling of the "Chinese virus" will change that.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They already have, hence the "censorship" from the big bad meany head companies. But we all know that's not the reason why you latched onto it. The real reason is because it deflects from the fact that your boy has botched the handling of this since day 1. Time to face reality, he's a moron and a danger to the citizens of this country. And no amount of hand waving, or name calling of the "Chinese virus" will change that.

Sure, but what if TEW just really really REALLY doesn't like the Chinese? Does that do anything for you?

He's probably at least 89th percentile. Maybe.

 

(No.)

10 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Sure, but what if TEW just really really REALLY doesn't like the Chinese? Does that do anything for you?

He's probably at least 89th percentile. Maybe.

 

(No.)

TEW not liking someone because of their race? What a completely unfounded and baseless accusation!

28 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

TEW not liking someone because of their race? What a completely unfounded and baseless accusation!

well, he's no Kz, but..

Euro countries are moving into their 2nd waves now.  Several are slowing things back down but no one has gone back to lockdown.

 

apparently they found out the student was positive because rumors were going around school and someone called and checked

Smh...

48 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Euro countries are moving into their 2nd waves now.  Several are slowing things back down but no one has gone back to lockdown.

Do the new outbreaks seem to be clustered around anything in particular? Schools etc?

https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-blocked-usps-from-sending-face-masks-to-all-households-2020-9

• The White House scuttled a plan to partner with the US Postal Service to send every American a face mask, The Washington Post reported on Thursday. 
• A draft press release obtained by The Post showed that the Postal Service was preparing to send out 650 million face masks in April to supply every household with them. 
• However, a senior administration official told The Post that the White House nixed the plan because officials thought "receiving masks might create concern or panic." 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Do the new outbreaks seem to be clustered around anything in particular? Schools etc?

I've seen reports in the Nordic countries that point to clusters but not schools so much no.  One report in particular was a factory which was in Norway.

Swedish numbers just out.  Nothing much to report.  There is a mini increase in positive cases over the last two weeks but all other number are down and Sweden's weekly new case numbers, R-number, admission into COVID wards, etc. are all running lower than neighboring Nordic countries.  Have to keep an eye on that positive cases trend to see if this is a little mini back to school type bump like the back from vacation bump we saw in the middle of August or something bigger.

In any case, Denmark, Norway, and now Iceland are all turning up the restrictions again.  Not sure yet if they go back to lockdown or more toward the milder Swedish model from several months back.

 

Edit: I looked a little closer at the numbers and Sweden is now down to 1.2% rate of tests being positive.  That's the lowest since the real more wide spread testing started.  However, there are significantly more tests being carried out now so the confirmed cases number is slightly higher the last couple of weeks.

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-blocked-usps-from-sending-face-masks-to-all-households-2020-9

• The White House scuttled a plan to partner with the US Postal Service to send every American a face mask, The Washington Post reported on Thursday. 
• A draft press release obtained by The Post showed that the Postal Service was preparing to send out 650 million face masks in April to supply every household with them. 
• However, a senior administration official told The Post that the White House nixed the plan because officials thought "receiving masks might create concern or panic." 

What kind of face mask? A disposable one that lasts you a whole day if your lucky?

14 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

What kind of face mask? A disposable one that lasts you a whole day if your lucky?

reusable masks. 

Everyday it's something else.

2 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

What kind of face mask? A disposable one that lasts you a whole day if your lucky?

A surgical mask can absolutely last longer than a day.