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The 2020 Corona Thread

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6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Yeah we did the same.  Wife is an OBGYN so she's scanning herself occasionally at work so she knew she'd find out at some point regardless so no point in keeping it a secret.  We got boy. Didn't have much of a preference outside of not having a much harder time thinking of boy names that don't suck.

Not being able to be there for the scans is pretty frustrating but facetiming/filming the ultrasounds helps. Knowing the sex makes it much more real.

That's funny, we were having the hardest time coming up with boy names we liked, seemed much easier for us to pick girl names. Also we have told minimal people the name, people's opinions on names are so annoying.

Yeah def makes it real. Seeing the anatomy scan last week and seeing her kicking around in there and looking like an actual human now has made it super real. I've been doing a lot of reading and organizing crap around the house since then lol. I'm glad I work from home and my job isn't super demanding right now so I've been able get a ton of stuff done during the days.

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    Im home! Pulse ox on room air in the mid 90s. Feeling much better! Thank you for all of the well wishes.  I tested negative on Thursday and again this morning.  F u covid, you can suck muh deek

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    Hey everyone.  Im still in the hospital.  No ventilator.  No visitors.  Breathing treatments multiple times a day. Chest xrays every other day. Pulse oxygen is 89% with a nonrebreather mask running fu

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21 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

That's funny, we were having the hardest time coming up with boy names we liked, seemed much easier for us to pick girl names. Also we have told minimal people the name, people's opinions on names are so annoying.

Yeah def makes it real. Seeing the anatomy scan last week and seeing her kicking around in there and looking like an actual human now has made it super real. I've been doing a lot of reading and organizing crap around the house since then lol. I'm glad I work from home and my job isn't super demanding right now so I've been able get a ton of stuff done during the days.

We didn't find out the sex (my daughter turned 12 this past Saturday) - it was exciting for us not knowing.  As luck would have it, we were in agreement on a girl's name but not at all on a boy's name :lol: 

lmao

1 hour ago, BirdsFanBill said:

That's funny, we were having the hardest time coming up with boy names we liked, seemed much easier for us to pick girl names. Also we have told minimal people the name, people's opinions on names are so annoying.

Yeah def makes it real. Seeing the anatomy scan last week and seeing her kicking around in there and looking like an actual human now has made it super real. I've been doing a lot of reading and organizing crap around the house since then lol. I'm glad I work from home and my job isn't super demanding right now so I've been able get a ton of stuff done during the days.

I'd recommend Emily Oster's "Expecting Better" about pregnancy and "Crib sheet" about newborns. Good information on fact vs myth of pregnancy/kids and synthesis of the data. No mommy blog crap. 

And fully agree we're not telling anyone our names until the kid is out and it's too late for them to talk trash. No one needs that negativity, picking one out is stressful enough. 

We didn't tell anyone the name, but we did find out the sex and told people so that they could buy more gender specific gifts for the baby shower if they wanted to.

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We didn't tell anyone the name, but we did find out the sex and told people so that they could buy more gender specific gifts for the baby shower if they wanted to.

See that's the only reason we almost didn't tell people the sex.  Didn't want any princess/fairy gear etc if it was a girl.  It's a baby ain't nobody got time for that crap. Kids gonna wear a burlap sack until they can talk hopefully.

Lmao Fauci said during this press conference that one of the new things with this administration is that if you don’t know the answer to something you don’t just guess. 

4 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

If you don't know the difference between a plan and the execution of a plan there isn't much more for us to discuss on the topic.

If you read my posts in the last couple pages I've explained multiple times what isn't working and why.  Good day sir!

Sweden’s plan was and is a failure!!!!

8 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Sooooooooo surprised 

 

Report: Biden Admin Discovers Trump Had Zero Plans For COVID Vaccine Distribution

As they were settling into the White House on Wednesday, Biden administration officials were reportedly stunned to discover that President Joe Biden’s predecessor didn’t have a plan with regards to distributing the COVID-19 vaccine.A source told CNN on Thursday morning that the new administration will "have to build everything from scratch” thanks to former President Donald Trump’s reported lack of strategy with the vaccine rollout.

"There is nothing for us to rework,” they said.

Biden will have to start from "square one,” said another source, who called Trump’s nonexistent distribution plan "just further affirmation of complete incompetence

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/report-biden-admin-discovers-trump-had-zero-plans-for-covid-vaccine-distribution

Fake news.  Fauci said today they are not starting from scratch.

6 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Yeah we did the same.  Wife is an OBGYN so she's scanning herself occasionally at work so she knew she'd find out at some point regardless so no point in keeping it a secret.  We got boy. Didn't have much of a preference outside of not having a much harder time thinking of boy names that don't suck.

Not being able to be there for the scans is pretty frustrating but facetiming/filming the ultrasounds helps. Knowing the sex makes it much more real.

That's awesome!  Ha that's funny about the names.  We had a girl named picked out instantly, and then turns out we were having a boy.   We didn't settle on a name until like a month or two before his was born.  

9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The scientific evidence that masks are effective in reducing the spread is overwhelming. 

There

Is

No

Debate

The scientific evidence shows boys have a "P & XY" and girls have a "V & XX".  There is no debate.

7 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

We got boy.  Knowing the sex makes it much more real.

Congratulations on the XY!

 

30 minutes ago, NVeagle said:

The scientific evidence shows boys have a "P & XY" and girls have a "V & XX".  There is no debate.

One of the more bizarre non-sequiturs I've seen on here. Good job.

Mom and dad got their first dose this week. No underlying conditions, but both over 70 and PA residents. Make sure your parents get an appointment. 

31 minutes ago, NVeagle said:

Congratulations on the XY!

 

...thank you?

My wife got her shot today (qualified due to health conditions).  My mom signed up as a volunteer to give the shot in NJ (she’s a retired nurse who got her license extended so she could help give shots).  She’ll get her first shot on her first day of volunteering next week.

10 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

We got boy. Didn't have much of a preference outside of not having a much harder time thinking of boy names that don't suck.

When the wife and I were picking names for our kids, I always found the most difficult part of the process was the association aspect. Some names are just forever tainted. 

Wife: "If we have a boy, a name I'd really like to consider is Noah."

Me: "Oh we can't do that. When I was in the second grade I had to sit next to a kid named Noah and he picked his nose and smelled like stale milk. Next."

10 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Sweden’s plan was and is a failure!!!!

Thanks for yet another confirmation but we already knew you don't know the difference between a plan and the execution of a plan.

Duh images on Favim.com

30 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said:

Duh images on Favim.com

Sadly, the reason COVID is doing so well is because just won't follow simple precautions.

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

Covid-19 Has Nearly Wiped Out the Flu—How Do We Keep It From Coming Back?

Mask-wearing and higher vaccination rates have contributed to historically low levels of seasonal influenza

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-has-nearly-wiped-out-the-fluhow-do-we-keep-it-from-coming-back-11611230410

Weird. It's almost like masks work after all. I guess we'll just never know how though, must be magic.

Chappelle tested positive

1/17/21 Update from the Doc

https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2021/01/11721-covid-19-update.html

It is unfair to criticize now, decisions made by various scientists and medical leadership eight and ten months ago when little was known about this virus.  In many of the interviews that I had watched, the more cautious would preface their answers and statements by asking to be questioned in two weeks so that they could correct their mistakes.
 
I don't think that getting the Federal government more involved at the state level in distribution of the vaccine is going to help.  I doubt that any of the leadership at the Ford motor company would be of much assistance on the production line.  We are witnessing state public health departments which have rarely, if ever, had to function in crisis mode, flounder.  The peace time navy was ill prepared for the challenges of World War II.  There was just a piece in JAMA this week lamenting the deterioration of skills of the Army medical corps that is likely to occur now that there are few conflicts.  The author points to lack of skills that were evident at the beginning of each conflict in the past, which probably cost lives.
 
As things improve, and they are improving, I would like to point out that twice in the last week, we have given over one million doses of the vaccine in a day.  I would hope that someone in Washington is smart enough to pick up the phone and call the people with boots on the ground to ask how they can assist, instead of assuming that the fed knows best. 
 
COVID LONG HAULERS - CHRONIC COMPLICATIONS
Anthony Komaroff
Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
1-7-21
 
As we are all well aware, there is a wide variation in clinical expression to Covid-19 disease, from totally asymptomatic to severe disability and death.  The virus is known to attack the kidney, lungs, brain and heart.
 
Of 128 patients requiring hospitalization, at 10 weeks post symptom onset, 52% were were reporting persistent fatigue.
 
Myalgic Encephalitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is known to develop after other acute infections, Lymes disease, Epstein-barr disease, Ebola, and West Nile virus.  This syndrome is associated with decreased energy, social withdrawal, loss of libido, depression and decreased cognitive function.  This may result from a failure to "turn off" an acute protective response of the brain to such infections.
 
Currently this a concern without much in the way of diagnostics or treatments.
 
6 MONTH CONSEQUENCES OF COVID-19 IN PATIENTS DISCHARGED FROM HOSPITAL:  A COHORT STUDY
C. Huang, MD
Lancet 1-8-21
 
This was a cohort study of patients from Jin Yin-ton Hospital in Wuhan, China of patients with diagnosed Covid-19 from 1-7-20 to 5-29 20
who were ambulatory and had no pre-Covid-19 cognitive difficulties.
 
Patients were interviewed with a series of questionnaires and 6-minute walking test.
 
Of 2469 patients discharged with Covid-19, approximately 1000 met inclusion criteria and completed the follow up protocol.  Median age was 57, 53% male, median follow up time after symptom onset was 186 days.
63% had fatigue and muscle weakness
23% had sleeping difficulties
24% fell below the lower limit of the median 6 minute walking distance
22-55% had pulmonary diffusion abnormalities, the severity of which were directly correlated with the severity of their Covid-19 disease
13% developed renal insufficiency.
 
There have been 23,253,252 cases of Covid-19 in the US as of 1-14-21.  About 5% of the cases require hospitalization, which in the case of the US would represent 1,162,662 patients.  If the US cases parallel those from China, this will represent a tremendous disease burden going forward, which little is being written about, and appears to be under appreciated.
 
MITIGATION POLICIES AND COVID-19 - ASSOCIATED MORTALITY - 37 EUROPEAN  COUNTRIES: January 23 - June 30
Weekly Morbidity and Mortality Report
J.A. Fuller, PhD
1-15-21
Most European countries implemented strict mitigation policies, including closure of of non-essential business and mandating stay at home orders.  These came with significant social and economic costs.  At the time, it appeared that mostly the old and infirm were dying or seriously affected.  Now that follow up studies are bringing to light the toll of long term health problems in survivors of moderate and even mild disease the risk benefit ratio of these policies takes on a new light.
 
The impact of timing of the institution of mitigation policies has been studied. Data was obtained from the CDC Covid-19 International task force global mitigation database and the University of Oxford Covid Government Response tracker, specifically the Oxford stringency Index which grades the strictness of mitigation.
 
The data showed that countries that instituted stricter mitigation policies and also earlier implementation (as little as two weeks) effected morbidity and mortality on a long term basis beyond relaxation of mitigation.
 
This parallels the response of mitigation to the Spanish Flu of 1918.
 
SARS-CoV-2 TRANSMISSION FROM PEOPLE WITHOUT COVID-19 SYMPTOMS
Michael A. Johansson, PhD
JAMA 1-7-21
 
This author used a decision analytic model to assess the relationship of transmission from pre-symptomatic and never symptomatic individuals. All estimates were derived from meta-analysis of eight studies from China,  The infectious period was estimated to be 10 days.
 
35% of transmission was estimated to come from pre-symptomatic cases, 24% from never symptomatic cases.
 
EVALUATION FOR MYOCARDITIS IN COMPETITIVE STUDENT ATHLETES RECOVERING FRO CORONAVIRUS 2019 WITH CARDIAC MRI
J. Starekova, MD
JAMA Cardiology 1-14-21
 
145 student athletes were examined.  77% with mild to moderate disease, 17 % asymptomatic, 0% severe. (not sure what happened to 6%)
 
1.4% had findings consistent with myocarditis.  27.5% had a high burden of abnormal findings on MRI, the significance of which are unknown at this time.
 
1.4% doesn't seem to be much in this group of young healthy students, unless one of them is yours.
 
NUMBERS
 
Immunizations  - We have now given 13.7 million injections.  2.04 million people have received two injections. In the past week we have averaged 849,387 injections per day.  A goal of one million injections per day is underwhelming, especially as we open distribution to larger segments of the population.  Leadership at CVS has stated that they alone have the capacity to perform a million injections a day.
 
The new administrations, as if they have an "invisible hand", talks of "ramping" up production.  Both Moderna and Pfizer, have stated, on more than one occasion, their production capabilities for 2021. Any talk of  "ramping" this up is a chimera.  We will soon be limited in daily injections by supply.
 
The Oxford vaccine, which also requires two shots, but further apart, may be approved in the latter part of February, but at a reported 70% efficiency, will leave many unprotected.  Thirty million people receiving this vaccine will leave nine million unprotected, who do not know that they are unprotected.
 
Case Fatality Rate - has ticked up to 1.1% 
Our case fatality rate in the US is most certainly influenced by the fact that we have many living longer with comorbidities than in other countries.  We have a higher percentage of long term care residents than most other countries and they represented and continue to represent a majority of our deaths.
 
Weekly new cases - up 7% but down from 8.3% a week ago
 
Deaths - 395,851 (23,241 in the last seven days)  This upcoming week, we will eclipse the number of US military deaths of World War II (405,389)
 
Hospital bed utilization - 126,399 (down from 130,777 from last week)
 
Have a good day
 
Live safer
Be Well
 
17 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

1/17/21 Update from the Doc

As always, a very useful summary from the Doc.  Thank you (and him) for providing this info regularly.

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