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The vaccine effort has been a bit of a clusterF everywhere best I can tell, but PA seems as if it has been particularly bad. Granted that may be more related to knowing so many people in that area but still

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27 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Between the incompetence and just the impossibility to get everyone vaccinated quickly, how can anyone see this thing ending in the next few years if ever. It is almost guaranteed they tell everyone no gatherings for thanksgiving and christmas this year

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13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The vaccine effort has been a bit of a clusterF everywhere best I can tell, but PA seems as if it has been particularly bad. Granted that may be more related to knowing so many people in that area but still

Without looking it up, I thought I heard somewhere recently that PA had the lowest # of vaccines administered in the lower 48.  I'm assuming that meant % vs population.

14 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Without looking it up, I thought I heard somewhere recently that PA had the lowest # of vaccines administered in the lower 48.  I'm assuming that meant % vs population.

Close. Looks like Alabama is worse. 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/us-states

42 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

To be fair, if it spares your family from having to hear you go on for 4 hours about SIDs or the Armenian Genocide, is it maybe worth it?

The world is a mess -_-

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Close. Looks like Alabama is worse. 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/us-states

Always want to have something in common with Alabama <_<

34 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The vaccine effort has been a bit of a clusterF everywhere best I can tell, but PA seems as if it has been particularly bad. Granted that may be more related to knowing so many people in that area but still

But don't worry magically by the end of the year it will all be over

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

But don't worry magically by the end of the year it will all be over

FFS dude get a Xanax prescription already. 

Over the past several weeks, everyone from elected officials to health experts in Pennsylvania have rattled off several factors that they feel have contributed to the slow roll out of vaccines in the state. Some have criticized the state for its patchwork system of distribution, its complicated guidelines and the poor job it has done in communicating who gets what and when and where.   

https://www.chestercounty.com/2021/02/17/347709/county-health-department-rushes-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-to-residents

 

PA and my county are sucking big time.  In this article it also says about the other locations, pharmacies, and such.  Tried to click the map and page can't be displayed.  I know several people who got vaccinated in Lancaster Co. or Delaware Co.

Oh, but if you know someone and someone misses an appointment, (like at the Red Clay Room in my town), they call people on this list.  Um, that's one too many lists!

So where is everything running smoothly ?

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3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

FFS dude get a Xanax prescription already. 

Does that come in liquid form? I don't like pills

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

So where is everything running smoothly ?

New Mexico is doing well.

Just now, DiPros said:

New Mexico is doing well.

Well that's encouraging

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

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No but in 2024 it will be the case

5 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Does that come in liquid form? I don't like pills

Suppository ok?

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Suppository ok?

:nonono:

8 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Does that come in liquid form? I don't like pills

You can crush them up and put them in your appey sauce 

One year from now everyone will be just as negative as me

33 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

But don't worry magically by the end of the year it will all be over

Christ, nobody said it was magic. It's simple f'ing math, but if you need me to spoon feed it to you, then I can...

Even with our current supply constraints and all the F-ups in the roll out so far, we're still currently administering about 1.7M doses per day. Everyone needs two doses to be vaccinated. We have a population of ~330M. So even at this current rate, ~50% of the population will be fully vaccinated by August. Assuming compliance is high, we'd get to ~75% by November. In reality, 1.7M per day is likely to shoot up to 2.5M or even 3M per day as the issues in distribution are ironed out and additional doses from other vaccine makers are added to the supply. So when we say everyone who wants one can get it by August, it's based on these sorts of projections. Current polls put vaccine compliance around 70% (up from about 50% from polls taken last summer.) Doesn't include young children yet, but there's a chance we'd start vaccinating the 5-12 group by then also. So yes, you get that percentage of the population vaccinated by then and the chances of sustained community spread will plummet (especially during the summer months). 

It's not magic, it's not some mystery, it's basic science and math.

31 minutes ago, Gannan said:

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:roll: 

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Christ, nobody said it was magic. It's simple f'ing math, but if you need me to spoon feed it to you, then I can...

Even with our current supply constraints and all the F-ups in the roll out so far, we're still currently administering about 1.7M doses per day. Everyone needs two doses to be vaccinated. We have a population of ~330M. So even at this current rate, ~50% of the population will be fully vaccinated by August. Assuming compliance is high, we'd get to ~75% by November. In reality, 1.7M per day is likely to shoot up to 2.5M or even 3M per day as the issues in distribution are ironed out and additional doses from other vaccine makers are added to the supply. So when we say everyone who wants one can get it by August, it's based on these sorts of projections. Current polls put vaccine compliance around 70% (up from about 50% from polls taken last summer.) Doesn't include young children yet, but there's a chance we'd start vaccinating the 5-12 group by then also. So yes, you get that percentage of the population vaccinated by then and the chances of sustained community spread will plummet (especially during the summer months). 

It's not magic, it's not some mystery, it's basic science and math.

Too many anti vaxxers, Only way is to force them to be vaccinated , not sure that would be legal

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/538198-over-30-percent-of-americans-say-they-wont-get-covid-19-vaccine-poll

31 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

One year from now everyone will be just as negative as me

I’m positive we won’t.

11 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Too many anti vaxxers, Only way is to force them to be vaccinated , not sure that would be legal

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/538198-over-30-percent-of-americans-say-they-wont-get-covid-19-vaccine-poll

Some of them will come around, but even at 70% compliance, we'll still have more than enough to significantly curb the spread. Besides, you forget that a large portion of those idiots will (or have already) subjected themselves to the virus and thus gained some form of natural immunity.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Some of them will come around, but even at 70% compliance, we'll still have more than enough to significantly curb the spread. Besides, you forget that a large portion of those idiots will (or have already) subjected themselves to the virus and thus gained some form of natural immunity.

Yeah but natural immunity does not last forever from what I read and those people that have gotten the virus can get the new variants , also many of these people have children they won't vaccinate so that number is more than 30% of the population that refuse the vaccine

21 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Yeah but natural immunity does not last forever from what I read

Natural immunity is estimated to be at least around 6 months or so.

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and those people that have gotten the virus can get the new variants ,

True that some variants (i.e. b1.351) can cause re-infection but that particular variant is still very rare here.

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also many of these people have children they won't vaccinate so that number is more than 30% of the population that refuse the vaccine

Oh I get it now, you're just bad at math. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Natural immunity is estimated to be around 6 months or so.

True that some variants (i.e. b1.351) can cause re-infection but that particular variant is still very rare here.

Oh I get it now, you're just bad at math. 

How so?

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