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WHO official describes where a bat coronavirus was able to mutate into a human one: wildlife farms in SW China.

China encouraged farming of exotic species, like civets and pangolins, etc... Where the virus could be transmitted and mutate, then the product was sent to market in Wuhan, spreading it. Once the virus was discovered, China shut down this activity.

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20 minutes ago, toolg said:

WHO official describes where a bat coronavirus was able to mutate into a human one: wildlife farms in SW China.

China encouraged farming of exotic species, like civets and pangolins, etc... Where the virus could be transmitted and mutate, then the product was sent to market in Wuhan, spreading it. Once the virus was discovered, China shut down this activity.

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It's called the OrientVirus brah

41 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

So surprising that a Republican doesn't know the difference bewen "flouting" and "flaunting":rolleyes:

farting?

45 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I spelled it wrong, apparently. The correct word is "flouting," meaning "to disregard," not "flaunting," meaning "to shown off/promote "

It's OK, we all realize you are much smarter than the stupid Republican who used the wrong word even though you made up a word to correct him.

:lol: 

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

It's OK, we all realize you are much smarter than the stupid Republican who used the wrong word even though you made up a word to correct him.

:lol: 

I didn't "make up a word." It's the same word phonetically, I just switched a letter. Also, I'm posting a football message board, not Tweeting for my job. Context matters.

21 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Just got an appointment for Monday. Moderna. 

That's selfish of you.

Aren't you low risk and in the best physical shape of your life?

You should save that dose for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

Getting mine Sunday and the wife Monday, Pfizer.

38 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

That's selfish of you.

Aren't you low risk and in the best physical shape of your life?

You should save that dose for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

There's more than enough for everyone, dumb ass.

7 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

So some states are starting to show an uptic during a period where only a small percentage of folks received their vaccination, restrictions are easing and the weather is still optimal for spreading the flu?

 

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6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

There's more than enough for everyone, dumb ass.

Not until May or June, per the President.

Also, appointments are booked up significantly in almost every state. So that dose should have gone to someone else, right? Not a guy with little risk?

Then again, you're right. If "little risk" was the deciding factor, we wouldn't even be inoculating people under 50. Hmm.

Guess we should start rectum checks at 20.

You first.

13 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Not until May or June, per the President. 

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12 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Not until May or June, per the President.

Also, appointments are booked up significantly in almost every state. So that dose should have gone to someone else, right? Not a guy with little risk?

Then again, you're right. If "little risk" was the deciding factor, we wouldn't even be inoculating people under 50. Hmm.

Guess we should start rectum checks at 20.

You first.

No, dumb ass. Appointments are not booked up "significantly" in every state. If I were eligible, I could get one tomorrow. It would mean driving an hour away to a different city, but I could sign up and schedule one that soon. There's also a clinic 30 min away taking same-day walk-ins. We're getting you the point where supply is begging to outstrip demand in some regions. 

In most states, front line and essential medical workers have been done for a while and 65 and over have been getting shots for nearly 2 months.  They are starting to shift to all adults now.  I have multiple relatives in their 40s who've already gotten their 2nd shot.

Trump's not in charge anymore.  Which means there are actual qualified experts getting this s*** done.

there's been ~116m vaccines administered in the US. 41m have been fully vaccinated, 75.5m or so have gotten at least one dose. 

that means about 12.5% of the population is fully vaccinated, and over 1/3 are at least partially vaccinated. a dd to that around 30m people who have had the virus. many of these probably also got vaccinated, but say conservatively 10m of that 30m who have some natural immunity are not vaccinated - we now are looking at over 125m people who have at least some if not strong immunity to COVID.

if viral load is a strong factor in how contagious someone is (and I would think that it is?), even if this portion of the population were exposed to the virus the vaccine will keep that viral load down. meaning even if they were to be able to pass on the virus if they were exposed, it would be at a reduced rate. (this is all speculative, but I think it's a reasonable hypothesis) assuming it's distributed relatively evenly among the population, that should cripple the ability of the virus to spread as rapidly. it's not herd immunity, but even partial immunity has a major impact - a virus with a reproduction number of say 1.5 is a lot better than 2.5. 

those of you who work in this space, is that reasonable? 

 

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7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

there's been ~116m vaccines administered in the US. 41m have been fully vaccinated, 75.5m or so have gotten at least one dose. 

that means about 12.5% of the population is fully vaccinated, and over 1/3 are at least partially vaccinated. a dd to that around 30m people who have had the virus. many of these probably also got vaccinated, but say conservatively 10m of that 30m who have some natural immunity are not vaccinated - we now are looking at over 125m people who have at least some if not strong immunity to COVID.

if viral load is a strong factor in how contagious someone is (and I would think that it is?), even if this portion of the population were exposed to the virus the vaccine will keep that viral load down. meaning even if they were to be able to pass on the virus if they were exposed, it would be at a reduced rate. (this is all speculative, but I think it's a reasonable hypothesis) assuming it's distributed relatively evenly among the population, that should cripple the ability of the virus to spread as rapidly. it's not herd immunity, but even partial immunity has a major impact - a virus with a reproduction number of say 1.5 is a lot better than 2.5. 

those of you who work in this space, is that reasonable? 

That is more than reasonable.

I've heard this kind of reasoning talked about multiple times on Biden's Covid panel they've been airing for a few weeks now.

38 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No, dumb ass. Appointments are not booked up "significantly" in every state. If I were eligible, I could get one tomorrow. It would mean driving an hour away to a different city, but I could sign up and schedule one that soon. There's also a clinic 30 min away taking same-day walk-ins. We're getting you the point where supply is begging to outstrip demand in some regions. 

Oh, got it.  How privileged of you. 

Just now, IFB DOG said:

Oh, got it.  How privileged of you. 

Because I can drive? Mmmkay

Been following the saga of 4 counties in SE PA vs the State.  First they (PA) won't admit there is an inequity in the way the figured out the distribution.  Local sites have run out of vaccines.  There's still a long line, best I can tell the county is still scheduling people that were registered before JAN 17th.  Now, the State is asking county to pick a mass vaccination site and PEMA will run it.  Counties are disappointed and wonder why they just won't distribute the vaccine directly to them for the sites that are already set up.  In the end, of course we will all get our vaccines, but the dysfunction going on is well, dumb.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suburban-counties-ready-to-amp-up-distribution-of-covid-19-vaccine-if-only-pa-could-supply-it/ar-BB1eHkWq?ocid=uxbndlbing

8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

Got it. So, per usual, you only care about issues that affect you.  And, yet, you think I'm the hypocrite?

6 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Been following the saga of 4 counties in SE PA vs the State.  First they (PA) won't admit there is an inequity in the way the figured out the distribution.  Local sites have run out of vaccines.  There's still a long line, best I can tell the county is still scheduling people that were registered before JAN 17th.  Now, the State is asking county to pick a mass vaccination site and PEMA will run it.  Counties are disappointed and wonder why they just won't distribute the vaccine directly to them for the sites that are already set up.  In the end, of course we will all get our vaccines, but the dysfunction going on is well, dumb.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suburban-counties-ready-to-amp-up-distribution-of-covid-19-vaccine-if-only-pa-could-supply-it/ar-BB1eHkWq?ocid=uxbndlbing

@we_gotta_believe sit down.

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