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The 2020 Corona Thread

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2 hours ago, Kz! said:

It's OK, we all realize you are much smarter than the stupid Republican who used the wrong word even though you made up a word to correct him.

:lol: 

I didn't "make up a word." It's the same word phonetically, I just switched a letter. Also, I'm posting a football message board, not Tweeting for my job. Context matters.

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21 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Just got an appointment for Monday. Moderna. 

That's selfish of you.

Aren't you low risk and in the best physical shape of your life?

You should save that dose for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

Getting mine Sunday and the wife Monday, Pfizer.

38 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

That's selfish of you.

Aren't you low risk and in the best physical shape of your life?

You should save that dose for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

There's more than enough for everyone, dumb ass.

7 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

So some states are starting to show an uptic during a period where only a small percentage of folks received their vaccination, restrictions are easing and the weather is still optimal for spreading the flu?

 

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6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

There's more than enough for everyone, dumb ass.

Not until May or June, per the President.

Also, appointments are booked up significantly in almost every state. So that dose should have gone to someone else, right? Not a guy with little risk?

Then again, you're right. If "little risk" was the deciding factor, we wouldn't even be inoculating people under 50. Hmm.

Guess we should start rectum checks at 20.

You first.

13 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Not until May or June, per the President. 

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12 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Not until May or June, per the President.

Also, appointments are booked up significantly in almost every state. So that dose should have gone to someone else, right? Not a guy with little risk?

Then again, you're right. If "little risk" was the deciding factor, we wouldn't even be inoculating people under 50. Hmm.

Guess we should start rectum checks at 20.

You first.

No, dumb ass. Appointments are not booked up "significantly" in every state. If I were eligible, I could get one tomorrow. It would mean driving an hour away to a different city, but I could sign up and schedule one that soon. There's also a clinic 30 min away taking same-day walk-ins. We're getting you the point where supply is begging to outstrip demand in some regions. 

In most states, front line and essential medical workers have been done for a while and 65 and over have been getting shots for nearly 2 months.  They are starting to shift to all adults now.  I have multiple relatives in their 40s who've already gotten their 2nd shot.

Trump's not in charge anymore.  Which means there are actual qualified experts getting this s*** done.

there's been ~116m vaccines administered in the US. 41m have been fully vaccinated, 75.5m or so have gotten at least one dose. 

that means about 12.5% of the population is fully vaccinated, and over 1/3 are at least partially vaccinated. a dd to that around 30m people who have had the virus. many of these probably also got vaccinated, but say conservatively 10m of that 30m who have some natural immunity are not vaccinated - we now are looking at over 125m people who have at least some if not strong immunity to COVID.

if viral load is a strong factor in how contagious someone is (and I would think that it is?), even if this portion of the population were exposed to the virus the vaccine will keep that viral load down. meaning even if they were to be able to pass on the virus if they were exposed, it would be at a reduced rate. (this is all speculative, but I think it's a reasonable hypothesis) assuming it's distributed relatively evenly among the population, that should cripple the ability of the virus to spread as rapidly. it's not herd immunity, but even partial immunity has a major impact - a virus with a reproduction number of say 1.5 is a lot better than 2.5. 

those of you who work in this space, is that reasonable? 

 

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7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

there's been ~116m vaccines administered in the US. 41m have been fully vaccinated, 75.5m or so have gotten at least one dose. 

that means about 12.5% of the population is fully vaccinated, and over 1/3 are at least partially vaccinated. a dd to that around 30m people who have had the virus. many of these probably also got vaccinated, but say conservatively 10m of that 30m who have some natural immunity are not vaccinated - we now are looking at over 125m people who have at least some if not strong immunity to COVID.

if viral load is a strong factor in how contagious someone is (and I would think that it is?), even if this portion of the population were exposed to the virus the vaccine will keep that viral load down. meaning even if they were to be able to pass on the virus if they were exposed, it would be at a reduced rate. (this is all speculative, but I think it's a reasonable hypothesis) assuming it's distributed relatively evenly among the population, that should cripple the ability of the virus to spread as rapidly. it's not herd immunity, but even partial immunity has a major impact - a virus with a reproduction number of say 1.5 is a lot better than 2.5. 

those of you who work in this space, is that reasonable? 

That is more than reasonable.

I've heard this kind of reasoning talked about multiple times on Biden's Covid panel they've been airing for a few weeks now.

38 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No, dumb ass. Appointments are not booked up "significantly" in every state. If I were eligible, I could get one tomorrow. It would mean driving an hour away to a different city, but I could sign up and schedule one that soon. There's also a clinic 30 min away taking same-day walk-ins. We're getting you the point where supply is begging to outstrip demand in some regions. 

Oh, got it.  How privileged of you. 

Just now, IFB DOG said:

Oh, got it.  How privileged of you. 

Because I can drive? Mmmkay

Been following the saga of 4 counties in SE PA vs the State.  First they (PA) won't admit there is an inequity in the way the figured out the distribution.  Local sites have run out of vaccines.  There's still a long line, best I can tell the county is still scheduling people that were registered before JAN 17th.  Now, the State is asking county to pick a mass vaccination site and PEMA will run it.  Counties are disappointed and wonder why they just won't distribute the vaccine directly to them for the sites that are already set up.  In the end, of course we will all get our vaccines, but the dysfunction going on is well, dumb.

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8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

Got it. So, per usual, you only care about issues that affect you.  And, yet, you think I'm the hypocrite?

6 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Been following the saga of 4 counties in SE PA vs the State.  First they (PA) won't admit there is an inequity in the way the figured out the distribution.  Local sites have run out of vaccines.  There's still a long line, best I can tell the county is still scheduling people that were registered before JAN 17th.  Now, the State is asking county to pick a mass vaccination site and PEMA will run it.  Counties are disappointed and wonder why they just won't distribute the vaccine directly to them for the sites that are already set up.  In the end, of course we will all get our vaccines, but the dysfunction going on is well, dumb.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suburban-counties-ready-to-amp-up-distribution-of-covid-19-vaccine-if-only-pa-could-supply-it/ar-BB1eHkWq?ocid=uxbndlbing

@we_gotta_believe sit down.

36 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

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The South loses in everything.

2 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Got it. So, per usual, you only care about issues that affect you.  And, yet, you think I'm the hypocrite?

@we_gotta_believe sit down.

No, I think you're dumb. Well at least until the vaccine changes my DNA, then all bets are off because I might be right there with you. 

2 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

That's selfish of you.

Aren't you low risk and in the best physical shape of your life?

You should save that dose for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spirit-airlines-kicks-four-year-old-boy-with-autism-off-flight-for-not-wearing-mask/

An Arkansas woman says Spirit Airlines kicked her son and husband off a flight Monday because the 4-year-old who's nonverbal with autism, wasn't wearing a mask.

Callie Kimball told CBS Little Rock affiliate KTVH-TV that Carter Kimball "had a medical note from his physician stating that he's exempt from wearing masks because whenever he wears a mask he holds his breath or he starts freaking out which causes harm to himself."

Callie said her family flew on Spirit to visit family in Las Vegas Friday without a problem. But Spirit wouldn't them stay on the return flight, which had a stopover in Dallas, even though her husband showed the plane's crew members the note

She says they've always flown with Spirit and never had any issues until now.

"He has a disability. It's protected under the American Disability Act and they go, 'No no no. Autism's not a disability. He has to wear a mask or he has to get off the plane.'"

carter-kimball-kicked-off-flite.jpg An upset Carter Kimball cries after being booted from a Spirit Airlines plane on March 15, 2021.CBS AFFILIATE KTVH-TV

"Kids on the (autism) spectrum, they're usually very obsessed with something," Callie explained. "He is obsessed with airplanes. So he was sitting in his seat, quietly and looking out the window, and this lady was like, 'Get off!'" 

Callie said American Airlines agreed to accommodate the family and accept Carter's note, but the family wants a refund for the tickets for the flight they weren't allowed to take.

"So we're out all of our flights, a thousand bucks and we have a son who's just so distraught now that he like threw all of his airplanes down."

Spirit told KTVH it issued a refund but the hang-up appeared to be the time it takes credit card issuers to credit the funds.

Spirit also said, "Our existing policy does not provide for medical exemptions, regardless of diagnosis. Our team members explained this to a family traveling today, but never questioned anyone's medical status in the process.

"Starting March 19, 2021, guests with a medical disability who are traveling on or after March 22, 2021 can apply for an exemption as provided for in the federal mandate requiring masks in airports and on planes."

A spokesman for the airline told CBS News the only exemption to its current mask policy, implemented in May, is children younger than 2 years old.

"We remind guests of our face covering policy throughout the booking process, in a pre-trip email sent prior to departure, and in a required acknowledgement that is part of the check-in procedure," the spokesman said.

Callie said she understands that COVID is real and people need to take precautions to protect everyone, but her son has a disability that limits him from mask use.

Teary-eyed, she said, "I've never in my life — being the parent of an autistic kid is really hard and I've never in my life experienced that kind of discrimination from someone."

 

Yeah, keep "saving lives", guys.  So they could fly there with the note, but not fly home???  

Bet you feel so self-righteous. 

Spirit airlines. 'Nuff said.

 

I would NEVER EVER give them a nickel of my money.

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