Just now, mikemack8 said:

C'mon, it's totally the CDC Director's job to come on camera and tell us her personal feelings  

She really is quite terrible. I get that they want to avoid one last spike, but it's just ridiculous. They should be putting out better guidelines on a phased return to normalcy. Trying to keep this up after people are vaccinated will just spark a massive backlash against all precautions. 

Get the vaccine and then go back to your life. Crying on camera like a drama queen...you lose all credibility. 

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

She really is quite terrible. I get that they want to avoid one last spike, but it's just ridiculous. They should be putting out better guidelines on a phased return to normalcy. Trying to keep this up after people are vaccinated will just spark a massive backlash against all precautions. 

Get the vaccine and then go back to your life. Crying on camera like a drama queen...you lose all credibility. 

This is the new normal, enjoy

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Get the vaccine and then go back to your life. Crying on camera like a drama queen...you lose all credibility.

 

It's definitely not the image you want coming from the head of the agency that is supposed to be projecting calm and confidence in the midst of a crisis.

The feelings certainly aren't misplaced, however. We're headed into another holiday weekend and we're already surging. Thanks, maskless morons!

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's definitely not the image you want coming from the head of the agency that is supposed to be projecting calm and confidence in the midst of a crisis.

The feelings certainly aren't misplaced, however. We're headed into another holiday weekend and we're already surging. Thanks, maskless morons!

No evidence they are to blame

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

No evidence they are to blame

How exactly do you think this virus spreads, Joe?

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's definitely not the image you want coming from the head of the agency that is supposed to be projecting calm and confidence in the midst of a crisis.

The feelings certainly aren't misplaced, however. We're headed into another holiday weekend and we're already surging. Thanks, maskless morons!

This weekend, I was in a middle of nowhere gas station in rural Georgia and two guys were having a very passionate, maskless conversation about Hollywood liberals.   The problem with masks is that when you wear them it's hard to hear your friend complain about how liberals are ruining this country.

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

No evidence they are to blame

Look, doom-and-gloom is one thing. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts. The facts are masks are highly effective, and a significant number of people are ignoring the need to wear them. I can tolerate your shade, but I will not tolerate your lies.

4 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

This is the new normal, enjoy

STFU troll. No one is engaging your sad, tired shtick.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Look, doom-and-gloom is one thing. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts. The facts are masks are highly effective and that a significant number of people are ignoring the need to wear them. I can tolerate your shade, but I will not tolerate your lies.

Then why are numbers down in Texas

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

STFU troll. No one is engaging your sad, tired shtick.

, except you ? got it

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Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines found highly effective in CDC study

NEW YORK -- The U.S government's first look at the real-world use of COVID-19 vaccines found their effectiveness was nearly as robust as it was in controlled studies.

The two vaccines available since December - Pfizer and Moderna - were 90% effective after two doses, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Monday. In testing, the vaccines were about 95% effective in preventing COVID-19.

"This is very reassuring news," said the CDC's Mark Thompson, the study's lead author. "We have a vaccine that's working very well."

The study is the government's first assessment of how the shots have been working beyond the drugmakers' initial experiments. Results can sometimes change when vaccines are used in larger, more diverse populations outside studies.

With nearly 4,000 participants from six states, the study focused on health care workers, first responders and other front-line workers who had first priority for the shots. They were given nasal swab test kits to use every week to check for signs of infection.

"The evidence base for (currently available) COVID-19 vaccines is already strong, and continues to mount ever higher with studies like this one," said David Holtgrave, dean of the University at Albany's School of Public Health, in an email.

The study included roughly 2,500 volunteers who got two vaccine doses, about 500 who got one dose and about 1,000 who did not get vaccinated.

The researchers counted 205 infections, with 161 of them in the unvaccinated group. Of the remaining 44, the CDC said 33 of them were in people apparently infected with two weeks of their last shot, the point at which they are considered fully vaccinated.

No one died, and only two were hospitalized. Thompson did not say whether the people hospitalized were vaccinated or not.

"These findings should offer hope to the millions of Americans receiving COVID-19 vaccines each day and to those who will have the opportunity to roll up their sleeves and get vaccinated in the weeks ahead," CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, in a statement. "The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.

Different researchers have tried to look at how the vaccines have performed including work done in Israel and the United Kingdom, and a U.S. study of Mayo Clinic patients.

Unlike the Mayo study, which focused on hospitalization and death, the CDC study looked for any infection - including infections that never resulted in symptoms, or were identified before people started feeling sick.

About two-thirds of the participants who were vaccinated got Pfizer shots, one-third got Moderna and five got the newest shot from Johnson & Johnson. The study was done in Miami; Duluth, Minnesota; Portland, Oregon; Temple, Texas; Salt Lake City; and Phoenix and other areas in Arizona. .

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2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

How exactly do you think this virus spreads, Joe?

It is spreading with or without masks, it is just a fact that the states with toughest mask laws are not doing better than other states

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Terrific, too bad there are too many who will refuse it

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

It is spreading with or without masks, it is just a fact that the states with toughest mask laws are not doing better than other states

That's demonstrably false. We've already been over this. I'd take the time to explain in detail, but vikas is right. Not worth engaging trolls. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

That's demonstrably false. We've already been over this. I'd take the time to explain in detail, but vikas is right. Not worth engaging trolls. 

Seriously guys, just ignore his desperate cries for attention and he will take his whining back to the Phillies thread. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

That's demonstrably false. We've already been over this. I'd take the time to explain in detail, but vikas is right. Not worth engaging trolls. 

So anybody that does not fall in line with your so called facts is a troll? ok great

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Then why are numbers down in Texas

 

I don't know, but I do know that it doesn't negate the ample scientific proof (aside from basic fu***ing common sense) that masks work. That sounds like a question for a qualified professional to carefully answer after an exhaustive review of data and related studies, not some dude with apparently nothing better to do than play a lame character on a football message board.

https://www.fox6now.com/news/texas-covid-numbers-decrease-17-days-after-mask-other-restrictions-lifted

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

I don't know, but I do know that it doesn't negate the ample scientific proof (aside from basic fu***ing common sense) that masks work. That sounds like a question for a qualified professional to carefully answer after an exhaustive review of data and related studies, not some dude with apparently nothing better to do than play a lame character on a football message board.

Yeah, but do we really know that a covering over your mouth helps stop the spread of a virus?

Also, do we really know whether or not deoderant keeps you from smelling bad?  Or showering cleans your skin?  I'm gonna need to see a study or two on those before I buy in.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

I don't know, but I do know that it doesn't negate the ample scientific proof (aside from basic fu***ing common sense) that masks work. That sounds like a question for a qualified professional to carefully answer after an exhaustive review of data and related studies, not some dude with apparently nothing better to do than play a lame character on a football message board.

That's hilarious since I am here less  than most, if i have nothing better to do what about the rest of you, you guys come off as bad as the right wing loons that think Trump is god

11 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Look, doom-and-gloom is one thing. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts. The facts are masks are highly effective, and a significant number of people are ignoring the need to wear them. I can tolerate your shade, but I will not tolerate your lies.

You gonna beat him up, brah?  

Just now, mikemack8 said:

You gonna beat him up, brah?  

6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

That's hilarious since I am here less  than most, if i have nothing better to do what about the rest of you, you guys come off as bad as the right wing loons that think Trump is god

The prepositional phrase is crucial here.
 

 

10 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

nothing better to do than play a lame character on a football message board.

 

Don't twist my words. We're all a bunch of losers on a message board, but only a select few morons are actively spreading misinformation. It seems we're at crossroads where you need to decide whether your misery at the very least stays tethered to reality or if you want to go full Kz and dive down the delusional rabbit hole of "alternative facts." 

Time's yours  *clears throat*

9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

The prepositional phrase is crucial here.
 

 

 

Don't twist my words. We're all a bunch of losers on a message board, but only a select few morons are actively spreading misinformation. It seems we're at crossroads where you need to decide whether your misery at the very least stays tethered to reality or if you want to go full Kz and dive down the delusional rabbit hole of "alternative facts." 

Time's yours  *clear's throat*

Where Am I not being realistic? Cases in many states are increasing...fact, cases In Texas are down.....fact, variants are a huge problem....fact.....Too many people that refuse the vaccine...fact

 

Ok sorry Supreme court did not over turn election, go that one wrong, oops but he is coming back in august

 

It is kind of funny that a thread full of libs who have pretty much worshipped Fauci and the CDC don't have any reaction to the director of the CDC basically saying exactly what Joe Shades has been saying all along. Their reaction is to just ignore it and yell at Shades even more.  

5 minutes ago, Kz! said:

It is kind of funny that a thread full of libs who have pretty much worshipped Fauci and the CDC don't have any reaction to the director of the CDC basically saying exactly what Joe Shades has been saying all along. Their reaction is to just ignore it and yell at Shades even more.  

Fauci changes his opinion quicker than the wind changing direction but that is because circumstances change they say, yet people like We__gotta can guarantee the end of the pandemic by the end of the year