March 29, 20215 yr Just now, Joe Shades 73 said: So you disagree with the CDC? No, you are the one doing that.
March 29, 20215 yr Just now, Gannan said: In that insane scenario you keep throwing out there, we will all be dead and it won't be a problem. Of course I was not being totally serious but it is worse than you think
March 29, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: No, you are the one doing that. Ok so you disagree? https://www.cnet.com/news/cdc-director-fears-potential-impending-doom-as-covid-19-cases-rise-again/?ServiceType=twitter&ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&UniqueID=F55225CE-90AF-11EB-8AC7-C5C94744363C&PostType=link&TheTime=2021-03-29T16%3A58%3A17
March 29, 20215 yr If anyone cares to read about mRNA and the woman that spent her life working on it on mRNA. GIVE HER THE DAMN NOBEL PRIZE. Prof Karikó first began work on mRNA at a lab in Hungary in 1978, before moving to the US after her position at the Biological Research Centre in Szeged was terminated in 1985. A decade later, when at the University of Pennsylvania, Prof Karikó was again demoted when her focus on mRNA failed to attract financial backing The current #mRNA vaccine could be "the safest” available. It is "cleaner” than conventional vaccine technologies as mRNA code quickly degrades, leaving nothing behind. Everything disappears, the viral protein disappears, leaving only the antibody.
March 29, 20215 yr Opinion piece. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pa-s-best-shot-is-at-beating-covid-is-local-not-regional/ar-BB1f3aGJ?ocid=msedgntp
March 29, 20215 yr 15 minutes ago, Gannan said: In that insane scenario you keep throwing out there, we will all be dead and it won't be a problem. Hell will be hearing @Joe Shades 73 say "I told you so" for eternity
March 29, 20215 yr 33 minutes ago, Gannan said: You'd need a warm weather state with stricter mask mandates to make a fair comparison. Let's take California. California has 10 million more people and is reporting less cases. So once again, I'm right and you're wrong, and it's abundantly clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. Yep and you'd need to normalize as much as you could for a slew of key factors. I think it is beyond a doubt that masks help stop the spread of the virus. The question is how much and in what circumstances, etc.
March 29, 20215 yr 15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Ok so you disagree? https://www.cnet.com/news/cdc-director-fears-potential-impending-doom-as-covid-19-cases-rise-again/?ServiceType=twitter&ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&UniqueID=F55225CE-90AF-11EB-8AC7-C5C94744363C&PostType=link&TheTime=2021-03-29T16%3A58%3A17 Did you pull a zuker and not read your own article or do you just not understand it?
March 29, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hell will be hearing @Joe Shades 73 say "I told you so" for eternity His track record on predicting things isn't so good.
March 29, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, Gannan said: Did you pull a zuker and not read your own article or do you just not understand it? Do you disagree with the article?
March 29, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Six new positive cases in my building. We're going virtual tomorrow. Eight new positive cases in my building... we're also going virtual tomorrow (and Wednesday)
March 29, 20215 yr This thread is getting some action today. Don't have time to quote everything but I'll say that the variants are indeed causing issues in states where they've gained a foothold, and where most of the population lacks immunity. Unfortunately, while we have a rough idea of population immunity, we don't have a rough idea of which states the variants are gaining traction in the quickest. Sequencing is still sorely lacking right now. But while things might be trending in the wrong direction for some states in the northeast, help is on the way. You could even call it the Calvary! As for Redfield's comments, I don't think he was basing it on any new evidence, but I might've missed something. Fwiw, he's at least a trained virologist, so his opinion carries more weight than the biologists podcasters Maher had on. But I still don't see anything beyond circumstantial evidence that this was manmade. The prevailing scientific consensus among virologists is still firmly in the zoonotic origin camp This virus having a zoonotic origin and a massive cover-up from China are not mutually exclusive scenarios. They could just as easily be trying to cover up from initial efforts to obscure the situation for much of the same reasons nationalistic leaders don't want their regime to look bad on a global stage. Not unlike what Trump was trying to do domestically. The Woodward tapes confirmed this to a degree. The way scientific innovation has advanced in the last century or so, a single person is seldom the direct cause for such life-saving innovations like they were in the past. Gone are the days of Pasteur, Lister, Jenner, etc. But if we had to pick one as a modern day equivalent, it might be the aforementioned Katalin Kariko. For geopolitical historical significance, she was a cold-was refugee.
March 29, 20215 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: This thread is getting some action today. Don't have time to quote everything but I'll say that the variants are indeed causing issues in states where they've gained a foothold, and where most of the population lacks immunity. Unfortunately, while we have a rough idea of population immunity, we don't have a rough idea of which states the variants are gaining traction in the quickest. Sequencing is sorely lacking right now. Things might be trending in the wrong direction for some states in the northeast, but help is on the way. You could even call it the Calvary! As for Redfield's comments, I don't think he was basing it on any new evidence, but I might've missed something. Fwiw, he's at least a trained virologist, so his opinion carries more weight than the biologists podcasters Maher had on. But I still don't see anything beyond circumstantial evidence that this was manmade. This virus having a zoonotic origin and a massive cover-up from China are not mutually exclusive scenarios. They could just as easily be trying to cover up from initial efforts to obscure the situation for much of the same reasons nationalistic leaders don't want their regime to look bad on a global stage. Not unlike what Trump was trying to do domestically. The Woodward tapes confirmed this to a degree. The way scientific innovation has advanced in the last century years or so, a single person is seldom the direct cause for such life-saving innovations like they were in the past. Gone are the days of Pasteur, Lister, Jenner, etc. But if we had to pick one as a modern day equivalent, it might be the aforementioned Katalin Kariko. For geopolitical historical significance, was a cold-was refugee. Not trolling serious question. Do you still believe we will be out of this by end of year? And if so you are assuming the anti vaxxers will change their minds?
March 29, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Not trolling serious question. Do you still believe we will be out of this by end of year? And if so you are assuming the anti vaxxers will change their minds? I have no choice but to assume you're always trolling now.
March 29, 20215 yr If the Amish and Mennonites can do it, we should be able to do it with vaccines too. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/amish-mennonite-communities-pennsylvania-reached-herd-immunity-health-official
March 29, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, Gannan said: Which part? The impending doom? Because states are relaxing restrictions and many people will not get the vaccine
March 29, 20215 yr 9 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: The impending doom? Because states are relaxing restrictions and many people will not get the vaccine The part where she started with "I have a feeling”? Yes I agree that she’s talking about her feelings, and I agree that she feels feelings.
March 29, 20215 yr I guess I am the only one thet sees no end in sight, not sure how the anti vaxxers will be convinced but it is pointless to argue anymore, plus your daddy gets mad when everyone replies, sorry
March 29, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said: I guess I am the only one thet sees no end in sight, not sure how the anti vaxxers will be convinced but it is pointless to argue anymore, plus your daddy gets mad when everyone replies, sorry I think you are not understanding that the end-game can take different forms. Even if COVID hangs around for years in the form of an endemic disease, it will at least be manageable to the point where we don't have to live with the virus as an omnipotent, ever-present threat running roughshod over our healthcare system. Elimination may not yet be in sight, but true mitigation and control has not yet escaped our grasp. We need to keep vaccinating and masking, and we may yet still get this thing under control. With this in mind, your doomsday approach brings nothing to the table except potentially encouraging the ne'er-do-wells to keep doing nothing, and worse, encouraging those hanging on by a thread to give up entirely. The point is, you are not helping.
March 29, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Talkingbirds said: If the Amish and Mennonites can do it, we should be able to do it with vaccines too. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/amish-mennonite-communities-pennsylvania-reached-herd-immunity-health-official Agreed. The Amish are pretty much in their own bubble. Other than going out among the English working everyday. Some of them anyway. Everyone wants everything yesterday and some camnot accept it. Still some unknowns but get vaccinated if you can. It is surprising to me the age group of new cases are young.
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