Stay on topic, If you took the vaccine but it didn't work and now you will die from covid, what would your final meal be?

2 minutes ago, paco said:

I'm wealthy enough to be able to go to Red Lobster whenever I want and not worry about what we are ordering.  Like, not every day, but 2 maybe 3 times a week.

haven't been to red lobstah since they took cajun shrimp pasta off their menu 👎  damn...that sheet was good. 

plus the wife is allergic to all shellfish so it's @probably not the best restaurant for us. 

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Stay on topic, If you took the vaccine but it didn't work and now you will die from covid, what would your final meal be?

Surf and turf.  And by surf and turf I mean salisbury steak and fish sticks.  Us poors can't afford much else.

I've been cutting down on red meat, so I've been almost exclusively eating McDonalds chicken nuggets.

 

Fun Fact: Did you all know they come in 4 different shapes?

People in the medical filed seem to be coming around to the idea that COVID-19 is an endemic. 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

People in the medical filed seem to be coming around to the idea that COVID-19 is an endemic. 

Will still be killing people forever

21 minutes ago, paco said:

I'm wealthy enough to be able to go to Red Lobster whenever I want and not worry about what we are ordering.  Like, not every day, but 2 maybe 3 times a week.

I honestly didn't think people actually ate there, or at Applebee's. Never been to either. Seem awful.

Now Chili's on the other hand...legit when craving crap food. Cheesecake Factory too. 

EDIT: In high school, we used to go to Chili's and order the bottomless chips and a drink with free refills. They'd usually toss us out after like an hour. 

7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Will still be killing people forever

Yes, in the same way that the flu does. I've pretty much accepted that I will get a flu shot and a covid shot every fall. 

Messaging getting better. Just keep the CDC chick off TV.

 

13 minutes ago, Gannan said:

People in the medical filed seem to be coming around to the idea that COVID-19 is an endemic. 

 

It's not yet, but it most likely will be. That's what I've been saying in this thread since like late last year.

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I honestly didn't think people actually ate there, or at Applebee's. Never been to either. Seem awful.

Now Chili's on the other hand...legit when craving crap food. Cheesecake Factory too. 

EDIT: In high school, we used to go to Chili's and order the bottomless chips and a drink with free refills. They'd usually toss us out after like an hour. 

I remember Cheddar Bay biscuits from Red Lobster being so good. Granted I was in highschool last time I had them so who knows. 

The rest of it...yeah pretty much. 

13 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Will still be killing people forever

All the right people once we're vaccinated, though 😃

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

All the right people once we're vaccinated, though 😃

Especially fat and poor people

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

I remember Cheddar Bay biscuits from Red Lobster being so good. Granted I was in highschool last time I had them so who knows. 

The rest of it...yeah pretty much. 

You can just buy them in supermarkets

19 minutes ago, Gannan said:

People in the medical filed seem to be coming around to the idea that COVID-19 is an endemic. 

Hard to say right now with the variants throwing a wrench into things, but I wouldn't be shocked to see covid end up being roughly as prevalent as tuberculosis in a few years, where it becomes endemic in the third world, but an afterthought in the first world. You'll have pockets of outbreaks in some states in the next few years, but at some point, I think community spread just becomes unsustainable.

Immunity durability is a factor too, but I have few doubts vaccines will only improve from here and they're already really damn good, so I'm not as worried about that. Even so, if durability is less than 2 years, then maybe this whole episode boosts annual flu shot compliance to the 60-70% range, and then it's maybe as simple as going to a combined flu shot / covid booster annually if needed. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Hard to say right now with the variants throwing a wrench into things, but I wouldn't be shocked to see covid end up being roughly as prevalent as tuberculosis in a few years, where it becomes endemic in the third world, but an afterthought in the first world. You'll have pockets of outbreaks in some states in the next few years, but at some point, I think community spread just becomes unsustainable.

Immunity durability is a factor too, but I have few doubts vaccines will only improve from here and they're already really damn good, so I'm not as worried about that. Even so, if durability is less than 2 years, then maybe this whole episode boosts annual flu shot compliance to the 60-70% range, and then it's maybe as simple as going to a combined flu shot / covid booster annually if needed. 

With all this sunshine from you I need to get checked for skin cancer after all your posts

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

With all this sunshine from you I need to get checked for skin cancer after all your posts

If you're going to seek medical help, maybe start with a clinical psychologist. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

If you're going to seek medical help, maybe start with a clinical psychologist. 

Do they do zoom calls?

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Do they do zoom calls?

Yes, but given your posts, I'm thinking you might want to go ahead and check in for a multi-week stint.

 

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Hard to say right now with the variants throwing a wrench into things, but I wouldn't be shocked to see covid end up being roughly as prevalent as tuberculosis in a few years, where it becomes endemic in the third world, but an afterthought in the first world. You'll have pockets of outbreaks in some states in the next few years, but at some point, I think community spread just becomes unsustainable.

Immunity durability is a factor too, but I have few doubts vaccines will only improve from here and they're already really damn good, so I'm not as worried about that. Even so, if durability is less than 2 years, then maybe this whole episode boosts annual flu shot compliance to the 60-70% range, and then it's maybe as simple as going to a combined flu shot / covid booster annually if needed. 

The flu still averages, what, like 50K per year? Wouldn't coronavirus be more comparable to that than something like tuberculosis?

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

The flu still averages, what, like 50K per year? Wouldn't coronavirus be more comparable to that than something like tuberculosis?

yes

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

The flu still averages, what, like 50K per year? Wouldn't coronavirus be more comparable to that than something like tuberculosis?

My guess is we'll get to a point in the next 5 years or so where flu will cause more deaths annually than covid. The main reason being vaccine efficacy and the variable nature of influenza surface protein recombination being a tougher target to hit.

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The flu still averages, what, like 50K per year? Wouldn't coronavirus be more comparable to that than something like tuberculosis?

We've never had a flu vaccine as effective as the current covid vaccines. Now we don't know how long  that immunity lasts and we'll have to see if the variants are able to outpace the vaccine one year to the next.  But that's a big factor in its favor. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

My guess is we'll get to a point in the next 5 years or so where flu will cause more deaths annually than covid. The main reason being vaccine efficacy and the variable nature of influenza surface protein recombination being a tougher target to hit.

The unknown seems to be how much will COVID change/mutate from season to season. If it continues to evolve then I could see it being more like the flu. If the vaccines continue to work against any variants, then...viola. 

The truth will likely be somewhere in the middle.

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The unknown seems to be how much will COVID change/mutate from season to season. If it continues to evolve then I could see it being more like the flu. If the vaccines continue to work against any variants, then...viola. 

The truth will likely be somewhere in the middle.

Variants should be largely held in check by vaccines though. Relative to influenza strains, covid mutates at a much slower rate, and the coronavirus surface protein commonality makes for an easier cat and mouse game. 

14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

We've never had a flu vaccine as effective as the current covid vaccines. Now we don't know how long  that immunity lasts and we'll have to see if the variants are able to outpace the vaccine one year to the next.  But that's a big factor in its favor. 

Yup. And mrna platform development is a game changer. Not only was efficacy super high, but we can now crank out tweaked versions in a matter of months using the same proven delivery mechanism.