July 8, 20215 yr https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/health/undervaccinated-clusters-covid-risk/index.html Five undervaccinated clusters put the entire United States at risk There's a case to be made that these unvaccinated people are so aggressively stupid that a judge should put them under the care of Britney Spear's father. At the very least, let's hope Biden expands his "door to door" comment to include forcibly vaccinating these idiots.
July 8, 20215 yr these numbers are preliminary and at odds with all other data reported so far around Delta. here's more than a picture of an unspecified newspaper on some loser's twitter feed: https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-less-effective-against-delta-variant-israeli-data-show-11625572796
July 8, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: these numbers are preliminary and at odds with all other data reported so far around Delta. here's more than a picture of an unspecified newspaper on some loser's twitter feed: https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-less-effective-against-delta-variant-israeli-data-show-11625572796 He didn't read what he posted anyway.
July 8, 20215 yr So in Missouri, a Red State, 99.5% of all recent Covid Deaths are unvaccinated people. Same for other Red States like Arkansas, Mississippi, Florida and Texas. Trumplicans are going to pay for the anti vaccine, covid hoax beliefs.
July 8, 20215 yr GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert calls Biden's door-to-door vaccinators 'needle Notzees' I hope she gets Covid.
July 8, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: So in Missouri, a Red State, 99.5% of all recent Covid Deaths are unvaccinated people. Same for other Red States like Arkansas, Mississippi, Florida and Texas. Trumplicans are going to pay for the anti vaccine, covid hoax beliefs. Do you have the stats for all of the states? I’m curious because the vaccine should greatly reduce the risk of having a severe reaction to the virus. Based on that, most of the people dying from Covid should be unvaccinated.
July 8, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Moron is cheering for the virus. Oh stop, no one is rooting for the virus.
July 8, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: Oh stop, no one is rooting for the virus. It certainly did seem like you were cheering for the virus though.
July 8, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, RPeeteRules said: It certainly did seem like you were cheering for the virus though. Just the delta variant. All the other variants are lame by comparison.
July 8, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: Do you have the stats for all of the states? I’m curious because the vaccine should greatly reduce the risk of having a severe reaction to the virus. Based on that, most of the people dying from Covid should be unvaccinated. https://news.yahoo.com/fears-us-covid-surge-delta-100005258.html 99.2% of US Covid deaths in June were unvaccinated, says Fauci More than nine out of 10 Americans who died from Covid-19 in the US in June were unvaccinated, according to Dr Anthony Fauci – a statistic that health officials say is especially concerning given the prevalence of vaccine hesitancy in some regions and the rise of the Delta variant. Maryland reported this week that 100% of those who died from coronavirus there in June had not been vaccinated, while more than 93% of those with new cases or who were hospitalized were similarly unprotected. Cases are rising in nearly half the states as low vaccination rates are being met with the more transmissible and severe Delta or B.1.617.2, variant, identified in India in December 2020. https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=missouri+covid+deaths+unvaccinated&fr=yfp-t-m&ei=UTF-8&fp=1 Anna Spoerre Thu, July 8, 2021, 3:17 PM·2 min read Missouri currently ranks the worst state in the country for the highest rates of hospitalizations and deaths in the past seven days, according to The New York Times. Missouri also sits at second-worst behind Arkansas for states with the most cases per capita in the past seven days, with 17 cases per 100,000 residents, according to The New York Times coronavirus tracker. In the past week, Missouri averaged about 1,047 new cases per day. The state is seeing the most hospitalizations per capita in the country, averaging 1,002 hospitalizations a day over the past week. State of the virus Update for July 7 About 250 deaths are being reported each day, the fewest since March 2020. Case numbers remain near their lowest levels since testing became widely available, but they have started to trend slowly upward. The uptick in cases is primarily due to localized outbreaks in places with low vaccination rates. Parts of Arkansas, Missouri, Texas and Nevada are struggling as the Delta variant spreads. Most of the country continues to see very low case rates. The outlook is especially positive east of the Mississippi River and on the West Coast.
July 8, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: It certainly did seem like you were cheering for the virus though. 600,000 people died from Covid and KZ the Radical right extremist, just called Covid lame.
July 8, 20215 yr https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/unvaccinated-missourians-fuel-covid/ KANSAS CITY, Mo. — As the US emerges from the COVID-19 crisis, Missouri is becoming a cautionary tale for the rest of the country: It is seeing an alarming rise in cases because of a combination of the fast-spreading delta variant and stubborn resistance among many people to getting vaccinated. Intensive care beds are filling up with surprisingly young, unvaccinated patients and staff members are getting burned out fighting a battle that was supposed to be in its final throes. The hope among some health leaders is that the rest of the US might at least learn something from Missouri’s plight. "If people elsewhere in the country are looking to us and saying, ‘No thanks’ and they are getting vaccinated, that is good,” said Erik Frederick, chief administrative officer at Mercy Hospital Springfield, which has been inundated with COVID-19 patients as the variant first identified in India rips through the largely non-immunized community. "We will be the canary.” The state now leads the nation with the highest rate of new COVID-19 infections and the surge is happening largely in a politically conservative farming region in the northern part of the state and in the southwestern corner, which includes Springfield and Branson, the country music mecca in the Ozark Mountains where big crowds are gathering again at the city’s theaters and other attractions. While over 53 percent of all Americans have received at least one shot, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, most southern and northern Missouri counties are well short of 40 percent. One county is at just 13 percent.
July 8, 20215 yr Quote 99.2% of US Covid deaths in June were unvaccinated, says Fauci More than nine out of 10 Americans who died from Covid-19 in the US in June were unvaccinated I mean, that's technically true that "more than nine out of ten" were unvaccinated. But why not say 99 out of 100?
July 8, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: https://news.yahoo.com/fears-us-covid-surge-delta-100005258.html 99.2% of US Covid deaths in June were unvaccinated, says Fauci More than nine out of 10 Americans who died from Covid-19 in the US in June were unvaccinated, according to Dr Anthony Fauci – a statistic that health officials say is especially concerning given the prevalence of vaccine hesitancy in some regions and the rise of the Delta variant. Maryland reported this week that 100% of those who died from coronavirus there in June had not been vaccinated, while more than 93% of those with new cases or who were hospitalized were similarly unprotected. Cases are rising in nearly half the states as low vaccination rates are being met with the more transmissible and severe Delta or B.1.617.2, variant, identified in India in December 2020. https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=missouri+covid+deaths+unvaccinated&fr=yfp-t-m&ei=UTF-8&fp=1 Anna Spoerre Thu, July 8, 2021, 3:17 PM·2 min read Missouri currently ranks the worst state in the country for the highest rates of hospitalizations and deaths in the past seven days, according to The New York Times. Missouri also sits at second-worst behind Arkansas for states with the most cases per capita in the past seven days, with 17 cases per 100,000 residents, according to The New York Times coronavirus tracker. In the past week, Missouri averaged about 1,047 new cases per day. The state is seeing the most hospitalizations per capita in the country, averaging 1,002 hospitalizations a day over the past week. The average is 99.2% unvaccinated, but Missouri is above that. I’d think being above the average would be better. Maryland had 100% of those who died of Covid were unvaccinated.
July 8, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: The average is 99.2% unvaccinated, but Missouri is above that. I’d think being above the average would be better. Maryland had 100% of those who died of Covid were unvaccinated. Yep. And in Red counties where they are under 40% vaccinated. While over 53 percent of all Americans have received at least one shot, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, most southern and northern Missouri counties are well short of 40 percent. One county is at just 13 percent.
July 8, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I mean, that's technically true that "more than nine out of ten" were unvaccinated. But why not say 99 out of 100? Yep. and Red States in red counties where the vaccinated are under 40% are leading the way with the new variant.
July 8, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: The average is 99.2% unvaccinated, but Missouri is above that. I’d think being above the average would be better. Maryland had 100% of those who died of Covid were unvaccinated. there's an alphabet soup of stats there. "among unvaccinated" Missouri might be doing better than the average (99.2%), but at that number it's certainly within the statistical variance (given that only 0.8% remain). but looking at the number of vaccinated among the whole of Missouri's population, it's well behind the national average. only 39% are fully vaccinated, making it right around the 25 percentile or so. and my guess is that in/around St Louis vaccination compliance is closer to the national average, meaning in rural "Missoura" there's a lot of opportunity for a faster-traveling Delta variant to spread through the population. just speculation of course, but I think reasonable.
July 8, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Yeah, I can't possibly understand why a bunch of conspiracy oriented Trumplicans might have gotten it in their heads that Covid is a hoax and vaccines are a form of mind control.
July 8, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah, I can't possibly understand why a bunch of conspiracy oriented Trumplicans might have gotten it in their heads that Covid is a hoax and vaccines are a form of mind control. That is so ridiculous. Vaccines are not mind control. They are simply the method of choice to get the microchip in us.
July 8, 20215 yr 14 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Oh yeah, Mitch? Really perplexed, huh? He must use different news sources than Kz
July 8, 20215 yr The percentage of unvaccinated people among recent covid deaths should be relatively consistent across all states assuming they all have similar distribution of vaccine types. The number of covid deaths, or deaths per capita, would be higher in states with lagging vaccination rates though you'd have to account for the predominance of variants. A state like Missouri is especially vulnerable both due to the lagging vaccination rates, and also due to the predominance of delta. Meanwhile a state like Massachusetts should fare much better due to higher vaccination rates and lesser prevalence of delta. As for the headlines stating how effective or ineffective the vaccines are against delta, caution must be used to understand exactly what's being conveyed. When it comes to metrics in this context, there are three primary categories... Prevention of asymptomatic disease (e.g. You're infected and potentially unknowingly spreading it to others.) Prevention of symptomatic disease (e.g. You have symptoms of an infection, but not severe enough that you'd go to a hospital or require medical intervention.) Prevention of severe disease (e.g. You're sick as F and need to get your ass to urgent care or the hospital.) Most of the commonly cited metrics of efficacy were in reference to that second category, such as when Pfizer stated their mRNA candidate we 94% effective of the original strain (pre-UK / alpha variant.) We knew that prevention of severe disease was likewise 99+%. And while determining efficacy against symptomatic disease was most difficult, we came out to somewhere in the 91% range. It was at this point that the CDC infamously revised their guidelines for all vaccinated people. Delta seems to tilted things a bit though. So while mRNA vaccines are still overall extremely effective, we are seeing some signs that delta is a bit better than alpha and classic at breaking through. Coming up with revised percentages are very difficult because of all the variables that need to be controlled for now but we do know from a study in Singapore than vaccinated people can be infected with delta and spread it to other vaccinated people. So while some revised efficacy estimates are suspiciously low (like from Israel) most fall into the 70-80% range for asymptomatic prevention, about 85-90% for symptomatic prevention, and about 97-99% for severe prevention. All in all, regional levels of community spread will continue to be the biggest factor of dictating personal risk, but this does mean most states will see an uptick come fall/winter and possibly even result in a return of indoor mask mandates in some cases. TL/DR: get the F'ing shot for you and anyone else you care about. This is a no-brainer just as it always has been.
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