14 hours ago, Eaglesfandan said:

The minute health care companies say, "Fine if you don't want the vaccine then you are not covered as of January 1, 2022 for covid related expenses so do so at your own risk," we will see the same thing.

aaaaaaaaand my stupid anti vax sister said this is the same thing as communism.  🤣

 

Let’s see what we can find with UK numbers. The ones I saw today showed high case rates but super low hospital and death numbers which would be consistent with a Delta wave of lots of mild cases. Maybe I wasn’t looking in the right spot. I just took the first google search hit that came up. 

9 hours ago, Paul852 said:

What are the numbers of hospitalizations in regards to vaccinated vs. unvaccinated? Are those statistics out there?

They occasionally put them out there but to be honest they don't put a lot of stats out there about who's being hospitalised. Some scientists think we could be looking at 1,000-2,000 admissions per day by mid August. That's in line with the high numbers in January yet we've had 66% of the population vaccinated. Doesn't add up. We are going to end up inanother lock down in the next 2-3 months I know it. 

15 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They occasionally put them out there but to be honest they don't put a lot of stats out there about who's being hospitalised. Some scientists think we could be looking at 1,000-2,000 admissions per day by mid August. That's in line with the high numbers in January yet we've had 66% of the population vaccinated. Doesn't add up. We are going to end up inanother lock down in the next 2-3 months I know it. 

So that means some don't, some people think the earth is flat. Most hospitalized   and dead are the unvaccinated and no reason to think it won't remain that way. 34% is alot of targets for the virus

31 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

So that means some don't, some people think the earth is flat. Most hospitalized   and dead are the unvaccinated and no reason to think it won't remain that way. 34% is alot of targets for the virus

Well the guy who has forecast this also was behind the first lock down in the UK and was advising the government how bad things were going to be. So he does have some weight there. 

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Well the guy who has forecast this also was behind the first lock down in the UK and was advising the government how bad things were going to be. So he does have some weight there. 

Big difference between then and now

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They occasionally put them out there but to be honest they don't put a lot of stats out there about who's being hospitalised. Some scientists think we could be looking at 1,000-2,000 admissions per day by mid August. That's in line with the high numbers in January yet we've had 66% of the population vaccinated. Doesn't add up. We are going to end up inanother lock down in the next 2-3 months I know it. 

The numbers they are forecasting are just based on statistics. The wild card in this is always human behavior, but we all know how that’s worked out so far.

7 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The numbers they are forecasting are just based on statistics. The wild card in this is always human behavior, but we all know how that’s worked out so far.

And that's the worry. It's freedom day today in the UK. That means lots more mixing. And as of this weekend the night clubs etc reopen so lots of young people mixing and they are the ones who haven't yet been double vaccinated. 

10 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They occasionally put them out there but to be honest they don't put a lot of stats out there about who's being hospitalised. Some scientists think we could be looking at 1,000-2,000 admissions per day by mid August. That's in line with the high numbers in January yet we've had 66% of the population vaccinated. Doesn't add up. We are going to end up inanother lock down in the next 2-3 months I know it. 

Look at the curves. Your cases are way high but your hospitalizations and deaths are way low. Same thing so far in Israel. The delta variant is very contagious and people get sick but only mildly so if they’ve been vaccinated. You’ll be fine. Enjoy opening up and not needed a mask. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And that's the worry. It's freedom day today in the UK. That means lots more mixing. And as of this weekend the night clubs etc reopen so lots of young people mixing and they are the ones who haven't yet been double vaccinated. 

Oh well, that is their problem, live your life and don't concern yourself with ignorant fools

Delta will likely force the hand of some Republican governors. They will have no choice if their hospitals are being overrun again. Naturally, the fox news loving idiots residing in those states will see it as another cuck capitulating to the dems.

6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Look at the curves. Your cases are way high but your hospitalizations and deaths are way low. Same thing so far in Israel. The delta variant is very contagious and people get sick but only mildly so if they’ve been vaccinated. You’ll be fine. Enjoy opening up and not needed a mask. 

Today we took the girls out to a soft play place and then for some lunch. It was so nice not having to wear a mask. 

44 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Delta will likely force the hand of some Republican governors. They will have no choice if their hospitals are being overrun again. Naturally, the fox news loving idiots residing in those states will see it as another cuck capitulating to the dems.

I do not like that they're showing that on a log scale. It makes it seem very misleading, even though there is a legitimate underlying issue here. 

What does this look like in PA? One that seems to be holding up is that fatal cases of COVID are very rare among vaccinated even with the delta variant.

6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Look at the curves. Your cases are way high but your hospitalizations and deaths are way low. Same thing so far in Israel. The delta variant is very contagious and people get sick but only mildly so if they’ve been vaccinated. You’ll be fine. Enjoy opening up and not needed a mask. 

Ok, fine…

 

3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I do not like that they're showing that on a log scale. It makes it seem very misleading, even though there is a legitimate underlying issue here. 

What does this look like in PA? One that seems to be holding up is that fatal cases of COVID are very rare among vaccinated even with the delta variant.

PA is likely faring far better due to a much stronger vaccination rate.

Even with delta, death is indeed extremely rare among the vaccinated, but that's not his point. The tweet is a reminder that regardless of whether you personally are vaccinated or not, the poor decisions of your neighbors (in states with lagging vax rates) are likely to affect you in one way or another due to delta's broader reach. If you burned your masks thinking you'd never need them again, you might be mistaken if you live in some of these places.

Went shopping at the Acme yesterday with the wife. Probably 1/4 of the people were wearing masks, like the wife and I. We are both vaccinated, but I don't trust people.

 

 

Someone shared this on a facebook group: https://virological.org/t/viral-infection-and-transmission-in-a-large-well-traced-outbreak-caused-by-the-delta-sars-cov-2-variant/724

the bottom line: The viral loads in the Delta infections were ~1000 times higher than those in the earlier 19A/19B strain infections on the day when viruses were firstly detected

Huh, seems like Israel doesn't think too highly of the experimental vaccines. 

Not many people think it be like that, but it do.

 

Statistics show the stark risks of not getting vaccinated against COVID-19

COVID-19 has become a "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/statistics-show-risks-vaccinated-covid-19/story?id=78845627

I do not understand these people.

Then again, look above at what nimrod takes away from the article about Israel.

15 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Went shopping at the Acme yesterday with the wife. Probably 1/4 of the people were wearing masks, like the wife and I. We are both vaccinated, but I don't trust people.

 

 

the wife & i did the same at le target yesterday. both vaccinated but i'll take the tiny bit of protection a mask provides to the wearer.  anti-vax idiots & covid denying trumpers cannot be trusted...because they're stupid. 

9 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Not many people think it be like that, but it do.

 

90% of adults in the UK are vaccinated. considering some have Astra-Zeneca, which seems to activate antibodies at a much lower rate than Pfizer for example, and that 47% still shows vaccines being effective (albeit less so than the original strain)  .... vaccines are still working better than not by a very wide margin.

and this doesn't get into death rates. 99% of deaths in the US are among the unvaccinated, despite other western nations passing us in vaccinations due to morons like yourself not getting the jab. 

so as always, you're still wrong either way. impressive.

Fun fact not mentioned in that UK article: Hanson concert goers make up the other 53% of covid cases.

I guess even the goat Tucker couldn't stop it.