July 16, 20215 yr The news tonight still daunting. My county has a high vaccination rate. Their website I haven’t checked but they pretty much shut down the weekly dashboard stuff. I was in a medical facility today and have absolutely no issue wearing a mask. Thankfully I did not have to wear it while in the machine. I scored another see ya in 6 months on the left breast. It is a benign finding. It could be worse. I absolutely hate going to a dr and hate all these appointments and now I have another issue. Trying not to worry about COVID on top of all this. It’s nerve wrecking. I will survive this virus. I hope. But who knows? Traveling next month to Syracuse and Oswego NY. I’ll cancel if this ish keeps going and I don’t feel safe.
July 17, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, DiPros said: The news tonight still daunting. My county has a high vaccination rate. Their website I haven’t checked but they pretty much shut down the weekly dashboard stuff. I was in a medical facility today and have absolutely no issue wearing a mask. Thankfully I did not have to wear it while in the machine. I scored another see ya in 6 months on the left breast. It is a benign finding. It could be worse. I absolutely hate going to a dr and hate all these appointments and now I have another issue. Trying not to worry about COVID on top of all this. It’s nerve wrecking. I will survive this virus. I hope. But who knows? Traveling next month to Syracuse and Oswego NY. I’ll cancel if this ish keeps going and I don’t feel safe. Don't worry most all the deaths are the unvaccinated. Everything will be fine, and If I say that you know it will be, just don't go to florida, or Arkansas or other places in stupidland
July 17, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, Kz! said: Lmfao hate to see it! Seriously, are you cheering for the virus? Anyway, this pretty much coincides with Israel saying the Pfizer vaccine isn't nearly effective against Delta and it looks like the majority of doses were Pfizer in Cyprus. Side note, Eisen also got the Pfizer vaccine. 95% efficacy for any vaccine was always an insane number and may have made expectations too high. Those vaccines (mRNA) were tested well before more variants were around.
July 17, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Seriously, are you cheering for the virus? Anyway, this pretty much coincides with Israel saying the Pfizer vaccine isn't nearly effective against Delta and it looks like the majority of doses were Pfizer in Cyprus. Side note, Eisen also got the Pfizer vaccine. 95% efficacy for any vaccine was always an insane number and may have made expectations too high. Those vaccines (mRNA) were tested well before more variants were around. The info out of Israel was an outlier and anyway the bottom line is keeping people out of the hospital, the vaccines do that for the most part
July 17, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: The info out of Israel was an outlier and anyway the bottom line is keeping people out of the hospital, the vaccines do that for the most part Completely agree. As long as those dying remain being the unvaccinated then the vaccines are the way to go. Point being that people will still catch COVID despite the vaccines. This shouldn't shut countries down again.
July 17, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Completely agree. As long as those dying remain being the unvaccinated then the vaccines are the way to go. Point being that people will still catch COVID despite the vaccines. This shouldn't shut countries down again. Also this. I will go about my life as Trump loses voters https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/can-vaccinated-people-get-long-covid-doctors-say-risk-very-n1273970
July 17, 20215 yr On 7/14/2021 at 6:50 PM, EaglesRocker97 said: I mean, I think the logic of what he's saying is basically true: If a variant breaks through, natural selection will allow that variant to become more widespread and further mutate into something that is increasingly virulent. However, the implied conclusion that "these vaccines are doing more harm than good" is fundamentally moronic. If you listen to what this guy says he never says "the vaccines are doing more harm than good". What he says is "we don't know exactly how this will play out" and "we need to diligently pay attention and monitor the situation". If you listen to his podcasts you'll discover he ends up defaulting to "take the vaccine" when any individual asks for his advice, i.e. he doesn't advocate not taking the vaccine. Of course one would never know that by the sound bytes pushed up in here. Edit: I'm talking about Bret W here. Tucker is an idiot.
July 17, 20215 yr 26 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: If you listen to what this guy says he never says "the vaccines are doing more harm than good". What he says is "we don't know exactly how this will play out" and "we need to diligently pay attention and monitor the situation". If you listen to his podcasts you'll discover he ends up defaulting to "take the vaccine" when any individual asks for his advice, i.e. he doesn't advocate not taking the vaccine. Of course one would never know that by the sound bytes pushed up in here. Stop it. You know what Tucker is pushing. The takeaway for the anti-vaxxers is "The vaccine could be doing more harm than good". Don't blame "sound bytes pushed in here". This type of nonsense pushes anti-vaxxers even further in the other direction and is exactly why were finding ourselves in the situation we're currently in.
July 17, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Stop it. You know what Tucker is pushing. The takeaway for the anti-vaxxers is "The vaccine could be doing more harm than good". Don't blame "sound bytes pushed in here". This type of nonsense pushes anti-vaxxers even further in the other direction and is exactly why were finding ourselves in the situation we're currently in. I'm not talking about Tucker. I'm talking about Weinstein. Tucker is an idiot.
July 17, 20215 yr I keep being surprised by the number of my Facebook friends who are anti-vaxers it’s depressing
July 17, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: I'm not talking about Tucker. I'm talking about Weinstein. Tucker is an idiot. Yeah, I'm sure he's very respected. In this instance, he was a pawn.
July 17, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, I'm sure he's very respected. In this instance, he was a pawn. Yeah, Tucker used him, agreed.
July 17, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: If you listen to what this guy says he never says "the vaccines are doing more harm than good". What he says is "we don't know exactly how this will play out" and "we need to diligently pay attention and monitor the situation". If you listen to his podcasts you'll discover he ends up defaulting to "take the vaccine" when any individual asks for his advice, i.e. he doesn't advocate not taking the vaccine. Of course one would never know that by the sound bytes pushed up in here. wat? Bret Weinstein defaults to "take the vaccine"? Have you paid any attention to him? The same Bret Weinstein that implies the cdc could be in pockets of big pharma? All the guy does is claim how well ivermectin works, how much "the medical establishment" (ooh scary) is trying to suppress that, and how potentially unsafe the vaccines are (again being kept quiet by the establishment.)
July 17, 20215 yr 59 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, I'm sure he's very respected. In this instance, he was a pawn. He's not a pawn, he knows exactly what he's doing. https://quillette.com/2021/07/06/looking-for-covid-19-miracle-drugs-we-already-have-them-theyre-called-vaccines/
July 17, 20215 yr So with Israel making the claim that Pfizer is less effective against Delta, is there any news from Pfizer about the Delta targeted booster?
July 17, 20215 yr 38 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: So with Israel making the claim that Pfizer is less effective against Delta, is there any news from Pfizer about the Delta targeted booster? Not yet, their current application with the FDA is for a third dose of the existing vaccine. Their trial of the candidate targeting the delta variant doesn't kick off until next month. Depending on how long that trial runs, they may not be able to apply for an EUA for that until sometime in the Nov-Jan timeframe possibly.
July 17, 20215 yr 18 hours ago, Paul852 said: Seriously, are you cheering for the virus? I am. Consequences. Nothing quite as ironic as the most evolved species ever to reside on the planet is wiped out with an "asteroid" of its own making.
July 17, 20215 yr 42 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I am. Consequences. Nothing quite as ironic as the most evolved species ever to reside on the planet is wiped out with an "asteroid" of its own making. Wait I though the right wing talking point was the virus hardly kills. I think when forced vaccination comes and it will, the vaccinated get to inject the un vaxxed and with a large needle
July 17, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Wait I though the right wing talking point was the virus hardly kills. I think when forced vaccination comes and it will, the vaccinated get to inject the un vaxxed and with a large needle 18 gauge or Lower And I don't think a forced vaccination will ever happen. Too much govt control and I am vaccinated saying that.
July 17, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: 18 gauge or Lower And I don't think a forced vaccination will ever happen. Too much govt control and I am vaccinated saying that. Forced by schools, workplaces, it will be made that unless you are vaccinated you really can't live your life. At least that is the way it should be.
July 17, 20215 yr 46 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Forced by schools, workplaces, it will be made that unless you are vaccinated you really can't live your life. At least that is the way it should be. Schools? This isn't a kid killer. Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia. In 2019, more than 2,000 American kids and teenagers died in car crashes; each year, according to some estimates, about a thousand die from drowning. Feel like better odds to get negative side effects More than 1,200 reports of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the outer lining of the heart) have been reported after vaccination with the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines. Of these, 484 cases were reported in people under age 30. On June 23, 2021, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) said available data "suggest likely association of myocarditis with mRNA vaccination in adolescents and young adults." Even with the increased risk, heart inflammation is a rare occurrence. Myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination was most common in males ages 16 to 24. Cases tended to occur within several days after the second mRNA vaccine dose. Most people who developed myocarditis or pericarditis had mild cases and recovered completely after treatment
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