July 31, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: He clearly wakes up and searches Twitter right away to see what fits his narrative Once again he thought he found something that fit his narrative but in reality it was quite the opposite
July 31, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Once again he thought he found something that fit his narrative but in reality it was quite the opposite He doesn't like reading, I believe. It would explain why he posts things that
July 31, 20215 yr Guest on Real Time had the best idea yet. Stop offering $100 to the cult members to get vaccinated. Make the offer to their leader. Tell Trump he gets $100 for every person who gets vaccinated and tells the nurse that Trump convinced him/her. Vaccination rates will skyrocket in a week. Trump has zero principles and his people have no brains. Buy him and he will convince them.
July 31, 20215 yr So I spent some time looking at ivermectin and then also BretW's take. Ivermectin - Plenty of stuff out there and smaller scale RCTs but no conclusions given the data to date. Those that suggest they can conclude something (like BretW) do so based on meta analysis. There are some larger trials ongoing right now including one at Oxford University in England so hopefully those can shed some light. In any case, the smaller studies plus the operational data that does exists does seem to indicate that ivermectin may very well be a tool in COVID treatment but again there is no substantial evidence one way or the other. BretW on ivermectin - He has definitely been way too quick and aggressive here. Just plain sloppy. The positive part is his push to continue with impartial review of alternate medications such as ivermectin and he's no doubt correct in asserting that those aren't always getting a proper review given today's context. The big negative is a combination of his own personal conclusions based solely on the meta analysis approach plus his very bad decision to discuss these items on Tucker's show which was absolutely reckless given today's climate. He's heading down a bad path here even if he turns out to be right longer term. BretW on vaccines - Bret is overwhelmingly positive to vaccines describing them as "a medical miracle". He also describes mRNA as an incredibly effective and powerful approach with super long-term general potential and describes the current mRNA COVID vaccines as "effective" and "remarkable". He's no anti vaxxer generally but rather a historical vaxxer. On the other hand, he is cautious toward current use of mRNA vaccines from a longer term safety perspective given how new they are and he points to several things that mRNAs don't do as intended. One example is that the vaccines don't stay at the injection site as they should by design. He gives several other examples of the vaccines not behaving as designed. The other thing Bret has talked about is the stuff in the CNN article that Rocker posted regarding how variants are affected by vaccination rates. Note: Bret was also one of the ones out there talking possible Wuhan Lab leak back when it was considered right wing conspiracy type thinking.
July 31, 20215 yr 51 minutes ago, Paul852 said: This has convinced me of only one thing. DrPhilly is Bret. Bret is DrPhilly. No doubt he knows a lot more than me but I don't share any of his views on the subjects of COVID vaccines or ivermectin in any case
July 31, 20215 yr 5 hours ago, sameaglesfan said: Points one and two are good ones. I am not convinced of point three. The best preventative(s) in order are to wash your hands, keep your hands out of your face, and get the vaccine. Mask - meh. The virus is primarily transmitted through aerosols. The likelihood of picking up a COVID infection from a contaminated surface is virtually zero. Masks are, by far, the most effective way to protect yourself and those around you.
July 31, 20215 yr Right, so Bret's not anti-vax, he just refuses to get vaccinated during the worst pandemic in a century. Got it.
July 31, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, Kz! said: I’m sorry, what? Wow. Wow wow wow You realize that shows that the vaccine is "safe”. The statistics show everyone who received a "shot” vs "placebo” and it was 44,000 people they studied. Has nothing to do with whether the people got COVID or died from COVID. Basically states that the vaccine has little to no effect on the potential "side" issues listed.
July 31, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: The virus is primarily transmitted through aerosols. The likelihood of picking up a COVID infection from a contaminated surface is virtually zero. Masks are, by far, the most effective way to protect yourself and those around you. Yep. I stopped washing my hands a long time ago.
July 31, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, vikas83 said: Guest on Real Time had the best idea yet. Stop offering $100 to the cult members to get vaccinated. Make the offer to their leader. Tell Trump he gets $100 for every person who gets vaccinated and tells the nurse that Trump convinced him/her. Vaccination rates will skyrocket in a week. Trump has zero principles and his people have no brains. Buy him and he will convince them. I don’t get it. Hasn’t Trump been relatively open about the fact that he’s fully vaccinated? And unfortunately, it’s obvious at this point that it’s not just "radical” Trump supporters that refuse to get vaccinated. The left needs to begin to admit that a good % of their followers refuse to get vaccinated as well.
July 31, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: The virus is primarily transmitted through aerosols. The likelihood of picking up a COVID infection from a contaminated surface is virtually zero. Masks are, by far, the most effective way to protect yourself and those around you. More than a vaccine and washing your hands, then?
July 31, 20215 yr DC Mayor issues mask mandate..but makes sure it didn't ruin her maskless birthday party and photo with Dave Chappelle.
July 31, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said: DC Mayor issues mask mandate..but makes sure it didn't ruin her maskless birthday party and photo with Dave Chappelle. In DC you can smoke crack as mayor and it does not matter
July 31, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: Every time someone in this thread mentions Darwinism: I am sure the 600k people with a dead relative really care about those numbers
July 31, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Ace Nova said: I don’t get it. Hasn’t Trump been relatively open about the fact that he’s fully vaccinated? And unfortunately, it’s obvious at this point that it’s not just "radical” Trump supporters that refuse to get vaccinated. The left needs to begin to admit that a good % of their followers refuse to get vaccinated as well.
July 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Exactly my point. Unless you believe that 35% of black adults are Trump supporters. Or that everyone on that list (other than Republicans) are all Trump supporters.
July 31, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: Exactly my point. Unless you believe that 35% of black adults are Trump supporters. Or that everyone on that list (other than Republicans) are all Trump supporters. I don’t believe in absolutes, but there’s certainly more Trump supporters who are against getting the vaccine than the folks on the left. But, no doubt there’s also a lot of trepidation among the black community to getting the vaccine.
July 31, 20215 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: I don’t believe in absolutes, but there’s certainly more Trump supporters who are against the vaccine than folks on the left. But, yeah, there’s a lot of trepidation among the black community to get the vaccine. Right and that's the point. It's obviously been politicized (which is sad) but we need to stop assuming that every "anti-vaxxer" is some Q-Anon type, hard right type. Because I'm guessing if everyone else in those groups (other than hard right Republicans) got vaccinated, we could get close to the 70%+ levels needed to put this thing to rest. Just a guess.
July 31, 20215 yr 6 hours ago, sameaglesfan said: More than a vaccine and washing your hands, then? No, get vaccinated above all else, but in terms of daily hygiene, wearing a mask is the single most important thing you can do. Keep washing your hands, but as it specifically pertains to COVID, hand-washing isn't going do nearly as much as originally thought. It's an airborne virus.
July 31, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: No, get vaccinated above all else, but in terms of daily hygiene, wearing a mask is the single most important hung yoy can do. Keep washing your hands, but as it specifically pertains to COVID, hand-washing isn't going do nearly as much as originally thought. It's an airborne virus. Actually distancing is even more important but I’m sure you just missed that.
July 31, 20215 yr 14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Actually distancing is even more important but I’m sure you just missed that. I didn't really consider it ro fall under personal hygiene, but distacing should always be practiced whenever possible.
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