August 31, 20215 yr Republicans: Biden is going to make us all get vaxxed!!!!!! He's literally Hitler!!!! Also Republicans: Its totally Biden's fault unvaccinated people are spreading covid and dying!!!!
August 31, 20215 yr https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-anti-vaxx-cop-took-ivermectin-dies-of-covid-19-2021-8 A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus
August 31, 20215 yr Just now, Boogyman said: https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-anti-vaxx-cop-took-ivermectin-dies-of-covid-19-2021-8 How shocking. Dewormer didn't save his life?
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: Hahahaha. Classic. Biden is dreadfully failing at the one thing that he promised he could deliver in the election (not to mention a bunch of other things). I'll enjoy watching you guys try to blame it on Republicans though. Yeah I know, God forbid we blame it on the people literally responsible for spreading a deadly virus to the point where it's overwhelming our healthcare system when they could've easily avoided it by getting vaccinated. We should definitely find someone else to blame instead.
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Never said it was only trumpbots, just that they are the most likely group and by far the largest, which means they easily make up the majority of morons currently refusing vaccination. In any case, it's definitely Biden's fault that those rubes are poisoning themselves with ivermectin instead of listening to their doctors. Biden clearly made them do that. Biden ran on one thing...getting the US through of the virus. He has now been in office for 8 months, more the half the country is vaccinated and the transmission rates are as bad or worse than they were at this time last year. Hospitals are filing up and mask mandates are back....lockdowns are potentially next. You can blame it on whatever you want, but the nation isn't buying it. He isn't delivering what he promised.
August 31, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: Republicans: Biden is going to make us all get vaxxed!!!!!! He's literally Hitler!!!! Also Republicans: Its totally Biden's fault unvaccinated people are spreading covid and dying!!!! These idiots are stupid beyond words. I'll feel bad for making fun of them at some point, but they deserve it for the time being since they're the primary reason we're still in this mess.
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: How shocking. Dewormer didn't save his life? It may have if he had worms. But he had covid, and surprisingly it didn't help at all. Crazy. 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: Biden ran on one thing...getting the US through of the virus. He has now been in office for 8 months, more the half the country is vaccinated and the transmission rates are as bad or worse than they were at this time last year. Hospitals are filing up and mask mandates are back....lockdowns are potentially next. You can blame it on whatever you want, but the nation isn't buying it. He isn't delivering what he promised. Just get vaccinated.
August 31, 20215 yr Just now, The Norseman said: Biden ran on one thing...getting the US through of the virus. He has now been in office for 8 months, more the half the country is vaccinated and the transmission rates are as bad or worse than they were at this time last year. Hospitals are filing up and mask mandates are back....lockdowns are potentially next. You can blame it on whatever you want, but the nation isn't buying it. He isn't delivering what he promised. No? Is this similar to your prediction for what the nation was buying in November of 2020?
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: Just get vaccinated. I did...and I'm still wearing a mask, still not travelling for work and still limited in terms of where I can go and what I can do. My kids will be wearing masks in school all year, assuming they even make it a full year. Is this what America envisioned 8 months into the Biden administration?
August 31, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Biden ran on one thing...getting the US through of the virus. He has now been in office for 8 months, more the half the country is vaccinated and the transmission rates are as bad or worse than they were at this time last year. Hospitals are filing up and mask mandates are back....lockdowns are potentially next. You can blame it on whatever you want, but the nation isn't buying it. He isn't delivering what he promised. Yep, he's failing spectacularly. Not as bad, obviously, as the Afghanistan withdrawal, but there's no question he's proven himself to be incompetent on multiple fronts at the moment.
August 31, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: Yep, he's failing spectacularly. Not as bad, obviously, as the Afghanistan withdrawal, but there's no question he's proven himself to be incompetent on multiple fronts at the moment. give it time
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: I did...and I'm still wearing a mask, still not travelling for work and still limited in terms of where I can go and what I can do. My kids will be wearing masks in school all year, assuming they even make it a full year. Is this what America envisioned 8 months into the Biden administration? That's good that you're making the sensible choices to keep yourself and your family safe. And I didn't envision this at all. Then again, I didn't envision the delta variant being so much more contagious while so many idiots from both sides of the aisle refused to take the only decent lifeline available while drowning.
August 31, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I did...and I'm still wearing a mask, still not travelling for work and still limited in terms of where I can go and what I can do. My kids will be wearing masks in school all year, assuming they even make it a full year. Is this what America envisioned 8 months into the Biden administration? Well a bunch of loony Americans thought he would have been replaced by the previous guy by now.
August 31, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's good that you're making the sensible choices to keep yourself and your family safe. And I didn't envision this at all. Then again, I didn't envision the delta variant being so much more contagious while so many idiots from both sides of the aisle refused to take the only decent lifeline available while drowning. Look, its complicated. But all of you who spent 2020 red faced screaming about how everything that Trump, Pence and Corona Virus task force did last year was horrendous and and utter failure deserve a little of your own medicine. I'm just here to administer it.
August 31, 20215 yr 28 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Is this what America envisioned 8 months into the Biden administration? Joe Biden does not control of the virus. Neither is/was Donald Trump. The virus controls the virus. If people are not going to heed precaution, get vaccinated, do the things they need to do to control spread... Then the politicians can bluster all they want, but it won't do a damn thing.
August 31, 20215 yr 24 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Look, its complicated. But all of you who spent 2020 red faced screaming about how everything that Trump, Pence and Corona Virus task force did last year was horrendous and and utter failure deserve a little of your own medicine. I'm just here to administer it. I feel the same about the last 5 years of "but Hillary" and "but Obama".
August 31, 20215 yr Record day of infections in one of the most vaccinated countries on the planet. Not great.
August 31, 20215 yr 16 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I feel the same about the last 5 years of "but Hillary" and "but Obama". Just so long as you know that you're doing it now. 21 minutes ago, toolg said: Joe Biden does not control of the virus. Neither is/was Donald Trump. The virus controls the virus. If people are not going to heed precaution, get vaccinated, do the things they need to do to control spread... Then the politicians can bluster all they want, but it won't do a damn thing. Interesting. Was that your stance in 2020?
August 31, 20215 yr Just now, The Norseman said: Just so long as you know that you're doing it now. I definitely know I'm doing it. Having fun in the process. You deserve a little of your own medicine and I'm here to administer it.
August 31, 20215 yr 35 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Look, its complicated. But all of you who spent 2020 red faced screaming about how everything that Trump, Pence and Corona Virus task force did last year was horrendous and and utter failure deserve a little of your own medicine. I'm just here to administer it. Yeah, except we gave clear, detailed examples of said failures, such as downplaying the severity of the virus repeatedly, rejecting and politicizing the use of masks, meddling in the CDC messaging, pushing HCQ snake oil on national TV, refusing to practice social distancing, holding super spreader rallies that likely resulted in Herman Cain's death, oh and literally getting infected himself to the point where he had to be airlifted to walter reed mere days after making fun of Biden for wearing a mask. So yeah until Biden has clear and demonstrable failures like those, then you sound like an absolute idiot trying to paint them as anywhere near the same level of incompetence. Bash Biden all you want on A'stan, where it's actually warranted, but there's not much his admin has fumbled with covid so far. Sure that could change in the future, but compared to Trump, he's basically batting 1.000.
August 31, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: Record day of infections in one of the most vaccinated countries on the planet. Not great. What about hospitalizations and deaths? You need those numbers as well or I will call you out on it every single time you post these. Iceland has cases too and they are over 90% vaccinated. ZERO deaths recorded since May.
August 31, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I get that, and acknowledge that it's unlikely ivermectin is doing anything. There's no biological reason why it should (though from what I can verify it's been effective at reducing COVID-19 in a lab; but so has UV light and bleach) and has been shown to reduce , though medicines have had unexpected off-label uses nobody saw coming and become mainstays for conditions they were never intended to treat. My understanding of most of the studies is that they were at best inconclusive and contradictory, which is why actual studies are currently underway. e.g. https://www.principletrial.org/news/ivermectin-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-treatment-for-covid-19-in-oxford2019s-principle-trial The downside risk of this drug being touted is absolutely immense - taken incorrectly or worse taking a version not designed for humans could lead to major complications and even death. So I get why the medical community is pumping the breaks - and it absolutely should. That said, if a doctor is prescribing a dosage that isn't harmful, I don't necessarily see this as a terrible thing as long as it's in a controlled environment. The bigger issue is people taking the veterinary version of ivermectin, which is a HUGE problem obviously. I'm just trying to keep an open mind and be cognizant of the fact that politics can push both ways here. There's no excuse for morons going out and buying animal dewormer and ingesting it. But with the University of Oxford and others studying it, it's also not exactly fair to say the science is settled and it has no effect. Yep, the results have pointed at possible positive results but inconclusive. They haven’t in any way proven that there are no positive effects. Odds are there won’t be any significant positive effects but as you say nothing is settled yet. In the study the NYTimes article linked to (link below) you can see their conclusion (quote below). Nothing settled and they refer to several other studies underway including Oxford. Seems like a long shot the but the science is not settled just yet. https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full Quote Based on the current very low‐ to low‐certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID‐19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19 outside of well‐designed randomized trials. @JohnSnowsHair I've edited this post with the update from the actual article in question.
August 31, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, DiPros said: What about hospitalizations and deaths? You need those numbers as well or I will call you out on it every single time you post these. Iceland has cases too and they are over 90% vaccinated. ZERO deaths recorded since May. You need to add a "wow, wow, wow" after posting something like that. It helps him understand.
August 31, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You need to add a "wow, wow, wow" after posting something like that. It helps him understand. Tbh there should be a lot less of those from Kz now that Alex Berenson is banned from twitter.
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