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33 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

uhh....call your doctor...because your doctor is a medical professional.  

i know...mind blowing stuff. 

I really don't understand people who think reading things on the internet qualifies them to second guess and overrule medical professionals. 

If I get sick, I see my doctor. He prescribes treatment, and I take it. If I don't trust him to treat me, then...I find a new doctor. 

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8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I really don't understand people who think reading things on the internet qualifies them to second guess and overrule medical professionals. 

If I get sick, I see my doctor. He prescribes treatment, and I take it. If I don't trust him to treat me, then...I find a new doctor. 

WebMD my man.  You spend five minutes on that site and you’re smarter than the doctors who went to school for 8 years.

21 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

What good will they do anyway when you have folks like the boogyman ignoring them?  I mean the flu was pretty much eradicated last year - who knows how many people have been single-handedly infected by him and his family's careless decisions?  :nonono:

It's all good. I went to the vet, got some Amitraz and I was back on my feet in two days.

14 hours ago, lynched1 said:

At least he "has been" in the time he's been here.

You've got time yet. Good luck.

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16 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I really don't understand people who think reading things on the internet qualifies them to second guess and overrule medical professionals. 

If I get sick, I see my doctor. He prescribes treatment, and I take it. If I don't trust him to treat me, then...I find a new doctor. 

Well now you just sound ridiculous.

24 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I really don't understand people who think reading things on the internet qualifies them to second guess and overrule medical professionals. 

If I get sick, I see my doctor. He prescribes treatment, and I take it. If I don't trust him to treat me, then...I find a new doctor. 

I'm a huge fan of doctors, but we don't have to pretend they're infallible. Not a lot of people have heard of this, but look up the opioid crisis. It happened because giant pharmaceutical companies made highly addictive pain pills and then doctors started prescribing them like they were tictacs. 

Because I have the foresight to predict ishlibs' response to this post, let me again say that, no, I don't think I know more about medicine than my doctor. Also, no, I don't think doctors are actively trying to kill people. Also, yes, they may be part of a large global conspiracy funded by Soros to pave the way for a permanently entrenched reptilian new world order government. 

1 hour ago, Lloyd said:

People already hit you on this subject yesterday. If we're going to repeat that, I'll just repeat my initial post to you...why is it easier for you to believe in a vast government conspiracy to extend a costly and deadly pandemic than to just believe that you're wrong? Our oligarchs in various industries were happily making money pre-pandemic...your belief is, they're continuing the pandemic and its economic instability to, uh, make more money? 

Nobody actually provided a response to what is happened in Uttar Pradesh India.  What happens is that when you make a point that can't be refuted, the progressive participants in the thread resort to personal attacks and ridicule or attacks on the source of the information.  I mean we are on the EMB, so decorum is correctly disregarded by the members here given the forum.

But again, in Uttar Pradesh India, they beat back an outbreak in less than a month via widespread distribution of Ivermectin.  Nobody here has been able to dispute the veracity of this statement.

If you have facts which dispute the veracity of this, please share.  If not and this is true, you would have to agree that something is amiss.

3 minutes ago, Procus said:

Nobody actually provided a response to what is happened in Uttar Pradesh India.  What happens is that when you make a point that can't be refuted, the progressive participants in the thread resort to personal attacks and ridicule or attacks on the source of the information.  I mean we are on the EMB, so decorum is correctly disregarded by the members here given the forum.

But again, in Uttar Pradesh India, they beat back an outbreak in less than a month via widespread distribution of Ivermectin.  Nobody here has been able to dispute the veracity of this statement.

If you have facts which dispute the veracity of this, please share.  If not and this is true, you would have to agree that something is amiss.

It's insane how mentioning Uttar Pradesh literally shuts down all conversation. Pretty sure, because there's been basically a complete media blackout of the state's success, ishlibs just literally have no idea how to respond to the data at all without some guidance from their favorite outlets. 

Honestly, I find ishlibs' reaction to ivermectin's success completely baffling. It's like they don't want a cheap, safe alternative to vaccines or something. The coordinated effort to repeat the "horse paste" joke again and again, too, is very odd. 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/covid-caseload-in-31-up-districts-falls-to-zero/articleshow/86741028.cms

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/40-of-up-now-covid-free-no-active-caseload-in-31-districts

Nearly 40 per cent of Uttar Pradesh is now Covid-19 free and the state government has declared that out of the total 75 districts, the active caseload in 31 of them has come down to zero.

The total active caseload in the entire state was also recorded at a further low of just 159 active cases as of Sunday.

About 21 districts of the state are now left with a single active case each.

The districts with zero active Covid cases include Amethi, Amroha, Baghpat, Ballia, Balrampur, Etah, Farrukhabad, Fatehpur, Ghazipur, Gonda, Hamirpur, Hapur, Hardoi, Hathras, Jalaun, Kanpur Dehat, Kanpur, Kasganj, Lakhimpur Kheri, Lalitpur, Mahoba, Mainpuri, Mau, Moradabad, Muzaffarnagar, Rampur, Sant Kabir Nagar, Shravasti, Varanasi, Sitapur and Unnao.

In the past 24 hours, the state reported 13 fresh Covid cases with seven patients recovering from the disease.

The overall positivity rate in Uttar Pradesh now stands at 2.16 per cent, while the recovery rate is at 98.8 per cent.

"The fresh cases have declined by more than 38,000 from its peak which was 38,055 on April 24. The state has also been able to restrict the daily Covid case-count below 50 for over 50 days in a row," said an official release.

The state is also close to administering 11 crore Covid-19 vaccine doses, leading the country's inoculation drive against the virus.

 

 

 

 

The same morons who praised DeSantis in April for "beating" covid are again falling into the same trap, but this time with some province in India. This is why it's a cult. They are too stupid to realize they are even in one in the first place.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The same morons who praised DeSantis in April for "beating" covid are again falling into the same trap, but this time with some province in India. This is why it's a cult. They are too stupid to realize they are even in one in the first place.

@Procus, see there's not even an attempt to offer some counter-explanation.

It's important to note that Uttar Pradesh didn't just ride the wave down from a peak in infections, infections completely plummeted and all but disappeared. Not just in some 'province in India' but in its most populous state at the exact same time they began pre-emptively prescribing ivermectin to people with likely exposures to Covid. Also important to note that other Indian states that didn't prescribe the drug kept reporting high daily cases and followed a much more familiar downward trajectory of infections from their peak whereas Uttar Pradesh's absolutely plummeted. 

Great site for tracking: https://www.covid19india.org/

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The same morons who praised DeSantis in April for "beating" covid are again falling into the same trap, but this time with some province in India. This is why it's a cult. They are too stupid to realize they are even in one in the first place.

May be an image of text that says 'high I know everything There's more to this than I thought Trust me. It's complicated Confidence I'm never going to understand this It's starting to make sense Huh? Low low Knowledge in Field high'

Dunning-Kruger all up in this biz-nitch.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

10,91,90,511 

Fascinating

These medicine kits included doxy, zinc, vitamin D also along with the anti parasite drug.  Which again is used in some parts of the world but not much in the US.  Are we sure it's this exact combination?  

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

May be an image of text that says 'high I know everything There's more to this than I thought Trust me. It's complicated Confidence I'm never going to understand this It's starting to make sense Huh? Low low Knowledge in Field high'

Dunning-Kruger all up in this biz-nitch.

@Procus - another non-attempt. It's actually fascinating to watch the two dudes who will go back and fourth for hours in this thread on a daily basis suddenly get too busy to provide an actual theory. Just one. 

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Fascinating

:lol: They do numbers weird as ish over there. 

https://scroll.in/article/1006641/after-the-covid-19-crisis-how-has-uttar-pradeshs-health-strategy-changed

About 10.3 crore doses of Covid-19 vaccines have been administered in Uttar Pradesh. Seroprevalence studies seem to suggest that almost 80% of your state’s population above 18 years of age is already carrying antibodies. So, is that giving you comfort and if not, what are your plans to deal with the pandemic?
As you said, almost 80% of the population is showing antibodies and about 57.3% of the targeted population has been given the first vaccination and about 14%-15% the second. The ICMR’s finding is that even if you get one dose, your immunity goes up to 96.6%. People now know that they are quite immune because the antibodies are well-developed but even then we are insisting that everybody has to have the second dose.

We are calling them up from our call centre – we have a special day fixed for this, Saturday – and asking them to come in for their second shot because that will give them better immunity from Covid-19 for a longer time. Just yesterday we did about, I think, 36 lakh 88 thousand doses. And we have done almost 3 crore 25 lakhs in one month. So our target is to try and get this entire population vaccinated by December 2021 if we get enough vaccines. And as you know, ICMR is also now finalising Zydus Cadila vaccine for 12-18 year-olds.

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

:lol: They do numbers weird as ish over there. 

Enough with the casual racism

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/national/covid-19-vaccination-india-vaccinated-over-23-lakh-people-on-october-3/article36816957.ece

Uttar Pradesh is leading the overall vaccination drive having administered 10,91,90,511 total doses of the vaccine so far

Valiant effort, hunt. I'll give you credit for that. But it doesn't seem to be the explanation:

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Only 9.9% fully vaxxed. Ouch. 

Just now, Kz! said:

 

 

Only 9.9% fully vaxxed. Ouch. 

false.

 

 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

https://scroll.in/article/1006641/after-the-covid-19-crisis-how-has-uttar-pradeshs-health-strategy-changed

About 10.3 crore doses of Covid-19 vaccines have been administered in Uttar Pradesh. Seroprevalence studies seem to suggest that almost 80% of your state’s population above 18 years of age is already carrying antibodies. So, is that giving you comfort and if not, what are your plans to deal with the pandemic?
As you said, almost 80% of the population is showing antibodies and about 57.3% of the targeted population has been given the first vaccination and about 14%-15% the second. The ICMR’s finding is that even if you get one dose, your immunity goes up to 96.6%. People now know that they are quite immune because the antibodies are well-developed but even then we are insisting that everybody has to have the second dose.

We are calling them up from our call centre – we have a special day fixed for this, Saturday – and asking them to come in for their second shot because that will give them better immunity from Covid-19 for a longer time. Just yesterday we did about, I think, 36 lakh 88 thousand doses. And we have done almost 3 crore 25 lakhs in one month. So our target is to try and get this entire population vaccinated by December 2021 if we get enough vaccines. And as you know, ICMR is also now finalising Zydus Cadila vaccine for 12-18 year-olds.

 

Right, because covid never burns out once enough vulnerable hosts have been infected. It must go up forever.

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

https://scroll.in/article/1006641/after-the-covid-19-crisis-how-has-uttar-pradeshs-health-strategy-changed

About 10.3 crore doses of Covid-19 vaccines have been administered in Uttar Pradesh. Seroprevalence studies seem to suggest that almost 80% of your state’s population above 18 years of age is already carrying antibodies. So, is that giving you comfort and if not, what are your plans to deal with the pandemic?
As you said, almost 80% of the population is showing antibodies and about 57.3% of the targeted population has been given the first vaccination and about 14%-15% the second. The ICMR’s finding is that even if you get one dose, your immunity goes up to 96.6%. People now know that they are quite immune because the antibodies are well-developed but even then we are insisting that everybody has to have the second dose.

We are calling them up from our call centre – we have a special day fixed for this, Saturday – and asking them to come in for their second shot because that will give them better immunity from Covid-19 for a longer time. Just yesterday we did about, I think, 36 lakh 88 thousand doses. And we have done almost 3 crore 25 lakhs in one month. So our target is to try and get this entire population vaccinated by December 2021 if we get enough vaccines. And as you know, ICMR is also now finalising Zydus Cadila vaccine for 12-18 year-olds.

Now you're going to start arguing that herd immunity is achievable even if only 9.9% of the population is fully vaxxed? You sure that's an argument you want to make? Fauci would not approve. But, again:

 

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Now you're going to start arguing that herd immunity is achievable even if only 9.9% of the population is fully vaxxed

 

still false.

 

almost 80% of the population is showing antibodies and about 57.3% of the targeted population has been given the first vaccination  

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